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I cheated and have lost everything I ever wanted

173 replies

Gatsby86 · 26/12/2017 22:34

I am male. I didn't really know where to go on the internet to post this. A normal response on a male orientated forum is 'man up' or 'have sex with 10 others and then come back,' whereas female orientated forums assume I am the devil incarnate; and I really don't think that is true.

5 years ago I met a truly amazing girl; completely not what I would have said I was looking for in a woman, but I knew as soon as I met her that she was what I wanted. We lived together for 3 years and the idea of marriage and kids were regularly discussed. We were great together; I can count on one hand the number of disagreements we had and we made each other better people. I got a job in and moved to London despite really not being a fan of the place because she could advance her career better there. For her birthday, I spoke to her boss and arranged time to be booked off from her job and surprised her by taking her away to Verona and Venice.

On NYE last year, she did something that really hurt me. Then, in January she had an operation on her leg and a month off work to recover. At the time I was working 14 hour days. I tried to help as much as I could I really did, but I just didn't have the energy to come back after that much work and then cook/clean/look after her. I started to resent her because I felt she could have been doing some of this stuff herself as she was simply spending all day watching TV. Her mum then criticised me for not looking after her and so she decided to go home for a week where her parents could look after her. I am not saying all this to negate what I did, I am simply trying to explain how I ended up where I did. During the week that she was away, I had sex with another girl. It was a completely one off event, not enjoyable, and I am mortified that I did it; but a week later she found a message on my phone and asked me about, so I told her. I can honestly say it was a mistake that I would give anything to take it back. I adore this woman.

She left that night and stayed at a friends house. We talked for a few hours the next night, both of us in tears. And then, she told her parents. I have not spoken to them since, but her words were that they told her if she stayed with me that they would cut her off, that she wasn't thinking straight, that forgiving me would make her 'morally bankrupt' and that I am not the type of man they would give her away too. However, things largely continued as they were and it seemed she was trying to forgive me. We remained living together, we would do couples things together as normal, even sex. Every 3-4 weeks she would go home to her parents and come back in bits from them ranting at her all weekend. Apparently, the fact they spent all weekend shouting at her was all my fault. I tried to remain impartial and avoid criticising them; I wanted her to choose me rather than be manipulated in to it. But inside I was seething.

Then one day in May she told me she was leaving the flat. I was devastated and completely broke down when I saw she had moved all her stuff out. 2 weeks later, we started talking again. We agreed to date and see where things went. She said she didn't know what she wanted and I found it very hard to date her as a normal person which put a ridiculous strain on the whole thing I think. We both had a holiday period in August, she told me she loved me before we parted but then afterwards said that she doesn't want 'us' anymore. I tried to tell her how I felt but to no avail. There's plenty more stuff left unsaid in this account, but this is already becoming a novella...

She has told me that shes moved on, but how you move on from a 5 year relationship in a couple of months I don't know. She has told me that her life is better without any reminders of what happened, so I feel she is partly just trying to bury and forget what happened, rather than 'move on'. It irks me that part of her rationale was 'what would other people be thinking if we were to get married,' as if other peoples opinions should matter if we are happy. She has been seeing someone else but, for a couple of reasons, I think it is just a rebound relationship in order to improve her confidence with someone she feels better than.

I've tried to move on and have dated other women over the last few months, but none of them make me feel how she made me feel. To be honest, I don't think anyone else ever will. Its been 4 months now and I hurt so much. I sat for hours in a public park crying last week and its not the first time that's happened. I regularly burst in to tears at work, on the train or when at home. My friends are mostly guys, so I don't feel I have anyone I can talk to. Most of all, it is driving me absolutely insane knowing that I didn't lose her because of some external uncontrollable reason but because of something that I did, that was completely meaningless. I know that what I did was vile, believe me I hate myself for it, and I would give anything to undo it.

OP posts:
PurpleDaisies · 26/12/2017 22:38

During the week that she was away, I had sex with another girl.

