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Lets have a bit of Summer Lovin' - Dating Thread 133!

999 replies

Jaxinthebox · 03/05/2018 07:29

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread

And a reminder - you don't know them until you know them!

OP posts:
Xiolablueviolet · 01/06/2018 16:33

As literary devil said. Don't give chances if the phone call is shit. It won't improve.

I often throw in a few innocent sounding things to see what response I get. Asking about their kids is usually very telling. If they launch into a tirade about the ex you know what you're dealing with. Etc.

LiteraryDevil1 · 01/06/2018 16:47

Xiola please can you give some more examples of what you ask?
I was chatting to a guy who obviously wasn't close to his kids who were about 19 and 21 and he didn't sound like he'd made an effort to keep contact going. Seemed his attitude was a shrug of oh well it's n longer cool to be with dad and I'm ok with that. He only lived 50 mins away and his kids were driving so no excuses to only see them "sometimes"

meowimacat · 01/06/2018 16:53

Met Bumble boy for a second 'date' - just a quick coffee as we both had to get back to work. We get on well, and can chat for hours. I don't know if there's that much in common between us though, and I'm not wanting to rip his clothes off. But he's decent and treats me well. Will see him again, just need to make sure I don't settle into something just because I can.

@tictactic Hey lovely, glad to see you getting back into OLD. I would be open and say that for a first date you don't do alcohol so if he wants to meet, he can meet you during the day for coffee so he can get home ok. Any further pressure I would just block him/tell him you're not interested in a one night stand. To be honest he's probably testing to see what he can get, as a lot of this guys do. Very offputting. I would definitely have a time to leave on the date, think of an excuse in advance and even tell him in advance that you have to leave at X time. That way whether it's going good or bad you can go and if you want to see him again you can. I was stuck on a 6 hour date with a guy who was an alcoholic and it was because I had told him I was free all day so he kept buying drinks. Ughh. Absolutely agree with @LiteraryDevil with going with your gut. My gut for that alcoholic guy was totally right but I decided to not listen to it and go for the sake of it.

Xiolablueviolet · 01/06/2018 17:10

I replied to you on that thread. A lot didn't agree with me but my son is 19 (I am 37) and he still sees his dad at least once a week and they speak on the phone. From experience I personally wouldn't get involved with someone who had what I consider to be a poor relationship with their kids. It's always always for a reason and not a good one. Fair enough they don't see each other face to face but I would expect phone or email or text at least really. But we judge everything by our own standards and that is mine. Other people are different.

The calls? I always start relaxed and happy, how are you kind of things. Ask about their lives in the main. How their day was. This usually gives you follow up questions to ask. Without sounding like an interrogater obviously. Interested. Not Sherlock Holmes. Just breezy interested.

An example this week. Guy who was interested in the theatre, arts and all my kind of stuff. was good on email. Took my number. Text me to ask when he could call me. All good so far - respect and boundaries.

Phone call - I always have their profile up when they call. He had photos of cats. So I asked about the cats. He then proceeded to tell me all about said cats and how they were his babies etc etc. So I asked how he managed to go away on holiday? He doesn't. Was the answer. He won't leave them.
I am up for weekend breaks etc etc. This means him and I are incompatible for the long term. So I won't take it further. He's not a bad person, just not for me. Had I met him instead, it could have been a while before this all came to light given weekends away don't usually happen until a proper relationship is in place.

I ask about their job, their kids, hobbies. Just a friendly conversation for up to half an hour max. But its always very revealing. The friendly happy interested vibe relaxes them. So they open up and talk. And then I listen. Very carefully.

There is no set routine but after a few you just get better at it and what you are listening for. You need them to relax first though.

Iwouldmarrythebeast · 01/06/2018 17:12

Is it ok to block someone who I went on one date with? He was ok but he keeps texting me and I did reply to a few of his texts but I’m not interested in friendship or anything else with him

Tictactic · 01/06/2018 17:13

Thanks Literary. I won't spend too much. huge red flag is the alcohol. perhaps he thinks he can get me pissed and he'll have his way. No chance!

I hint controlling nature too. Can spot it from a mile. He sounds like the Yorkshire ripper.. really. feel like turning up in a public place of course just out of curiosity. I don't know, perhaps I'll decide tomorrow

Tictactic · 01/06/2018 17:15

@iwouldmarry. I see a few of us on the NC thread are now on here! Perhaps be upfront, say it's not for you and be kind and leave it.

LiteraryDevil1 · 01/06/2018 17:17

Tictactic oh yes, the alcohol. Definitely don't go.

RunsforCake14 · 01/06/2018 17:21

Iwouldmarry if you've told him you're not interested and he continues to text you, then just block him.

Tictac don't waste your time meeting him. If it doesn't seem right now then meeting in person is unlikely to improve things.

