Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Anonymous letter

275 replies

Summertime54 · 21/07/2018 22:22

I have received an anonymous letter through the post. It was addressed incorrectly but the letter stated that my partner is having an affair and that they didn't want me to be the last to find out about it. Where do I start with this? Believe it and investigate further? Ignore it? Confront him? Any advice would be appreciated Smile

OP posts:
rainbowstardrops · 02/08/2018 15:22

I'm not sure how much you're prepared to put up with or how long you're prepared to go with the flow before he really hurts you but at the end of the day, you have two choices .......
Either leave the aggressive (and probably cheating) bastard OR keep putting up with it. It's a no brainer to me.
I also assume your DC are experiencing all of this too.
He's not going to change. You know that.

LornaMumsnet · 02/08/2018 15:48

Hi Summertime54,

We're so sorry to hear you're going through this.

We can see you're getting some good advice and support from other Mumsnetters here, but we thought it might be useful to add a link to our Domestic Violence webguide - there are plenty of organisations listed on it which could offer you practical help too.

One organisation which we know has helped many women in situations like yours is Women's Aid. The link to their website can be found here, and there's a freephone helpline which is available 24 hours a day - 0808 2000 247.

Very best wishes from all at MNHQ. Flowers

Summertime54 · 03/08/2018 08:47

He ended up coming away, as the kids really wanted him there. He's been really helpful and nice since we got here (although I want to say that he's taken something as he was really calm). I've probably made the worst mistake doing this and gone against everything. Just don't feel in the right frame of mind to think straight, just emotionally drained and feel like I'm constantly holding back the tears.

Just reading about emotional abuse and have been thinking back about all the times I've just classed him as being a complete arse. I just need to work it all out in my head so I can see it for what it is and if he has actually just done this for the whole "relationship'.

Going out for a nights out after my first was born telling me he would be back in a few hours, staying out for days and ignoring my texts asking if he was ok. I was in bits thinking the worst and he would roll in days later or calling me demanding I pick him up at 3am because he was injured/in a bad way

Texting other women and telling me it was all in my head

Getting in a mood when I don't do everything for him or buy him what he wants

In a way I'm glad this letter has given me some courage to post. Sorry for moaning about it all, I really want to thank everyone for the advice. X

OP posts:
mmzz · 03/08/2018 09:12

You are pregnant, vulnerable and he is threatening real violence. What if he hurts you?

Honestly, you will never get your head around this until you are free of him. If you wait until you can think clearly before acting, it won't happen.

Fabbydoodles · 03/08/2018 09:39

I have been reading your post and hope you are ok? I see so much of my own life in your post, abused by my STBXH, worsened by pregnancies, charmed the pants off anyone he met and sapped me of every ounce of who I ever was. I made excuses, I didn't have the strength to let go of him, he controlled me like a puppet. You will get your lightbulb moment, it will come from no where, it will empower you to kick his arse right out of that door, it will be hard, it's much easier calling time on a relationship that has genuinely ran it's course, abusive ones are much harder to let go of as you are drowning in the control. We tell our children bullies will not be tolerated yet we find ourselves being bullied, stand up lovely and be counted, you can do this your stronger than you think x

5LeafClover · 03/08/2018 09:55

Sometimes we need to process and think but at the same time you can start to put back up in place. Please tell someone in real life....and put the kids and your important docs together. I hope everything stays good for you, I really do but if things suddenly change you will need to act fast and this will help.

Twinkie1 · 03/08/2018 10:17

Take all emotion/history out of this and think what you'd do if you were walking along the street and a stranger physically or verbally assaulted you the way he does.

You'd immediately ring the police, how dare they, how shocking, that's assault.

Now seriously think about the way he treats you.

A stranger does it, someone who has no history with you, hasn't even spoken to you before and it's unacceptable but the man who lives in your house, eats your food, has impregnated you, whispered he loves you, is supposed to want to protect you, make you happy, be there for you when your feeling weak and vulnerable does it and it's ok?

bethy15 · 03/08/2018 10:54

Going out for a nights out after my first was born telling me he would be back in a few hours, staying out for days and ignoring my texts asking if he was ok. I was in bits thinking the worst and he would roll in days later or calling me demanding I pick him up at 3am because he was injured/in a bad way

So most likely he's been cheating on you for years, this would be what he's doing while he's been gone for days.

But, more importantly, he's physically abusing you. He's holding you against the wall by your neck. This is very serious.

Please, please, please call 101. Please. If not for you, for your children. Imagine them being held up against a wall by their neck by this man.

Did you have an abusive childhood (or are you not aware you did)?
I ask because I had one, and the behaviour you describe I saw a lot of. My family also used to tell me that everybody screams and shouts behind closed doors, in 30 now and still find it hard to believe that that's actually true.

It's damaged me mentally beyond description here. But I suffer everyday due to behaviours I witnessed as a child and my mother or grandmother being held up against the wall by their necks. Sometimes it can come out in anger myself. But, like you describe, there were days when everyone was all sweetness and light. It doesn't mean the abuse isn't happening though.

