Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Possible/easy to just meet an OW???

182 replies

IsabellaMoltisantixx · 25/09/2018 11:54

This is gonna sound a really stupid question but how easy is it for guy I meet ow when working away????

Long story short (see other post) dp is working away for 2 nights . Before he went he was acting a bit distant, not as lovey dovey it reassuring (I always get paranoid when he works away) but I did check his phone (very quickly) saw nothing on there

Now he's gone he hasn't contacted much at all but has been online LOADS on WhatsApp so my question is how would he have just got a woman's number and from the place where he's at??? Bear in mind he's never been to this place before, it's the first time he's had to go for work so not like he knows anyone there?

Would it just be easy for a guy to say go on tinder or POF or whatever n start chatting to a girl from that location n meet her? Surely it needs planning n like I said I checked phone beforehand n didn't see anything there

Just wondering if anyone has met a guy on the first day or two of talking to them. I've NEVER EVER used dating apps so I dunno how it works I'm really against them n hate the idea

OP posts:
subspace · 27/09/2018 11:47

"He didn't cheat"

No, he gave you an sti by sleeping with you knowing he had contracted one while you were split up.

Quote:

"Would you forgive a guy who gave you an std when you were sleeping with ex and they made it clear they were just 'shagging' you, how would you react if you got an STD from them?"

"Unfortunately, they did know [about the STI] beforehand.. I recently found other texts of the ow he was sleeping with and they were discussing it in there about her saying she'd got an std and who was he going around with cos she wasn't!!!...
I looked at the dates and it was before I found out! I'm livid and so upset that's why I had to ask in here"

"I know it's my fault for sleeping with him unprotected etc but I have a lot of feelings for him"

Nobody needs to make up or exaggerate anything you're saying, because the truth is just... Confused

You're having unprotected sex with him in the hope that you'll get pregnant again, while at the same time being suspicious that he's having an affair. And he doesn't respect your religious wishes for your children. And he wants to watch you being raped. Capital.

Kennycalmit · 27/09/2018 12:13

Oh for goodness sake OP.

You’re as bad as he is. You’re both ruining your daughters lives not just him.

Seriously, I actually hope you’re a troll because if not then it saddens me that your girls have parents like you both

sugarnotsweetener · 27/09/2018 12:24

Again I am 35 so not a lot older than you, you’re saying that your partner did these things over 15 years like it makes it not as bad, you’re saying cheating is the worst he can do in your book?! I despair.
Ive been married for 8 years, we’ve been together for 15 and my husband has never ever done any of these things.
You really must be a troll, you cannot be a real person if you’re saying that cheating is the worst he can do when you’re both damaging your children’s lives like this.
It’s horrid reading back the past things he’s done and you dusting over it with “well it wasn’t all at once” like that makes it better. I agree with the PP who said you’re just as bad as he is.

IsabellaMoltisantixx · 27/09/2018 13:12

Well if that's the case how come so many women fall for him then? They can't all be "daft" or "emotionally unstable" ?!?! The one he was seeing when we were broken up was a regional manager and the other a EYFS coordinator.
One kept contacting him because she wanted him back!! So is he just like this with me then? I don't get it! He's never physically hit me
I'm not saying he's not bad, the std scenario was my fault as well as his. His good points overtake his bad ones and that's why it's so hard to leave him.

OP posts:
SoyDora · 27/09/2018 13:17

How would we know why other women fall for him? No fucking idea to be honest. I don’t know why a lot of people do what they do.
All we know is what you’ve posted on here, and assuming what you say is true then he’s a disgusting arse.
‘He’s never physically hit me’... oh well that’s ok then. A true prince among men.

SoyDora · 27/09/2018 13:18

By the way, did you see him last night?

SoyDora · 27/09/2018 13:19

And why the fuck does someone being a ‘regional manager’ (or what?!) make them a good judge of character?

SoyDora · 27/09/2018 13:19

*of what?

offside · 27/09/2018 13:19

How do you know that there’s ‘all these other women’? Is he telling you?

And men like him prey on the vulnerable, they have an eye for them. And vulnerable women will for for his bullshit easily - you are a prime example.

