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Hubby has had Herpes for past 12 years and I have only just found out now! What should I do??

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CazInLeith · 21/08/2018 18:55

First time post here, the last week has just been a blur.

Hubby and I are in our mid 30s, married just over a year ago, known each other for 6 years, dated for 2 years before getting hitched, just had first baby born on 1st June (10/11 weeks old). Around a week ago I was trying to find a pen to use in hubby’s work bag and came across a stash of suspicious looking pills in a side pocket labelled ‘aciclovir 400mg’, a quick google search and I discover this is a standard retroviral medication for herpes!

Horrid 3hrs of wondering what to do whilst waiting for him to come home. Decide to confront him that same evening. He opens up and admits it straight away. I’d found out about his ‘secret’ - apparently he slept with a random 12 years ago whilst at university and contracted herpes. You can’t get rid of herpes apparently, it’s with you for life, all you can do is manage the symptoms by taking long term medication. And apparently he’s been secretly taking this medication every day for the past 12 years(!)

At the moment, I’ve got him sleeping in the spare bedroom. No chance of any intimacy at the moment.

Where do we go from here?

  1. I’m terrified I might have this too. Goodness knows how many times we’ve had unprotected sex whilst trying to convcieve and since getting pregnant. Getting tested for herpes isn’t simple - I’ve already seen the doctor. Some people are asymptomatic, I may have to wait years to see if I ‘flare up’ into a symptomatic phase, and even then I might not Notice I’m having an ‘active phase’ . For this reason: getting a straight answer to whether you have this horrid little STD isn’t always easy.
  2. To put it simply, the doc says they can’t rule out that I don’t have it, but they also can’t say for sure if I do, because the symptoms aren’t always there as thevitus itsekf can lay dormant for months or even years between active phases or ‘flare-ups’, which if a carrier is suppressing with retro viral medication like hubby, may never even ever happen again. There are also a lot of people who have contracted this virus at some point along the way, don’t know they have it, aren’t taking any retrovirals, and don’t even notice when they have the lesions. All the doc can recommend is avoiding unprotected sex with someone you know has it, i.e. my hubby!
  3. It’s very unlikely that I will have passed it onto my baby during the birth (no visible signs of any lesions on baby, and apparently these normally show up very soon after birth if this is the case. Naturally I am terrified that this may be the case and am feeling hugely guilty already in case this happens.
  4. Cannot talk to ANYONE I know about this, as is hugely embarrassing, no idea who to turn to, so have ended up coming on here in the hope of finding some answers to it all.

So where do we go from here?

  1. Hubby very apologetic, naturally. Lots of flowers and peace offerings happening at he moment.
  2. His main excuse is: ‘he wanted to tell me at the start’ but could ‘just never find he right words’.... at start of relationship we were in a romantic patch having been good friends for 4 years before, and it never seemed to be the right time. And then, it went to engagement and the finishing straight into marriage, pregnancy, etc.
  3. His main defence is ‘he knows how to manage his symptoms’, he’s been dealing with it for 12 years, he just takes this drug and that keeps it all at bay. Apparently he hasn’t had a visible ‘flare-up’ for 6 years, and that last happened when he went away on holiday for 2 weeks and forgot to take his medication with him.

Here’s my problem:

  1. This totally ruins intimacy for me forever now. Even if we used protection every time from now, I can’t get it out of my head that he’s carrying an STD, and that is a major turn-off. I could probably force myself to do it, to preserve the marriage but it would be a massive undertaking, and not something I feel I could get used to.
  2. Even if I could manage to get my head around the idea of protected sex, how can I ever go back to unprotected sex knowing this? This really throws ideas of an eventual 2nd child into question. Even if I did eventually build my way back up to unprotected sex again, I’d feel like I was playing Russian roulette with my own health every time.
  3. Telling him all this wouldn’t be easy, would probably put him off me
  4. He knows I’m angry about it all and probably thinks I will eventually calm down, but i really feel like this is putting a wedge between us that is not going to easily go away. I feel like I’ve been cheated on and lied to. Even if the ‘cheated on’ part isn’t real. His way of looking at it is that all this happened a full 6 years before I even met him, and that he’s just been terribly unlucky. After all, how many of us haven’t had a one night stand in our twenties? Unfortunately for him it’s left a lasting legacy for life.

In some ways I wish I’d never gone and looked for a pen in his bag now, my life wouldn’t be so screwed up now if I had... Am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
Nancydrawn · 21/08/2018 20:15

It's not about the fact that it can be managed, it's that he's made a decision about her sexual health without telling her. My husband doesn't get to make decisions about my health without my consent.