That’s the only part of your long relationship history that’s relevant. You cheated. She dumped you.

You need to find a way to move on with your life and not be so arrogant as to assume she hadn’t already moved on with hers.

rainbowskittles · 26/12/2017 22:39

What was the thing she did that hurt you?

cestlavielife · 26/12/2017 22:39

Go to gp
You sound depressed

Get some counselling
Move on

You will always be the person who cheated to her and her family
It s too late for you and her

Move on
Learn from your mistake
Try and be a better person next time.

PurpleDaisies · 26/12/2017 22:39

What was the thing she did that hurt you?

Why is that relevant?

midnightmisssuki · 26/12/2017 22:44

you cheated - she moved on. You have to now. Sorry you are hurting, but that's a direct result of what you did. Get some counselling, speak to friends, try and think of other things. Try and learn from your mistake for next time. Leave her be - she has to move on too.

KarmaStar · 26/12/2017 22:44

Hi OP
She said she has moved on and you must accept what she wants.whether or not she is on the rebound is irrelevant.
Accept that she has made her decision and begin to rebuild your life.
Keep busy,see friends,go to the gym or other hobbies,focus on your life.
You have learnt a hard lesson and when,as you surely will even though it doesn't seem possible now,you fall in love again,you will treasure and respect her and not be unfaithful.
Hanging on waiting for her to return is doing you no good whatsoever.
Tough love I know but you must move on.

Anasnake · 26/12/2017 22:44

You cheated, you betrayed her in the worst possible way. This is the consequence.

DontFuckingSayIt · 26/12/2017 22:45

If she cheated on you, you either leave or you draw a line under it. It's not a licence to fuck another woman.

NSEA · 26/12/2017 22:47

You need some counselling and you need to forgive yourself

You cheated because you were unhappy and she couldn’t stay with you because that makes her unhappy.

Forgive yourself, it’s not worth beating yourself up about. You will one day meet someone you wouldn’t ever cheat on.

Somerville · 26/12/2017 22:48

You need to try to stop obsessing about your ex girlfriend.
You need to concentrate on maturing as a person before your next serious relationship - a way to do this can be to focus on helping others, rather than on yourself, such as voluntary work.
And most importantly you need to make some better friends - the emotions of a relationship ending is exactly the wort of thing that you should be able to discuss with friends, whatever their sex.
Finally, please don't exacerbate what you've put your ex girlfriend through by the added discourteousy of deciding she doesn't think and feel what she claims to think and feel.

TheFSMisreal · 26/12/2017 22:48

You cheated, this is your punishment. Deal with it.

RainyApril · 26/12/2017 22:48

I am sorry you're hurting but, speaking as someone who has been in your gf's position, I think I can guarantee that she was hurt more.

I won't bore you by telling you how absolutely heartbroken I was to learn that the person I loved most in the world had slept with someone else, or about the images and questions that filled my head constantly.

Like your gf I tried to forgive him and knew he was genuinely sorry but I couldn't trust him, and what we had together no longer felt special or magical. He was no longer my hero, but someone weak and pathetic. I knew I'd spend the rest of my life waiting for him to do it again, feeling suspicious every time he went out and wondering about that other woman.

It took me awhile because of dc and a long marriage but in your gf's shoes I would have gone immediately. Her parents aren't meddling, they're protecting their dd and id do the same. She has gone and is trying to move on. She may miss you, she may regret your lost shared future, but she is strong enough to walk away and good for her.

You'll survive, people always survive heartbreak, and you've learnt a strong lesson.

Farontothemaddingcrowd · 26/12/2017 22:51

You cheated. That doesn't make you the devil incarnate, but it does mean that this tale of thwarted passion you're trying to spin doesn't quite ring true. Forgive the mixed metaphors.
You are fixating on this girl because you want to undo what you did. You can't. And if it had been perfect, you wouldn't have done it.
Be honest with yourself. If she took you back, you'd never respect her in the same way. And she's listening to her family because they are confirming the doubts she already had.
This isn't Romeo and Juliet. Which didn't end too well either.
Move on. No judgement here, just move on.

