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something bad just happened

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frozenbaubles · 21/12/2017 19:31

My husband has just drew his hand back into a fist as if to punch me. He didn't, he moved away, but I am holding my 7 month old daughter. This has never happened before.

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Fluffysparks · 21/12/2017 21:37

Wasn’t OP’s DH violent first? Standing over someone shouting at vulnerable baby ears with no escape is very very unacceptable and aggressive, and even the most calm of people would have pushed him away, surely?

frozenbaubles · 21/12/2017 21:38

We had sex for the first time in a very long time last night, probably only the second time since I gave birth. Everything was great, apart from the comments that he would now be waiting another six months for sex. He pesters me a lot about it.

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PurpleDaisies · 21/12/2017 21:40

I'm not excusing anything.

You’ve totally invented sleep deprivation as an excuse for him threatening to punch her.

He shouted at her. He DIDN'T hit her. Stop tagging every man as an abuser.

If my husband threatened to punch me in the manner the op described, I’d be out. Not every man is an abuser but this one in particular sounds horrible.

Brazenhussy0 · 21/12/2017 21:40

He is slowly but surely losing his patience with my daughter. She doesn't always settle well at night and has to be comforted and he doesn't like this.
When she woke up crying I went to settle her, and was pushed away and told you won't stop me from getting her.

This is extremely worrying^

OP, forget analysing the 'whys' for now. You need to make sure you and your DD are safe first and foremost.

GertrudeCB · 21/12/2017 21:40

Op I'm really concerned by his words about you wanted him to hit you. He is giving himself permission to go further next time. I have had direct experience of DV, please get you and your DD somewhere safe or make a plan to do so.

Chippyway · 21/12/2017 21:42

Sorry, for your daughters sake I don’t understand why you’d want to be in the same house as this man?

Why wouldn’t you leave?

bastardkitty · 21/12/2017 21:43

You are describing escalating abuse OP. You should call the police and please plan to get away. Him saying you want him to hit you shows just how much he is losing control and how much anger he feels towards you. It's really not okay.

GoReylo · 21/12/2017 21:44

He showed you that he wanted to punch you, and while you were holding a baby which is an extra layer of disgusting.

It would be a very good idea to arrange to leave now, before something really does happen. When men get away with this stuff once, it's a boundary crossed. I wouldn't risk staying.

CriticalMass · 21/12/2017 21:45

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Lovemusic33 · 21/12/2017 21:46

OP, read your own posts back to yourself and think ‘if this was a friend writing this, what advice would you give?’.

He sounds controlling, he sounds like he has a temper (he might not have hit you this time but next time he might), he sounds jealous that you spend time settling your daughter?

I suffer from anxiety, my exh made my anxiety ten times worse, it took me years to realise that he had turned me into a nervous wreck, when he left my life got so much more easier and I could raise my children without the fear of upsetting him.

The person you love should not make you feel scared and should not dictate how you settle your child, and they should never raise a fist to you.

GertrudeCB · 21/12/2017 21:47

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frozenbaubles · 21/12/2017 21:48

Critical thanks for that. I think I'll leave the thread now. My daughter was born way too early and spent a long time in hospital and came home on oxygen. I have (diagnosed) post natal depression and anxiety and am on prescribed medication. My daughter has a lot of needs and a sex life unfortunately doesn't come at the top of my list at the moment.

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RunningOutOfCharge · 21/12/2017 21:51

Op you need to get out

He's losing patience with a baby

I think she deserves better than a time bomb of a father waiting to snap and harm her

GertrudeCB · 21/12/2017 21:51

Op please stay safe and read the links MNHQ put onFlowers

frozenbaubles · 21/12/2017 21:52

Lovemusic what you are saying really hits home. My anxiety is fine all day and then when he gets home from work, I'm tense. Immediately. And he is very jealous of me and my daughter. He was settling her once but she was screaming and screaming and wouldn't stop and he handed her to me and she stopped. He was not pleased. He moans about all the things he misses out on when he's at work but when he's home, all he does is sit on his phone.

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KurriKurri · 21/12/2017 21:52

I'm not excusing anything. He shouted at her. He DIDN'T hit her. Stop tagging every man as an abuser. He scared her. THAT needs discussed in a calmer environment, This is not, for sure, a marriage that is beyond saving. And that is pretty much what you are all advocating.

Excusing is exactly what you are doing. He trapped her on the sofa so she couldn;t get away and shouted in her face she pushed him away and he raised his fist as if to hit her. He stopped THIS TIME. He has since tried to blame her for his aggression - she 'wanted him to punch her.'
This is how physical abuse starts - it never gets better it only gets worse. Normal people do not ever raise their fists to another person, particularly not someone who is holding a small baby. Next time he may not stop himself, next time he may go through with it, he may punch the OP and he may punch the baby if she happens to be in the way.
In your view she should wait for that to happen before taking any action.

All the signs are there of an aggressive abusive man. I know from experience it gets worse, each time a bit more threatening until you are too frightened to say anything or do anything that may make him kick off.

And you are saying 'aah he's sleep deprived, give him a break' - that is totally sickening and disgusting. It isn't OK to threaten violence, or to scare people - that is abusive behaviour. Shouting in someone's face is abusive behaviour. Your ignorance is astounding.

Contact the police OP. They will assess your level of risk far more effectively than an internet victim blamer, and they will give you advice and help. In my case once I had made a call they came out within hour, spent a long time talking to me and going through all his behaviour some of which I hadn;t even realised were classic signs of an abuser. They then had his behaviour on record and told me if I called they would come straight away having assessed me as at risk.

GertrudeCB · 21/12/2017 21:52

LoverofCake WTF ????

bastardkitty · 21/12/2017 21:52

Please FFS OP just ignore Critical until it is deleted.

irishe · 21/12/2017 21:53

"His needs were real" honestly I have heard it all now. This is the stuff of handmaidens nightmare territory.

Nobody dies from lack of sex.

KurriKurri · 21/12/2017 21:54

OP please stay if it is helpful - the vast majority of people are trying to support you, the people talking total shit are names I recognise from going onto every thread and trying to be goady. Ignore them.

frozenbaubles · 21/12/2017 21:54

LoverOfCake yes. I didn't know where else to turn and wanted someone, anyone to talk to. Why is that so wrong?

I know everyone is saying to leave, yes i could leave. But he wouldn't let me leave without my daughter and I don't anything to happen to her if he's trying to force me to stay when she's in my arms. I am rambling I don't even know what to say

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tararabumdeay · 21/12/2017 21:55

This is wrong! The woman felt threatened and was frightened. 'I made sure he had his needs seen to' is allowing the husband's horrible behaviour.

If MN was about the first time I was pushed and kicked around the kitchen in front of my children (2000) I probably wouldn't be here now resenting every third breath he takes. It finally stopped about six years ago when I stopped caring - which is not a situation I'm proud of.

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