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Is he trying to rub salt in my wounds?

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TakeTwoOfThat · 21/06/2018 21:51

So many might have read the threads ive been writing about my husband..

A BIT OF A BACK STORY.

I recently found out he had text a random woman off the internet and then sent money to another. He blamed me saying I caused him to do it because of my 'behaviour' so we had a massive row and he slept in the car, he said sorry after a few days and we sat down and both agreed to made changes. we was getting on better apart from the fact I struggled to trust him when he went out or to the gym alone and he expected me to trust him again in a day.

Then fast forward to Tuesday this week, he said he had to go take something to his cousin to pack in his suitcase as he was going back home. he said he would go to the gym straight after. He was gone 3 hours and didn't even message me when he will be back (he usually messages me that hes in the gym) but he didn't so I rang him and text and he ignored me. Then a few minutes later he said he went for a beer with his cousin then to the gym (who goes to the pub in gym clothes?)but I didn't believe him because he acted odd before he left like he was hiding something then I rang my uncle (his cousin was staying with my uncle) to see whether his story matches up and according to my uncle and his cousin, he didn't even go for a beer and just dropped off the items that's it. Then when I asked my husband where he really was he couldn't answer and just kept saying with his cousin

So then Tuesday my husband said hes leaving me and comes amd collects his belongings (but he leaves a few things in his wardrobe and drawers) he swears on his kids lives that he will never get back with me (so I know he really is leaving me as he wouldn't say that if he wasn't certain) Any he calls in to see kids over next couple of days and keeps taking random stuff from his wardrobe and drawers, Is he messing with my head as he could have took it all at once. Then today he text me saying he wanted to come and say night to the kids so I agreed, he came around 7 and stayed about half an hour and went into my freezer looking for a frozen meal I made days ago, then he looks In my cupboard. Then he goes up to put my son to bed and I follow up to say night to my son like we do every night.. I lie on my bed and he walks out of our room (my son is in my room) and then turns back comes in and mumbles (what else do I need from here?) and takes one white tshirt....yes one tshirt that I think he doesn't even like anymore and walks out of the house and doesn't say bye, Is he doing this to torment me? to rub salt in my wounds? he knows I deeply love him and I feel like hes rubbing it in my face that hes left me

is this normal behaviour for somone whoes just left their wife?

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category12 · 01/11/2018 17:46

No, we're not the same person, but thanks for that Acrossthepond55 Hmm. Do feel free to check my posting history and report me if you think I'm that sad.

The point I was trying to make/get you to think about, OP, is that you're spending so much time justifying yourself to someone you don't need to justify yourself to here. (In this case the one poster who was having a dig at you, rather than the ones who are supportive and trying to advise you). And this is exactly what you seem to be doing that in real life too - placating your ex and spending so much emotional energy on the whys and wherefores and justifications - and this is paralysing you.

You need to take control of your life and set those boundaries people keep advising you on.

TakeTwoOfThat · 01/11/2018 17:50

@category12 thank you! I know you wasn't linked to @canihaveanap because you've been giving advice on this thread which I really appreciate. If it wasn't for you all on here I would still be in a bad place but I am moving on slowly even if I don't sound like it. I just didn't understand your last post but you've made it clear now and it's true, I am justifying everything. I think he's brainwashed me that much I've become a robot and every time I blames me I believe it and when someone on here tries to tell me it's all my fault I guess I get defensive because it's exactly what he says to me.

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category12 · 01/11/2018 17:56

Try not to give him (or them) the headroom Smile. They don't deserve it.

You don't need to make other people see it from your point of view, especially him, (he's never going to because it's not in his interests to do so). Have a little faith in yourself Smile. You're getting there.

TakeTwoOfThat · 03/11/2018 12:20

@category12 thank you

I don't have much faith in myself and that's why my life is such a mess at the moment but hopefully by working on myself I will get there. I think by him putting the blame on me for anything and everything it's made me feel I should crucify myself and accept all this because it's 'my fault' but I'm trying to tell myself that everything can't possibly be my fault, not fair to have put the whole relationship on my shoulders as if I was the only responsible for making it work, like it was my duty to make everything right. I just have to teach myself and be kinder to myself as I've been very harsh to myself lately.

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Hyppolyta · 03/11/2018 13:36

Ive just skim read the whole thread and Im a bit in awe of you, OP that youve managed to cope with 5 children and this dickhead!

Your ex sounds like an absolute waste of space, and its time for you to get angry. Or better yet, laugh at him.

Get thee to the CMS and get some money, and if he will agree try and set up one night a week he has his children. Alternatively, could you arrange a babysitter? Its time you took back some control and started having your own life.