He also hid a piece of information that could be vital to their baby's health from both her and (I assume) from the doctors. It can be managed in a pregnant mother, but that should require transparency with the medical team.

I would be livid by the lie of omission alone. I am also assuming (hoping!) that before you started having condomless sex you had a brief chat about your sexual health, which means he also lied outright.

It's not the STD, it's the lying and the expression of ownership over your health and your decisions. Unacceptable.

MarthasGinYard · 21/08/2018 20:18

'You don’t take acyclovir every day do you?'

No you don't

Really odd re the medication

MarthasGinYard · 21/08/2018 20:19

'I’d be wanting evidence it was 12 years ago and not more recently.'

Absolutely

PeakPants · 21/08/2018 20:20

Side-effects of aciclovir:

Nausea
Diarrhea
Vomiting
Headache
Dizziness
Tiredness
Muscle or joint aches
Visual changes
Fluid retention
Hair loss
Confusion
Changes in behavior

Sounds great, doesn't it? Perfectly reasonable to expose someone to a potential lifetime of that.

PeakPants · 21/08/2018 20:21

Marthas she has got evidence that he has had it for 12 years and he is on it daily.

Failingat40 · 21/08/2018 20:21

Okay, he's proven he's been medicated for years but the fact remains he's knowingly put your sexual health at risk without your consent.

Just because he's medicated doesn't mean he's cured, he will always carry the virus and can infect others (you). This alone is really unforgivable and incredibly selfish imo.

After being together in a trusting and loving relationship, engagement then marriage and still he still never told you makes me wonder what kind of person he really is.

Herpes virus is serious to babies, one set of parents were raising awareness of this very issue just weeks ago after losing their little boy Kit at 13 days old after it was discovered he'd contracted herpes, presumably from either childbirth or being kissed by an infected person.

I think if I were you I'd get a joint appointment at the GP or GUM clinic and ask them to go through his history while you're there and get advice on the likelihood of you being infected yourself and arrange testing.

Motherhood101Fail · 21/08/2018 20:28

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MarthasGinYard · 21/08/2018 20:28

Peak

Thanks, apologies I hadn't read OP's update

I didn't realise the medication for herpes was for life

A colleague takes similar who has HIV

NameChange30 · 21/08/2018 20:31

Many people are missing the point.

Would I stay with someone who had contracted herpes before we met, and told me about it? Yes

Would I stay with someone who had sex with me, married me and HAD A BABY WITH ME without telling me they had herpes? Hell no

NicoAndTheNiners · 21/08/2018 20:33

I don’t think OP is overreacting.

She most likely wouldn’t have reacted like this if she’d been told 12 years ago. It’s the lying for 12 years and the fact he still never said anything even when she was pregnant that would make me so furious.

Was he clueless about the risks to the baby?

Failingat40 · 21/08/2018 20:35

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/health/neonatal-herpes-hsv1-symptoms-baby-15024887.amp

People on here minimising and trying to downplay the potential seriousness of the herpesvirus are the reason why things like this tragedy happen.

PeakPants · 21/08/2018 20:36

I am feeling pretty surprised and sad that there is such a stigma attached to a virus that is so common (and mostly just unpleasant/unsightly)

Well, I think it is sad that there is still stigma around HIV. Doesn't mean I want my right to choose whether I am exposed to it compromised. There are lots of people with HIV living normal lives. Same with lots of other medical conditions. It doesn't matter how trivial you think it is- if you know you have it, it's not okay to expose others to it. Just no. Plus, it clearly isn't as trivial as you suggest because this man has been on quite heavy duty meds for many years. Maybe he has a particularly aggressive strain.

Aciclovir · 21/08/2018 20:37

I have oral herpes and just wanted to comment on the length of time I am allowed to take that level of medication for.

I suffer from significant outbreaks (once a month / multiple sites and they occur in various locations on my face including eyelids which is unusual and could result in blindness). I was given a regime after being referred to a specialist consultant team that my GP now follows.

I have to have an outbreak every month for 4/6 months before I can take a long term course of 400mg tablets. I am then allowed to take the medication until I have been symptom free for 6 months. Before being weaned off and am only allowed to take Aciclovir during an outbreak. Until I get them every month for 4/6 months and then the cycle repeats.

They are a strong immune suppressant and the fact that the OP’s DP has had his doseage increased must mean he suffered from outbreaks during this time otherwise they would have left him on a lower dose. As he has been on them continuously for 12 years it would indicate that any outbreaks he gets are significant.

Regards to it being passed on, I have been told by many medical professionals that herpes can only be passed on during an active outbreak.

OP, I am sorry your DP has lied to you and exposed you to this.