MotherCupboard · 26/12/2017 22:52

You don't adore her that much if you can cheat on her so easily.

Cricrichan · 26/12/2017 22:53

The problem is that even if it meant nothing to you and even if she does still love you, she can no longer trust you. She was gone for a week because she was off work recovering from surgery and you were too busy to help her. Not too busy to have sex with another girl though. So when she needed you, you didn't take a bit of time out from your job or get a cleaner in, you made it so she had to go to her parents for support and then you end up with another girl. If she were my daughter I'd not want you anywhere near her either.

soconfusedanditsxmas · 26/12/2017 22:53

How did she "just move on" after 5 yr rship? How do you just cheat in a 5 yr rship?!

TheSameCoin · 26/12/2017 22:54

I’m sorry that you’re so unhappy but the bottom line is that this is entirely your doing. You cheated and you cannot undo it. It’s a hard lesson to learn. You need to move on now, as she has done. What she does now or with whom is no longer your concern. I’m sure you will find someone else eventually- and when you do, you will not cheat again.

deckoff · 26/12/2017 22:54

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Fairenuff · 26/12/2017 22:55

Why did you make that decision to cheat on her?

Coolaschmoola · 26/12/2017 22:55

'She has told me that shes moved on, but how you move on from a 5 year relationship in a couple of months I don't know.'

How do you have sex with someone else when you have been with someone for five years and are allegedly in love with them?

You broke the relationship beyond repair. You don't get to question how someone can move on - that was the only option she had.

You CHOSE to have sex with someone else. You didn't even respect her enough to tell her until you got caught out.

Her parents know she deserves better. She knows it too. You need to accept that you destroyed your relationship and leave her alone. She deserves better, she deserves to be left alone to move on and find someone who won't cheat on her... Seriously, you've done enough damage - stop trying to analyse her choices or find a way back. She deserves better.

As for you? You have got exactly what you deserve.

Foobarjar · 26/12/2017 22:59

I'm sorry you're hurting. You've owned up to your mistake but it doesn't fix it.

You don't know, if you hadn't have cheated, that the same thing wouldn't have happened. She's moved on. Whether it was from your actions or not.

Try and move on. You will be happy again. This is a big life lesson. Best of luck.

Be3Al2SiO36 · 26/12/2017 23:01

Are you in love with the idea of her, but not her? You cheated for a reason.

RhinoGirl · 26/12/2017 23:03

You’re reaping what you sow now, OP. What you did, she can’t forgive. She’s moved on & now you have to too.

But after she has been gone a week? If my partner after 5 years did this, I would have a hell of a lot of questions and I would not be very forgiving!

Overthehillsandfaraway8 · 26/12/2017 23:08

I am also curious as to what she did that hurt you, because I wonder if you cheated because you were angry. That doesn't excuse it of course.

I actually feel very sorry for you. I would try your best to rebuild your life, move away and get another job if that's possible, start again. Perhaps your ex will realise she wants you back, but perhaps she won't . You can't live your life waiting and wanting and beating yourself up. Perhaps she really isn't the love of your life? It sounds as though things were starting to unravel anyway. It is really hard to be where you are, but living in the past and punishing yourself will not help anyone. Get some good therapy and start to move on with your life, doing new things with new people perhaps, not repeating old patterns.

I hope you find happiness in the future.

WhendoIgetadayoff · 26/12/2017 23:08

You cheated. when she was recovering from an operation she wasn’t living with you and you took advantage of that to sleep with someone else . She took several months trying to see if she could forgive and continue in relationship and clearly couldn’t.
Now she’s found someone else and hopefully he won’t cheat on her and she can be happy.
Good for her. Now you need to do same and learn that cheating on people when you’re in committed relationship isn’t ok. And move on. If you’re depressed seek medical advice.
I’m assuming you’re proper grown ups so the woman - not girl - wants a man who can be faithful. It’s not much to ask.

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