I tell you this because as a mother, surely you don't want your children to suffer in the future? If you don't, then you know you have to do something and quick. You need this man out of your house, and quick. Call 101, call women's aid, please be proactive for those children. Really, you have to do it, you just do.

HettySunshine · 03/08/2018 14:58

When you have time op please read this thread. I hope it helps you xxx

Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3317751-Should-have-listened-to-Mumsnet-I-think-it-might-need-a-trigger-warning

Summertime54 · 04/08/2018 10:21

@HettySunshine thanks lovely I will read the thread you suggested today

@Fabbydoodles sorry to read you have been through the same thing. Did you get your lightbulb moment?

@bethy15 sorry to read about your childhood, that must have been difficult for you. I do see what you mean about the kids being in this environment and I don't want that for them at all. There was quite a lot of shouting in my house when I grew up but I classed that as normal.

I've just been trying to enjoy my time away, but wish he hadn't come with us. He is fine one min and then sulking the next. Went out yesterday, he said he was bored. The restaurant was full, that was my fault because i'd chosen it. I was too long in the shop, walked too slow down the steps with the pram so he got faster, practically dragging me down. I even found myself saying to my eldest we better hurry up as Daddy is so far in front (as we had been enjoying our walk) all so he didn't get angry. I've never had a proper relationship before this one so I'm so sorry about how much I've gone on but all your messages have made me realise that this is completely not normal and I've allowed the kids to be around this for too long. X

OP posts:
DrinkFeckArseGirls · 04/08/2018 14:04

This situation is not your fault but it is your responsibility to get you amd your children out of this. If you’re not convinced for yourself, what about your DC? You want them to be exposed to this?

Fabbydoodles · 04/08/2018 14:24

@summertime54 yes I did, after another pin up against a wall from him, I truly thought that death would have been a better place than this living hell! There were a few times I had a lightbulb moment but again I used excuses, this was it though, the very last time, I didn't feel scared anymore I felt an incredible sense of power..it will come lovely, stay safe tho, your getting stronger and indifferent to him, we are all routing for you Flowers

periperimenopause · 04/08/2018 15:54

I've been following this thread with growing concern for you and your children. I echo what other posters have said re. how he has used emotional and physical abuse in order to behave in disgusting ways and gaslight you (amongst other things) to leave you thinking you are to blame or it's not that bad etc.

I would add something here - and am not saying this lightly or to make you worry more. My feeling is that you need to act to put an end to this relationship. If you feel you cannot do this alone then tell friends and family what has been going on. Let them help in any way they can.

The reason I say this is - There is no way your children are not aware of the dynamic in your home. Now, if your children are in nursery, and /or school, they may very naturally make a comment to staff. It could be a disclosure of them being afraid or scared when x, y or z happens or when daddy does x,y or z to mummy. Equally it could be a throwaway comment about home life that to them seems a normal behaviour or situation. Any teacher or childcare worker worth their salt will recognise this as a red flag.

Depending on what the child says there are a number of scenarios (all of them involving at the very least, passing the info on to the Child Protection Leader within the school - with nursery/primary children this is usually the HT - and it being logged ) Staff are trained to talk to children to gain more information if they are concerned, and should follow the national guidelines. Staff in schools no longer are left to make "judgement calls" but must act in accordance with guidelines. This could be a call to SWD etc. and then it is in their hands to deal with.

I am not adding any of this to make you anxious or scared or force your hand through fear of possibles before you are ready. It is also a worst case scenario. But I felt it worth at least putting it out there

I just know from professional experience that at the moment the decision is yours to get out of this abusive relationship (which in my view it most definitely is) and how to go about it. My concern is this decision could quickly end up being taken out of your hands. Child abuse/neglect is no longer deemed to be just when something happens to the child themselves but also includes the child witnessing violence/abuse etc in the home environment between their parents/guardians.

Please act if not for your sake but for the sake of your children and your unborn child. Please tell family and friends and get their help. Call the police. Make every effort to show that you want to end this relationship and take all help that you can within the law. Make sure it is all logged etc. If you don't then, without evidence of his aggression, he will be entitled to unsupervised access or worse shared custody as from your posts he seems to share child care equally? Only you know if this is something that would put your children in danger. Look after yourself and your children. You are worth far more than this. No one should have to put up with this from any one and especially not someone who should love and support you before all else

Summertime54 · 04/08/2018 23:04

Thank you for your advice, I don't really have anyone to talk to in RL so I really have appreciated it all. I am going to get everything sorted for the sake of my kids. Just needed that clarification I wasn't going crazy.

OP posts:
Bunintheoven88 · 05/08/2018 16:58

It is evident you must have been exposed to years of emotional/physical abuse from this man (although you don't see it as physical), because you seem a very rational person, but you must MUST think about your DC and unborn baby before you think of this pathetic excuse for a person, because if this escalates and something terrible happens to either DC or unborn baby, you will hate yourself. Please OP I know it's hard but you must do the right thing, by your children, and by yourself. Nobody deserves to be treated this way and when the dust has settled you will see that. Is there literally nobody in RL you can speak to about this?

