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Being the other woman/conniving in deception/dropping the trapdoor

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Smudge100 · 09/06/2018 20:08

Six years ago I came home from work to find my then husband had thoughtfully changed the locks on the house before eloping with the woman down the road. When I finally gained entry, I discovered that they had everything useful and even my poor dog.

It’s a common enough story. However, the lady in question was someone I felt close to. She had successfully posed as a friend to both of us, so successfully in fact that I never had an inkling that she had having an affair with my husband for eighteen months. I was later to learn that they had planned their departure to coincide with her reaching pensionable age (at 50, I might add), so that they could both retire to the area where my then husband and I had for years planned to spend our twilight years. Every detail had been carefully put in place. I was left to discover over the ensuing few months not only how methodical and comprehensive their planning had been, but how heavily it had relied upon my ignorance of it. I still struggle with the scale of that duplicity and the extent of my own wilful blindness.

In the intervening years I have given considerable thought to the steely nerves and the sheer brazenness it must have taken for her to maintain that equaniminous demeanour of unruffled nonchalance whilst pursuing a project that she knew would rob me not just of my future, but my faith in human nature and in my own judgement. I’m not suggesting that she owed me a duty of loyalty – far from it - she owed me much less than my equally devious ex-husband. But strangely, I have actually wondered more about her role in it than his. My question is not: have you ever been the Other Woman? There have been plenty of threads in that particular well-worn vein, though I certainly wouldn’t want to discourage anyone with that particular experience from posting, in fact I’d be very interested to hear your point of view. It is however rather, have you ever been a party to the carefully-planned and protracted deception of a third party, particularly someone you knew well? If so, why? Was it for personal gain? Did you despise your victim? Feel they deserved what they got? Ever feel a tinsy bit guilty or the need to justify/rationalise it to yourself? What were your motives exactly? I’m not here to judge anyone, I’m long beyong that now, I’m just still curious about the psychological dynmamic of cheating, the whole process of misleading, placating, dissembling before another person, of not being yourself, of not showing your true face and the strain that places, if any, on the person practising deception. Please feel free to be brutally honest. If only they had been.

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nomoreheroesanymore · 21/06/2018 19:47

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe

Ha yes! I remember that one. Ankle chains were for tarts. Hmm. Must admit I did rebel and get one during my hippy teens.

Didn't do me any harm Grin

AynRandTheObjectivist · 21/06/2018 19:49

God I love ankle straps.

Headupshouldersback · 21/06/2018 19:50

Aynrand
It’s you isn’t it? Julie from accounts ? 😂

AynRandTheObjectivist · 21/06/2018 20:02

Is that all you've got?

AynRandTheObjectivist · 21/06/2018 20:04

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PhonixK · 21/06/2018 20:05

I have a very similar story.

My best friend of 12 years and husband of 9 (together 11) got into a relationship 3 weeks after he left me. Doesn't matter how much they try to say nothing happened before then in my eyes it did.

Not only was my best friend my husband and hers were best friends and worked together. All our children are friends.

She would always tell me to leave my toxic husband he was controlling and never gave me money, was horrible to the kids, I was happier without him. (His job took him away for months at a time, military) he made me a different person. The list is endless of what she would whisper in my ear.

He hated her, hates her kids because they always ganged up on my little boy. Hated how she had No control over her kids. Called her a bad mum, lazy, disgusting, her house stinks, she's a mess.

Suddenly there's none of that. They are in a serious relationship and I need to get use to my kids sleeping there because it's their second home.

I'd like to point out we've only been separated since March. How can you be in serious relationship after 13 weeks of being with the person you despised?

I don't know how anyone can do that to a person. The betrayal and hurt, it destroys a person and makes that person so insecure and think horrible things about themselves.

I will say I'm more hurt by her because she was my best friend. The person I was crying to when my husband left me the person who was giving me advice, and all along she was with my husband. Her loyalties should have been with me like any other best friend.

I understand that some women never know they are the OW until the wife confronts them or they just find out and that's not their fault, the fault lays with the husband. These women though who know they are the OW and are happy to destroy a relationship are scum. I don't care if I offend anyone. I don't care how much they say I was the single one I could do what I want. Yeah you can but there are lines you do not cross and you do not sleep or have an affair with a man who has a partner or wife, it's low and disgusting.

Do they ever think what it would feel like if they were at home looking after the kids and cleaning the house after a day at work, wondering where her husband is? Can they not understand the soul destroying pain they both put that woman through? How anyone male or female can do that to another person is beyond me. They should all be ashamed of themselves and they should all hand their heads in shame

AynRandTheObjectivist · 21/06/2018 20:08

That's a terrible story, Phonix. I'm so sorry.

nomoreheroesanymore · 21/06/2018 20:11

@PhonixK

I don't think anyone would dispute your feelings. You are completely entitled to them and more besides. So sorry this happened to you.

PhonixK · 21/06/2018 20:16

Thank you, I'm getting there slowly but it still enrages me when I know she's always around them. I'm not reacting anymore though. That's what they want

AynRandTheObjectivist · 21/06/2018 21:05

I know I've been saying that affairs aren't always the worst things in the world etc, but there does sometimes come an affair story that is so cold, shocking and cruel that it makes you wonder about humanity.

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