TakeTwoOfThat · 03/11/2018 18:23

@Hyppolyta thank you. I'm just trying to get by, ive lost my appetite, don't sleep well and just feel anxious and sad about the future. I'm very confused at the moment

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needhelptoday · 14/11/2018 09:01

So some shocking news to share

He’s just out of the blue admitted to me that he was in a relationship with this woman since he left me ( although I recon it was whilst still with me but he denies this) and he said he wants to come back to me because he ‘can’t see a life without me’ and that he still loves me and that he left that woman coz she kept saying that she wanted him to divorce me and wanted for him to move in with her and to get married. All the while he’s telling me he wanted to buy a house with me and have a future with me whilst he was with her! I think she dumped him and That’s why he wants to come back to me

I asked him could she be pregnant and he said ‘I don’t know’
I feel so stupid for crying over him after this feel stupid that I wanted him back after he didn't even think about me as he was starting a life with him.
I said to him 'why would you want or think you can come back to me after you started a life with her'
He said 'because I thought about it and I can't see me living with her and doing all this family stuff with her when I have a wife and kids I should be doing this stuff with'
So basically he left me thinking the grass is greener and realised it wasn't and destroyed his and his kids lives through it all.

I feel so stupid for feeling guilty that him leaving was my fault when it took him a week to jump into bed with someone else! I'm angry!

TakeTwoOfThat · 14/11/2018 09:47

Hello. I've been on benefits ( income support) for 20 weeks. My husband left me and that's why I'm Claiming it as I was a stay at home mum. I need to replace some stuff that he took when he left ( bed, white goods etc)
As I don't have it as it wasn't mine he paid for it. Anyway I've researched a budgeting loan and you have to be on income support for 26 weeks but Is there anymore help I can access as I don't think I can wait a further 6 weeks to become eligible for this loan, I have no family or disposable income. My credit rating is poor so I can't access credit.

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TakeTwoOfThat · 14/11/2018 09:48

Sorry ignore the other message ( about loan) tried to change my name as suspected someone I knew was reading this thread and I've made a mess of it lol

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TakeTwoOfThat · 14/11/2018 09:48

So some shocking news to share

He’s just out of the blue admitted to me that he was in a relationship with this woman since he left me ( although I recon it was whilst still with me but he denies this) and he said he wants to come back to me because he ‘can’t see a life without me’ and that he still loves me and that he left that woman coz she kept saying that she wanted him to divorce me and wanted for him to move in with her and to get married. All the while he’s telling me he wanted to buy a house with me and have a future with me whilst he was with her! I think she dumped him and That’s why he wants to come back to me

I asked him could she be pregnant and he said ‘I don’t know’
I feel so stupid for crying over him after this feel stupid that I wanted him back after he didn't even think about me as he was starting a life with him.
I said to him 'why would you want or think you can come back to me after you started a life with her'
He said 'because I thought about it and I can't see me living with her and doing all this family stuff with her when I have a wife and kids I should be doing this stuff with'
So basically he left me thinking the grass is greener and realised it wasn't and destroyed his and his kids lives through it all.

I feel so stupid for feeling guilty that him leaving was my fault when it took him a week to jump into bed with someone else! I'm angry!

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Aussiebean · 14/11/2018 11:03

It’s all very much about whe HE wants and needs isn’t it.

‘I wanted her so I left. Now I want you and you will take me back because that’s what I want.’

Has he even asked what you want? Apologised for his behaviour? Tried to make amends without the object of that being you take him back but because it’s the right thing to do?

Alilwolf · 14/11/2018 11:53

Of course he's been dumped. Do not let him back. She doesn't want him. You certainly shouldn't want him. Tell him to do one.

TakeTwoOfThat · 14/11/2018 17:29

He's just admitted to me she's pregnant and had the cheek to ask for me back... can't believe any of this..

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AcrossthePond55 · 14/11/2018 21:14

Oh Cripes! What more can he fucking dump on you? He has got to be one of the most selfish jerks I've ever heard of.

Is there any way you can just block him? Can someone else deal with him as far as seeing the children (away from you). You need time and space to yourself.

TakeTwoOfThat · 15/11/2018 14:01

@AcrossthePond55 I know this is just awful to go through. I'm considering a contact centre now as I can't deal with him anymore. This is just a smack in my face. He left me to get another woman pregnant who apparently told him she couldn't get pregnant and she's keeping it. Now he's declaring his love for me and wants me back, she even told him to divorce me and marry her. I honestly just want to rebuild my life now, I'm done with this drama I didn't deserve this. What she doesnt realise is this whole time he was telling me he still wanted a future with me. He can roll in his mess now, he has 5 kids off me to support and one off her, and he'll also have to deal with the fact she has kids to 2 different fathers already so this will be her 3rd and he's gone and put another woman through more difficulties. He disgusts me

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AcrossthePond55 · 15/11/2018 16:13

I'm done with this drama I didn't deserve this Take this as your new mantra!