RunsforCake14 · 01/06/2018 17:25

I starting to feel a bit paranoid.
I get blocked on Match by someone I've had no contact with.
No one replies to any messages on Match or POF. Or sends me a message. It's been weeks since I've received any messages.
I've been on Tinder for 5 days and had 1 match despite swiping right on about 90% of the men (just to see who matches!)
I feel like I've become invisible!

Tictactic · 01/06/2018 17:27

I can't think of any other reason him keep mentioning alcohol. It's off putting and he sounds quite immature. In fact, he's quite creepy. Questioning me about different things..
I'm the plus side I am out tonight with a friend, you never know might not need OLD

Xiolablueviolet · 01/06/2018 17:44

Runs- have you tried changing your photos and profile around a bit?

I have 3 or 4 pictures and a very short profile. I change the photos every 6 weeks or so.

RunsforCake14 · 01/06/2018 17:58

Xiola done all that. I get lots of views but no interest otherwise

Xiolablueviolet · 01/06/2018 18:06

Have you tried singles events? A couple of my friends and i have membership to a dating agency that also runs events, they can be quite good. Gets you out and doing things etc. I'm near London and there are a few similar companies that run them.

I don't know what you're looking for though, that may not appeal...

RunsforCake14 · 01/06/2018 18:37

I've looked at singles events and there's not much happening around me. Also I haven't seen one that costs less than about £40 which is too expensive for me when I have to add childcare on top.

I'm just not a "good catch". I'm 50 with kids still at home. The men who are like me, fit, active, busy with life, want a younger woman. The older men I've met have given up and are ready to retire to their armchair in front of the TV.

lookingforbutterflies · 01/06/2018 18:39

@RunsforCake14 I'm mid 30's, changed my profile at the weekend and have had nothing except a match from someone I sort of know in real life (Mr Traveller) and that's gone no where.

I'm blaming the World Cup!!!

Xiolablueviolet · 01/06/2018 18:45

One of my good friends is 63 and has similar issues although no kids at home. More the ones she gets are not good enough and acting like old people. So she went younger. Works for her quite well. Maybe you might try that instead.
I have another friend, 60, met a guy through an agency. She did have to pay quite a bit in fees and it did take about a year but she got a very good one in the end. I never see her. She's always on holiday.

I think you just have to keep going and not let it get you down. We all have barren seasons where it looks as though nothing is growing but it always is.

TomHardysBitontheside · 01/06/2018 18:59

Runs I'm 49 with teenagers at home, but I do generally find people who will chat. My profile lists my interests, with specific examples of bands and films. I also add a bit of humour, saying things like "I can parallel park". I have 4-5 photos. I often make the first move, I've stopped waiting.

I joined OKC and have met some interesting people. Many of them are attached though, which seems common for this site and it's not my thing. One coffee date lined up though with Mr American next week.

Iwouldmarrythebeast · 01/06/2018 19:15

@ tictactic I’m a bit rubbish at telling people i’m not interested. A few years ago, I went on a date with a man who sent me the most awful message back when I thanked him for the coffee but I then said I didn’t think we were compatible.

LiteraryDevil1 · 01/06/2018 19:19

I'm 41 with primary/nursery age kids at home, 3 of them. I've almost given up. Maybe I should go younger. My settings are set from 36-46. All the young end of that spectrum look like lads lads out drinking every weekend or well into their hobbies so essentially no time for a relationship. The older ones are old. In every way. I'm pretty young and feisty for my age and most people peg me as mid 30s so blokes even a few years older than me look about 10 years older and I feel like I'd be dating my dad or uncle or similar. Yuck.

LiteraryDevil1 · 01/06/2018 19:23

Tom my profile is very full and states my interests, films, music, books, activities I like etc. I also make the first move 99.9% of the time. Lots of profiles aren't active which really annoys me as they should be deleted by the site when the subscription ends. I had one first move of someone who looked like Dennis Thatcher Confused Best combover is ever seen!

Iwouldmarrythebeast · 01/06/2018 19:23

@ Literary devil - go younger, they respond much quicker and more proactive in setting up dates and answering texts.

LiteraryDevil1 · 01/06/2018 19:23

I would how much younger??

RunsforCake14 · 01/06/2018 19:26

Xiola the guy I was seeing last year was 8 years younger than me. The one before that was 5 years younger. I had much more in common with them than the men I meet who are 50+.
My Match subscription runs out at the end of the month so I might just put OLD on hold until after the summer hols.

TomHardy I had no problem getting people to chat when I was 48 or 49. But I'm noticing a big difference now I'm 50.
On Match you can specify an age range and so many men (even those in their 50's) have a cut off at 49.
OKC didn't work for me. It gave me a choice of 3 men and that was it. I lasted a couple of weeks to see if it improved but nothing!

lookingfor World Cup Grin I suspect you're probably right there.

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