MistressoftheYoniverse · 21/08/2018 20:37

I've never had a STD but I thought I did and broke up with my partner over it (who I'm now married to) it turned out the dr gave me the information without actual results saying I had P.I.D I was soo incredibly angry and hurt...and then it turned out I didn't have it and he had no STIs (he was very careful with sexual health) it was something we had to work through but we were young and without DCs (Angrywith the Dr afterwards).
So you know for sure he has a STI not the worst but not great...so you have to ask yourself outside of all the ..'I would do this, that or the other '.. no one knows anything about you or your relationship...you know him and what he is like ...you know yourself and what you can cope with...I will give my opinion and that is people do make mistakes and they are afraid they could loose all they love, but equally they can just be lying a bastard...is he truly sorry? Can you forgive him? ...only you can know this...don't feel pressured either way.. do what is right for you and yours take care hun Flowers

NoLightInTheTunnel · 21/08/2018 20:38

It would be the end of the marriage for me OP. Apart from the fact that he put your health and that of your baby at risk, he's lied to you and deceived you from the word go. How could you ever trust someone like that again?

formerbabe · 21/08/2018 20:39

I think it's outrageous he kept it a secret even when you were pregnant and giving birth which is potentially a risk to the baby during delivery...his lie by omission meant you weren't able to seek medical advice on this issue. It's despicable behaviour imo.

AynRandTheObjectivist · 21/08/2018 20:43

The stigma around herpes is beside the point. Nobody wants to be unknowingly exposed to an STI, especially one that compromised their child's health. If OP had known, the pregnancy could have been managed accordingly.

AsYouAre · 21/08/2018 20:52

When I was in my teens I picked up herpes from an ex who failed to tell me he had it, had no visible sores at the time.

I was treated with the same pills your husband got, it cleared up and I've only had one (very small and barely noticeable) outbreak since. This was over twelve years ago. The virus will always be in my body but its not something that troubles me, I don't suffer from it.

Obviously some people do get many more outbreaks and that's not nice to live with.

I've had two babies and neither one got it or had any complications because of it.

I'm struggling to understand why your husband is taking medication daily? I've never heard of needing to take pills daily to suppress it.

Both times I had symptoms I took the medication and it went away (the symptoms that is) and no further medication was required. Zero.

As far as I know you can't "suppress" it and can only treat it when its visible. If anybody knows different please feel free to correct me.

I would be doing some serious digging to find out whether he has been faithful, I'd be quick to assume this is a recent infection. As somebody with the virus I can't get my head around him saying he takes the medication daily to suppress outbreaks??

Herpes isn't nice but its not the worst thing in the world. I do however think its disgusting how he didn't tell you, very selfish of him.

If it isn't a 12 year old infection and instead a recent thing that would clear up any doubt about why he didn't mention it..

PeonyTruffle · 21/08/2018 20:57

I have it.
I caught it off a guy i was seeing v briefly before I met my husband.

I didn't know I had it until after I had given birth to my DS, my husband and I had unprotected sex when TTC (bearing in mind I had no clue about it) and he hasn't caught it. I have had 2 outbreaks, caused by stress in my case.

I do not take the anti viral tablets every day, ONLY when I have an outbreak so not sure why your husband takes them every day?

Yes he should have told you when you were TTC but it sounds like he's on top of it and you really shouldn't be at risk of catching

leighdinglady · 21/08/2018 21:00

I can't believe people are telling you you're over reacting. Yes herpes isn't a massive deal, but it should be your choice if you have unprotected sex and take that risk. He knowing tried for a baby without telling you! Herpes can be very dangerous for babies and yet he still didn't tell you to protect his child?! I'm dump him.

Motherhood101Fail · 21/08/2018 21:09

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Suewiang · 21/08/2018 21:10

If he’s on such a high dose daily which appears very unusual from others that have posted and have it then he must have it very bad which puts the risks mega high surely

VladmirsPoutine · 21/08/2018 21:22

@Motherhood101Fail Come off it. A woman discovering her husband has been hiding his herpes for the best part of their relationship is in no way comparable to the systemic abuse and victimisation that homosexual individuals experienced. Neither is it comparable to bestiality which frankly is sick and disgusting. Stop your own 'melodramatisation'. If I were the OP, tomorrow morning I'd be in search of a divorce lawyer.

BackInTheRoom · 21/08/2018 21:24

Maybe he lied because he was embarrassed about it? And as the years passed, he couldn't bring himself to admit it?

Maybe he thought he didn't pose a risk to you or the baby because he was taking these meds as a preventive/precaution?

I think you maybe need to visit a specialist where you can voice your concerns?

theworstwife · 21/08/2018 21:25

Lots of misinformation here - OP please take it with a pinch of salt. I am a consultant in sexual health if you wanted to PM me please feel free