Wishing you stacks of luck and love xxxxFlowers

Summertime54 · 05/08/2018 22:00

Thanks lovely, I completely get what you have all said. If I keep going over it all in my head then it won't make it any better and I still can't make sense of it. In fact, I've had a lovely day today and feel like a fraud and so guilty for posting on here in the first place.

Maybe if I talk to someone in RL it will make it all more real, I don't have any friends or family I can talk to but might make appointment with GP and start there or do you think that will cause more issues and I should just concentrate on getting him out? So sorry about going on about this so much x

OP posts:
Mary1935 · 05/08/2018 22:25

Hi Summertime - don’t apologise - keep posting people want to guide you. It’s a slow process having your eyes opened to what’s been going on. He’s had you running ragged. When he called you in the early hours to collect him did you go? Or did you feel you had to go to keep the peace? HE WILL NOT CHANGE. I had no one to talk too - I carried a lot of shame. I contacted my local women’s aid - burst in tears on the phone and I was able to see them the following day.
Slowly slowly my eyes where opened. It took about two years till I finally saw he was not my responsibility and I was not responsible for HIM.
They grind you down so much you don’t know what your doing.
I started anti-depressants which helped me.
I told my GP and then the last time he assaulted me I went to the Police station and reported him.
You take care. No one deserves this treatment. 🌺

Summertime54 · 06/08/2018 00:47

Thanks @Mary1935. Yes stupidly I did go out and pick him up as I wanted to keep the peace when he got in or sometimes he would say he was injured so badly or use threats etc. This hasn't happened in a while as he doesn't go out much now but I hated him going out drinking as I always waited for the phone call and would actually be up crying all night - I don't even know why. So many excuses made for him and I lost a lot of friends. Glad that you were able to get help. You take care too x

OP posts:
Juneonthewestcoast · 06/08/2018 16:07

This sounds so tough Summertime; hope you are okay! You don't deserve any of this. What a complete twat he is to behave this way!

Getting him out of the house and having proper barriers between you and him is the most important thing. It's the best way to be safe, and for him to know that his behavior is unacceptable and he can't do that to you anymore. Have you tried calling Women's Aid? It would also be very reasonable to call the police about this too, just to get some support and to make sure you are safe.

Once you get free you'll be able to build your life and focus on yourself without living in anxiety and fear. I'm sure loads of your old friends would love to hear from you again too :-) You can do it!

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 06/08/2018 17:12

I think talking to your GP is a good start - as others have suggested please also speak to Women's Aid. You're at the beginning of what could be a life-changing path and we are here to support you, but you can't beat real life support too.

As the poster above also said, it is worth letting police know what has been happening - and warn them that you may need their help getting him out.

Good luck and keep posting.

Summertime54 · 06/08/2018 18:06

Thanks everyone so much. I've beyond had enough today, think actually opening up about it and everything has made me feel really shit. I'm in so much trouble with work because he always makes me late etc. I hate moaning about everything but I don't feel like I can even go home today. X

OP posts:
PatheticNurse · 06/08/2018 18:21

So what are you going to do about it?

chocorabbit · 07/08/2018 11:13

Why was it that YOU were at work and he called YOU to bring an envelope?? Did you ask him straight? You are not his servant/secretary/butler/servant.

I think that whatever he wanted the envelope for is irrelevant and you missed an opportunity to put across the message that you are an equal and don't have time/he is not special by asking a question not useful to you. Stop asking why he wants stuff and start thinking how it affects YOU and why YOU don't have the time/energy/lower status to keep caring to his demands.

People normally answer directly how it affects THEM to any calls for arrangements but I understand that some don't or find it normal not to or others take time to realise that they can refuse so in your case you always end up asking HIM back what/how/where. Do you ever call HIM at work to ask for this and that to be brought/bought to you? Next time he asks for grocery send HIM to get it. What a gentleman Hmm

If he is already saying that the baby is not his he will not care when it is born. I am pro-life but I wouldn't want a baby with this abuser. From many threads and even information put in women's toilets they say that abusers show their true colours or max their abuse during pregnancy. Be very careful and think carefully Flowers

chocorabbit · 07/08/2018 13:20

No, OP. It is clear that HE is the one who moans and complains. You have rights and should claim them and demand respect! It seems that he has conditioned you to think that you moan so you will shut up and not refuse him anything. Use the exact thing AGAINST him. Whenever he asks you for grocery refuse, let him complain and when he complains that you were late patronise him and roll your eyes just like he does and emphasise how much he moans and complains and what a pain he is.

Prioritise your job over him. I am sure there must be quite a few single men at your work place who manage perfectly fine without a servant a woman doing their work.

daughterofanarchy · 07/08/2018 17:43

You cannot live like this. Your children are seeing this. What happens if they tell school/ nursery (if they are of age to
Attend either of those) about what happening at home. You need to take steps to ensure their safety and yours. Some previous posters have given wonderful advice and I would echo that you need to be free of this man, he is abusing you. I hope you are able to get rid of him.

Swipe left for the next trending thread