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Husband has has private lap dances...

342 replies

msevs · 08/12/2017 10:36

...and lied. I found out last Sunday after a weekend away with his mates, when a text came through on his phone. I glanced at it and it was from one of the guys with the words ‘strip club’ in it. I confronted him about it and he said some of the other guys went, but he didn’t. I didn’t believe him, he then said he had gone in but that was it. I told him to stop lying, and he then said “well you have to have a dance there, don’t you”. So basically it turns out he paid for a private dance, and not just this once, but on three different occasions. First time was Christmas trip last year, two months after the birth of our second child.

To make matters worse, we were only married a month ago. Three weeks later and he’s paying a woman to strip naked for him! I feel so betrayed. I heard all the excuses, he was drunk, it was peer pressure, he didn’t enjoy it. I don’t believe him, since he’s been three times. He told me he’d never have a ‘proper’ affair, as if I’m supposed to be grateful. He didn’t see this as a problem because it was a transaction. He did apologise and said he wouldn’t do it again, but this is only because I found out, otherwise I know he would just have continued doing it.

I feel so betrayed. I also feel like such a mug, I bet him and his mates have had a good laugh at the fact that I’ve been kept in the dark. He just isn’t the man I thought I married.

I don’t know why I’m posting. I just don’t know where to go from here. I was really looking forward to this Christmas as it was going to be our first Christmas as a married couple, but now I don’t even want to look at him Sad

OP posts:
Blodplod · 08/12/2017 21:41

Not bitter, we’ve just got a different opinion to you. Sleep tight

Offred · 08/12/2017 21:42

Well... you walked right into that one I set up for you rover...

No, criticising ladette culture and talking about bad experiences with women isn’t woman hating (though the comment re being right to never date is sailing close to the wind)... just like criticising toxic masculinity and talking about bad experiences with men isn’t manhating....

You are not rational...

Offred · 08/12/2017 21:47

And btw the post before your sarcastic post was a post to criticise joysmum for being sarcastic (even though I don’t think she even was TBH)...

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 21:50

No you are out to make men take the blame for everything ,the most common answer on most threads is ltb
I wonder if there is any bias, or maybe I'm imagining it!
I disagreed with someone and because it wasn't the "right" answer I get pilloried and abused over it
Guess you all are right and have to stick together makes me feel extremely sad someone can't have a different take on things .
By the way I think op's other half is out of order ,but no one seems to have noticed I said that .I just get laid into instead
Such is life on a bias forum

Eleanorsummer · 08/12/2017 21:51

I couldn't be with someone who thought that was acceptable behaviour. And the fact he wouldn't like his daughters doing it, but it is okay for him to pay other people's daughters to do it, just makes him a hypocrite.

Offred · 08/12/2017 21:53

Not men, toxic masculinity. And not everything, just the things it is responsible for; such as some men thinking it is fine to purchase consent and lie to their wives/partners about it.

I don’t know why you find it so difficult to understand that...

Cbeebiesgurl · 08/12/2017 21:57

For me, I always tend to be in relationships with feminists who wouldn't go to a strip club because of the harmful aspects of the industry. But I'm fairly certain it's usually OK to touch above the waist and sometimes the dancers get the guts off through their trousers. So I would say it is cheating.

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 21:59

Ok i'll bite ,if there is such a thing as toxic masculinity ,by definition there has to also be toxic feminism ,which from time to time appears via some posters on mumsnet on certain subjects like porn and the op's thread ,can't have one without the other or sexism is at play , or have I got that wrong

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roverman75 · 08/12/2017 22:02

I've already stated I have never been and won't go to strip clubs etc. I think they are seedy as well ,lying to your partner about it is wrong ,don't know if anyone actually read that ,you know I actually agree with you all!

Offred · 08/12/2017 22:02

I don’t think you understand the meaning of equality, but TBH this thread is not about educating you about toxic masculinity.

If you don’t know what it is you can read about it TBF on your own time.

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 22:06

Thanks for demeaning my intelligence , nice to know I'm stupid, never realised

Offred · 08/12/2017 22:09

You made a statement that clearly demonstrated that you think equality is about tit for tat. It’s not....

Your comment was like saying ‘black people are racist too’ to someone fighting apartheid...

Offred · 08/12/2017 22:11

And I’m not commenting on your intelligence.

The only thing that is clear is that you have such a massive chip on your shoulder, and as a consequence are so aggressively defensive, that you do not appear to be capable of having a mutual discussion about this subject.

It is therefore impossible to judge how intelligent you are, or are not...

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 22:16

Wow where did that come from. Ok I'm stupid ,there I've admitted it , happy now. I'll crawl back k under my stone.
Never said it was tit for tat .my experience is from a different perspective surely you can see that .

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 22:17

What exactly is the chip on my shoulder ,

Offred · 08/12/2017 22:28

That’s exactly why I used the example of apartheid. Some white people’s experience/opinions under apartheid might have been that black people were racist... it doesn’t mean apartheid wasn’t happening or wasn’t an issue... it would be an inappropriate comment to make precisely because it shows a lack of understanding of the broader issues and a focus on the very narrow personal experiences of one individual.

We are not talking about people’s individual anecdotal experiences/opinions... we are talking about the broader issues, as demonstrated, analyses etc through study of society as a whole.

If you don’t understand what toxic masculinity is or how masculinity is different from the biology of maleness then you should read about it.

You seem to already understand that criticising the behaviour of some women or criticising female culture (parts of it anyway) is not woman hating but you make weird assumptions that criticising toxic masculinity is man hating (even though the point people make is that it is damaging for men as well as women) and you seem to think that ‘by definition’ of the phenomenon of toxic masculinity exists there must also be such a thing as ‘toxic feminism’ which shows a real lack of understanding of even the most basic principles of sociology etc

Kr1st1na · 08/12/2017 22:33

There’s always some sodding man who wants to make it all about him.

Animation86 · 08/12/2017 22:36

Ehhh are we supporting the OP here or what

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 22:38

What are you a sociologist,
my life experience says different ,I rather trust what I see , and hear .
Yes we should be equal ,but I do not appreciate having rammed down my throat and abused when I say I don't like it , and I'm sorry if you've never seen it but there is toxic feminism ,doesn't matter if you believe it or not it's there
Still don't know what the chip on my shoulder is though

JaneEyre70 · 08/12/2017 22:38

Think the OP has long gone. Poor thing, her thread was well and truly hijacked. Let's hope she's got RL support Sad

roverman75 · 08/12/2017 22:42

@kr1st1na
I guess you hate men with that comment . It's not about me ,it's about attitudes ,which you definitely have against men

laudanum · 08/12/2017 22:44

rover do fuck off, there's a dear. 🙄

Bumbelinadance · 08/12/2017 22:45

Poor op
This did get derailed
Mmhhh
Thought it was about her

My response to original thread is .. how happy would he be if she paid a hot looking young stranger to rub his genitalia in her face ? So she can get her rocks off ? She probably wouldn't have to pay for the guy to do it .

My ex partner went in for this a bit ! I actually felt embarrassed for him and lost a lot of respect which didn't help our relationship to survive .

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