I think the contact centre is a good idea. And a claim through CMS (if not done already). The less contact you have with him the better.

If you must maintain contact because of child access, you could block him on everything, and get a new 'dedicated' email just for him, or a pay-go phone. Then possibly a friend/relative could check them for you. I did this for a BFF years ago as her ex was sending her the most vile messages and it got to the point where she just couldn't bear seeing them. I read them, passed on what she needed to know about access, the divorce, etc and kept the rest to myself. If you don't have someone to do that, at least you'd be able to pick and choose the time to look at them, a time when you're feeling a bit stronger (or angrier!).

TakeTwoOfThat · 15/11/2018 18:23

I will remember that mantra! I am going to set up a dedicated email address for him, I think I need to really cut ties, I feel really agitated right now and my mind can't settle. I have rang womans aid a few times this month just for support and wanted to ring them tonight so you recon it's ok to ring them again? I'm waiting on a list for an outreach worker but I'm Struggling mentally after this news, just as I though I was getting on ok

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SandyY2K · 15/11/2018 19:52

You deserve better than this. He's made his bed. He knew she was pregnant...Let him sort his life out.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/11/2018 20:28

I've always felt that if doing a thing makes you feel better and it's not causing a problem for anyone, then do it.

It isn't going to hurt WA to get another call from you and it will make you feel better. Do it.

Remember that this is going to be hills and valleys for awhile. And there will be times when just as you think it's behind you, he'll do something idiotic. But as time passes you will gather perspective, strength, and determination, and before long he'll be no more to you than that annoying mosquito that buzzes round your head in the dark. You can't completely get rid of the annoyance, but eventually they go away.

TakeTwoOfThat · 15/11/2018 21:04

Thanks again. I'm having a panic attack, my heart is racing I'm worried because I slept with him at the beginning when he left and he has now got her pregnant I'm worried he could have passed something on to me. I'm getting checked on Monday but it's so hard to anywhere with a toddler and I'll have to take him. Can't believe hes done alll of This. But at least I know the truth And can move on with my life now.

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thequeenoftarts · 15/11/2018 21:54

Your ex is a cunt, prick and an arsehole. He is the reason Ann Summers is popular for vibrators. Take your life back, get your maintenance sorted out, only allow him see the kids at times that suit you. No more in the house, no more baiting you telling you if you are good you can have...Look in the mirror my lovely and see what he has lost, and learn this mantra off by heart, if only he know what he has lost, his loss, my gain.
Std check is no different to a smear and sweet god all mine came to mine lol ...then get a fella to be in the house next time wankerbreath calls by... When he asks tell him oh just my friend, tell the kids the same, Mammy's friend,, Hire a babysitter, old enough not to answer the door at night, new locks or bolts on all doors and get out there. Stop depending on wanker features for anything and your life will start again.

Love n hugs xxxx

TakeTwoOfThat · 22/12/2018 15:53

Is it not normal for me to still be feeling angry? After everything I'm just so angry. It's been nearly 7 months but every time I think of the fact he left me and then started a new relationship pretty much straight away, introduced my kids to her and said she was 'just a friend' and then tell me she's pregnant has just destroyed me and I feel a great sense of resentment. I want to get over this but I do worry for my future. I'm having one of those days I suppose. Xmas isn't happening this year in my house either because all this happened I've just not had the time or money to prepare anything. Feeling rather low

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flippityfloppity · 01/01/2019 22:41

Honestly it's quite understandable you're struggling to move past it. After seven months I would pop to the gp and asked to be referred for some help processing it with a counsellor so you can move forward. But I think most people would find it hard to just shrug this off and it is ok to ask for help.

MissLanesAmericanCousin · 02/01/2019 00:08

Yes! Taketwo, he is being a sadistic evil bastard! AngryDo not let him come and go as he pleases and make sure that ALL of his shit is out of the house! He cannot have it both ways! He's taking you for a chump. Dig your heels in and find your anger and strength! You can do this!!!!!

TakeTwo0fThat · 07/02/2019 22:10

Hey everyone
Thought I would update my thread.
So I was doing fine but there are days I feel like I'm going back to where I was at the beginning. I found out that she wanted to be married to him by March this year he left me in June which gives it 8.5 months in them being together before getting married who does that? And it takes 12 months for us to get a divorce so how the hell would she manage that?
It just upsets me, it shouldn't but seems like I was replaced that quick that our marriage meant nothing that she wanted to be his wife just like that. Then he told me the baby is a boy as she had her scan, and for some reason I've non stopped cried, it sounds silly, you all probably will think I'm silly but I gave him his first and only boy ( our other children ate girls) and I feel like she's just come along a couple of months into a relationship with him and he gives her a boy. He told me he never wanted anymore children. Sorry I just needed to rant as I'm confused as to why I'm so upset.

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