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I know my parents are toxic. But I wasn't prepared for this and I don't know what to do.

464 replies

kardashianklone · 08/08/2018 10:46

I'm sorry, this is long. I've tried to put in paragraphs to make it a little less trying. I don't have a good relationship with my parents. Any relationship, really. Full on narcissistic mum and enabling dad who are very controlling, petty, spiteful and prone to temper tantrums. I try to have as little to do with them as possible because every single interaction is just horrible and upsetting and nothing positive ever comes from it. I have read 'Toxic Parent's by Susan Forward (amazing book) and they are textbook.

I have tried to tell them how I feel, they don't care or don't listen. And the cycle endlessly repeats itself. I have gone NC before, but them one or the other of them has some serious health related drama and as an only child I am expected to fix all of their problems. They also don't seem to notice when I go NC and just carry on, regardless. We had a horrible Christmas 2017 where they said terrible things (by text) and when I responded back it was just silence. They ignored it, waited a few months, then carried on.

Previous gems include telling me I was a mistake baby but they decided to 'love me in the end', and being told "you should look at yourself and ask what went wrong", that I am "no daughter of theirs" (because I wouldn't use my annual leave to go and run their business whilst they went on holiday), and when Mum faked a heart attack (she'd coughed a bit too hard and strained the muscles around her ribs) that it was my fault for not visiting them enough. Also Mum telling me that she will probably die soon and that again will be my fault.

Late last night, I had a text message out of the blue (they won't call me, email me, and only Dad text messages me. Mum won't answer the phone if I call and won't respond to any of my communications). The message said that this month is their anniversary month (they were married years before I was born), and if I "forget what this means to your mum and dad (he speaks in the 3rd person) we will never speak to you again so try to not be a selfish child. Dad". It's not a joke- that's how they talk. Emotional blackmail, passive aggressive, temper tantrums. The viewing me as a child, not an adult, so it's all about control, the setting ridiculous responses in overblown dramatic fashion...it's so exhausting and distressing.

So now I have a dilemma. On one hand...they've made it easy for me, I would happily never talk to them again. On the other hand, I could just send a card (as I do every year) but I know it won't be enough. It will be, why didn't you send a present, or visit us, or make our day special? (they don't do anything to celebrate it themselves). I also resent being 'forced' to send them a card because of a threat of 'or else'. Once, about 10 years ago, I did forget to send a card, and Mum refused to speak to me for 6 months, and when she did, she called me a slut. So, what should I do? Send a card, not send a card?

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Aussiebean · 26/03/2019 11:05

Love the double standard.

We can ignore you. But how dare you ignore us. Well done x

FookMeFookYou · 26/03/2019 11:15

The only thing you should send them is lots of bad juju for being such narcissistic cunts. Go nc and live a happier life.

llangennith · 26/03/2019 11:30

kardashianklone you have had so much to deal with all your young life and you deserve better. Keep strong and ignore your parents' demands and dramas.
You mentioned earlier not having children in case you ended up being the kind of parent your own parents were. My DIL felt the same (so did her brother) but my son really wanted children. They lived together for over 10 years but in the end the need for children was so strong that my son considered moving out. After counselling DIL agreed to have a child. They got married, their son was born 9 months later and DIL is a wonderful mother. DIL was 42 when she gave birth seven years ago and she now wonders why she waited so long. He brother also had a DD a year later.
Please don't let that fear deter you from having your own children.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 26/03/2019 11:30

I think it's time to get legal advice and maybe something formal from the police about not harassing you.

eddielizzard · 26/03/2019 11:44

You are doing amazingly well! Keep ignoring.

FFS every couple of months they try and see if they can get you to respond. Don't respond. Don't. Otherwise they'll be encouraged and you really don't want that...

Warmhandscoldheart · 26/03/2019 11:46

You should be very proud of yourself. You've overcome so many doubts, conquered your fears and not given in to their horrendous behaviour.
I'm proud of you SmileFlowers

sonjadog · 26/03/2019 16:58

They may keep this up for years, yes. But with the alternative being having them in your life harassing and bullying you all the time, this is at least a better option. I hope they do finally leave you alone, but with so little self-awareness, it may take a very long time.

bagpiss · 26/03/2019 18:05

Op, you've overcome so much, you should be very proud of yourself. Unfortunately people like your parents rarely ever, ever see they're in the wrong and usually always find a way to get to you. Do you think considering changing your name by deedpoll would be too extreme?

MoseShrute · 26/03/2019 18:09

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user1498572889 · 26/03/2019 18:30

I went nc with my father for 20 years. Changed my phone number and told siblings not to give him any information about my life. My sibling too eventually went nc with him. The outcome was 2 years ago he died and not one blood relative of his went to his funeral or even mourned. We have spoken about him and have all said that all we feel is relief that he is dead. Sad but some people do not deserve our love and kindness.

Tokenjester · 26/03/2019 20:48

I’m always amazed how families just don’t get it -they treat you appallingly & then expect you to bow down in appreciation of the attention. I am in a similar scenario & have been trying to find info how to deal with it - I found this article - just shows how you can accept the situation & move on.

www.everythingiwishiknew.com/family-relationshipsblog/family-estrangement-the-silent-epidemic

CookPassBabtridge · 27/03/2019 12:24

They are nuts. How do they not get the huge hint. Narcississm at its finest. Keep doing what you're doing 💪🏼

Hearhere · 27/03/2019 12:52

Stay strong, think about what this pair are like now and imagine what they'll be like when they're elderly and really need help, stay well away and be mindful of all the bullets that you are dodging

Daisymay2 · 03/04/2019 09:26

Hope you haven't had any fall out from ignoring Mother's Day. If you do it might be an idea to get legal advice and maybe solicitor's letter about harassment.

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