Notacluewhatthisis · 27/09/2018 13:31

He is a manipulative shit. So women are taken in by the front he puts on. No matter what job they have. There will be loads he hasn't managed to fool.

You, however, know exactly what he is like and still falling for it.

subspace · 27/09/2018 13:43

Where are all these magical women who fall for him? ONE woman has said she wants him, and it's quite possible she's as daft as you. Or maybe he hid his true colors better to her.

Plenty of women enjoy casual sex, one night stabs met on tinder etc. That's not the same as knowing him for donkeys years, being treated the way he treats you and still thinking he's a catch.

subspace · 27/09/2018 13:45

And wasn't the one he was seeing when you broke up cheating on her husband??

IhatetheArchers · 27/09/2018 13:49

Oh for fucks sake, this is getting harder and harder to believe.

What good points?

So he managed to persuade some women to have sex with him, then bigs them up to you.

Yes of course you are responsible for your own sexual health, and of course you can't control who he has sex with while you are on a break, , but he KNEW he had an std and didn't give you the heads up.

He goes away, ignores you, then apparently confuses you with Uber when he wants a lift.

He is abusive to your children, Social Services have advised you not to live with him after an 'incident'.

And you still whine ' but I love him'

LucyMorningStar · 27/09/2018 14:09

Pleased see a fine example of beating one's head against a wall. @IhatetheArchers I am just going to quote you for convenience.

He is abusive to your children, Social Services have advised you not to live with him after an 'incident'

He is abusive to your children, Social Services have advised you not to live with him after an 'incident'

He is abusive to your children, Social Services have advised you not to live with him after an 'incident'

He is abusive to your children, Social Services have advised you not to live with him after an 'incident'

He is abusive to your children, Social Services have advised you not to live with him after an 'incident'

LucyMorningStar · 27/09/2018 14:12

oh and by the way women of all sort of professions can be desperate enough to shack up with him. doesn't mean he's got sun shining out of his ass.

SoyDora · 27/09/2018 14:47

I’m a similar age to you OP. Let me tell you about my relationship (which isn’t perfect, none are).

He has never given me an STD
He has never accused me of sleeping with more men than I told him (in fact he’s never actually asked how many men I slept with)
Social services have never had to be involved. I have never been told not to live with him due to an ‘incident’. There have never been any incidents.
I have never had cause to believe that he may be cheating (and he works away quite a lot).
He has never been physically abusive to me.
He has never told me he would like to arrange for someone to come and rape me. He has never been anything other than respectful in bed.

That is a ‘normal’ relationship.

AvoidingMarking · 27/09/2018 15:41

Your exact words 'sometimes he'll put her in her cot and kind of hold her so she can't move...she does eventually sleep probably through exhaustion'

How is @Tryingforsleepthief2 exaggerating?

And they are right, I've just checked and you've posted a lot of odd things over the last month about infertility and getting frustrated and then about cheating and how often you would see your children. Why would you post them all now, in separate threads if it's happened over 15 years?

Obviously you're concerned about losing time with these children, but would you really want them to see him? Look at what he's doing! Social services would readily intervene if you are already known to him. I hope you have some self respect and get out but I'm sure you picked him up last night and it was lovely for ten minutes but now he is being a dick and ignoring you again just to keep you hanging on

adviceonthepox · 27/09/2018 15:48

Please please leave this man. The holding a baby down till she screams herself to sleep is enough to keep that horrible poor excuse for a man away from your children. Engage with woman's aid and social services to get the help and support you need to leave him.
It's easy to hook up wherever you are. There are many many sites for just that. He would be able to meet someone for sex wherever he is at anytime. The only question is if he's paying for it or not.
Refuse access make him take you to court and do everything social services tell you to with regards to the children. Regardless of if you love him (I really can't understand why you do) your live for your children and their wellbeing must come first!

grannyscobwebs · 27/09/2018 15:58

Difficult to read this thread because it's SO MESSED UP.

But OP seems like a drama llama.

grannyscobwebs · 27/09/2018 16:01

Also, are you a teacher??

I hope to god that you don't teach any of my children because you sound like an absolute mess. 😬😬

Zoflorabore · 27/09/2018 16:13

If you were my dd's teacher I would move school. You can't even set a good example to your own children!
Are you a teacher op?

i just hope your children leave home as soon as they can and hopefully without too much damage. Poor sods.

Allalittlebitshit2019 · 27/09/2018 17:56

Wow just wow. You are co dependent and by being co dependent you are encouraging his behaviour!

I think you could also be addicted to the drama of it all. You minimise his disgusting behaviour and then obsess about him cheating!!

I think you need some serious help and i mean that polity. You talk about fearing separating as he will ask for 50% access. If you have always been the main carer and your concerned by his behaviour around the children etc etc then you dont agree to 50%. You get yourself a solicitor (may receive legal aid) and you take it to court. You must do this from a position of whats best for the children, not because you carnt cope being away from the children!! Its hard for all separated parents but we are all wanting a better life for ourselves and our children, with that comes the ups and the downs.

Allalittlebitshit2019 · 27/09/2018 18:00

O and you say you dont want to be a single parent, well neither does most of the single parents. But its a much better option that the relationship that your in atm. Im a single parent and tbh, im thriving on it, yet again not because i wanted it but because its much better than the horrible and controlling relationship i was in with my children's father. Its not particularly easy not seeing them eow, but you get used to it.

FuckItPassMeTheWine · 27/09/2018 18:58

OP I know you’re getting a bashing on here but the posters are at heart concerned for you and your children. So please understand the spirit it is meant in.

You literally have your whole life ahead of you. What would you say to your daughter who said she was having relationship issues like the ones you’re explaining ? I’m guessing you would tell her to get out fast. Make the right decision, a decision that the future you will thank you for. Only you are in control of these decisions, you have a choice! Be strong and cut him out of your life. It will require mental toughness , you CAN do it!

WellThisIsShit · 27/09/2018 19:45

Isabella, I’m sorry you feel bad.

And I’m sorry you are feeling attacked by this thread.

However your arguing back and all your posts and venting about your deep feelings... it all points to one thing, which you don’t seem able, or willing, to see.

And that is that your thinking, emotions and behaviours about your relationship with this man is highly disordered, unhealthy, and really not ‘normal’.

You are so dependent on this relationship, whatever state it’s in, whatever this man does to you or your children, that you prioritise it and him above all other elements of your life.

And you’re genuinely confused when other people question this as not a fitting attitude for the primary caretaker of vulnerable children.

Everything you do, feel or think is wrapped up in the drama, conflict and emotional yearning of this man.

You need serious work on yourself and your family to quiet this unfulfilled need in yourself that is putting this frantic search for romantic love above everything else in your life.

You need to find a locus of control within yourself. Stop searching for it within this vile and wholly inadequate man.

You need to (re)learn what putting your children’s real needs first looks and feels like.

Because it doesn’t look like this, this stuff that’s happening now. This, this chaotic, frantic, awful mess that’s happening now, is what happens when you are chasing an unhealthy fantasy and believing it will satisfy yours (& by proxy your children’s) deepest needs... when all it is, is a hunt fuelled by desire and guaranteed to end in misery, if you ever let it end, instead of chasing and chasing and chasing the drama and adrenalin.

This is why people don’t want to answer your questions about how to reply to a text, when you ask as if it’s a first text from your lover, rather than the latest in the same old abusive cycle that’s gone on for years.

This is why people aren’t impressed when you say there’s nothing wrong with your partner treating you appallingly and then giving you an std, because ‘you were on a break’. Because no matter how many times you claim you can’t blame him and he’s perfectly innocent, and you take all the guilt for errr, I don’t even know what around that time, I’m afraid we don’t agree, because it’s your attitude that is skewed, not ours.

And finally, this is why posters keep bringing up events you’ve decided are ‘in the past’ or very long ago. Because the STD thing was only a couple of months ago, as was so many of the events you post about. And so we still count them as highly relevant to the present, and see the high number and frequency of these dramatic relationship upheavals and events as a Pattern, not unlucky one-offs that ‘oh I can explain’...

You may find my post hard to read. You may reject it. But all I can do is try and get through to you, as I think you need a chance to change things. For your children, as well as yourself.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.

Swipe left for the next trending thread