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Is this a reasonable response from DH?

296 replies

AngeloMysterioso · 03/10/2017 14:23

DH recently found out (by opening my post) that I'd taken out a loan (£3.5k) before we were married, to pay for some personal expenses. I was recently made redundant but I explained to him that I was on track with repayments, and I'd had the account suspended so it wouldn't accrue any more interest until I get another job. He went absolutely crazy, stormed out and sent me a text message telling me not to be there when he got home, so I went round to my friends. I'd not been there long and was having dinner when he sent another message saying he'd changed his mind and wanted me to go home. I explained that we were still eating and got this response

You're obviously not taking this very seriously. You're going to need to work very fucking hard tonight just to stay married and you're worried about finishing your fucking dinner?! I'd suggest you put your fucking coat on and get home.

When I did eventually get home he'd gone to bed and put the chain across the front door "so I couldn't sneak in". It broke when I opened the door so I still got in the flat but he woke up. He came in to the front room, pointed at the sofa and told me that's where I'd be sleeping, and went back to bed.

He came in at 20 past 2 in the morning, having decided that was a good time to talk. He was still in a rage and didn't calm down until I started having a panic attack (I have anxiety depression). He decided that the next day we'd go to his parents and ask them to lend us the money to pay off the loan. I didn't want to bring them into it but he was insistent. They were actually much calmer about it than he was, said everybody makes mistakes and they'd also had to lend BIL money and not to worry about it.

So to the thing I have an issue with- up until now we've kept all our finances separate- the mortgage and all utilities are in his name,
I give him money each month to cover my share, do an equal amount of food shopping etc- we didn't open a joint account until we were married and that was only because we got a few cheques made out to both of us so we had to- otherwise we never use it. He's now saying that from now on he controls all the money, and that when I get a job I have to have my salary paid into his bank account and he'll give me an allowance. He's likened the arrangement to me being a SAHM and getting an allowance from his salary. As much as I can see where he's coming from I'm really reluctant to do that! Surely as long as I'm making the contribution we agreed on, the rest of my salary should be mine to do with as I please?

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GlitterSparkles17 · 04/10/2017 20:10

If you have your wage put into his account he controls you and your life. What happens if you say you need money to go for a few drinks with friends and he says no? Is that how you want to live? Having to ask permission to spend your own money, as long as your paying your half of the bills what you do with your spare money is absolutely none of his business. You got a loan before you were even engaged it’s nkthing to do with him and you were paying it!! It will have had a positive effect on your credit rating if anything as it will be showing you pay your credit off. Total overreaction from him and I feel it will only get worse if you handed over your wage, please don’t do it.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 04/10/2017 20:13

Giant red flags waving everywhere. Opening your post, kicking off, his tone, his desire for financial control. Do not give him access to your money. Was it you that had a thread where you suspected he was cheating on you before your wedding?

AngeloMysterioso · 04/10/2017 22:12

Just wanted everyone to know I've really been taking all your comments on board. I'm not saying I'm going to LTB tomorrow but I have a great deal to think about.

I have absolutely no intention of giving him my salary.

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stayathomegardener · 04/10/2017 22:14

That sounds positive op.

wiltingfast · 04/10/2017 22:27

Wow

What an awful story

Don't take the parents' money. It just legitimises his notion that he has had to sort this "massive" problem out and now you owe him and no doubt embarrassed him etcetc.

It's your loan and you will pay it back when you're damn well ready and able.

Shocking, frightening stuff.

Am v relieved you don't have dc with him.

ChesGuitarra21 · 04/10/2017 22:29

Red flags abound OP. Leave this dick whilst you still can. Even if he was worried about the debt affecting him, his reaction is horrible and completely disproportionate, and I say this as someone whose EH left the country leaving thousands of pounds of credit card debt I knew nothing about. I would never have treated him the way your "D"H treated you.

If he is worried he can file a notice of financial disassociation on his credit file, suggest you do the same and seek to keep your finances and lives as separate as possible!

JWrecks · 04/10/2017 22:35

Just wanted everyone to know I've really been taking all your comments on board. I'm not saying I'm going to LTB tomorrow but I have a great deal to think about.

I have absolutely no intention of giving him my salary.

Good. Stand firm on this. Do not allow him to abuse you financially, isolate you, control you.

And, as always, if/when you start planning to leave an abuser, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. Have NOTHING posted to the house, make NO phone calls while he is anywhere near (even if you think he can't hear you), tell him NOTHING, go about as though everything is perfectly normal. Don't make your plans known to anybody who might ever tell him. Don't leave luggage or gathered possessions where he would ever find them. When you do leave, pack the minimum and leave all at once while he is out of the house. You will always have time to get the rest of your things later, or send somebody else for them.

CrikeyPeg · 05/10/2017 01:41

Well crikey, he's a right arsehole who seems to have a very selective memory judging by your other thread (why'd you marry him??). For goodness sake, whatever else you do make sure you use effective contraception. Stay strong OP.

Garlicansapphire · 05/10/2017 01:51

Fuck him. Really, thats totally unreasonable. You had a loan which you were paying off responsibly and had taken action to suspend payments.
He made a complete drama out of it and ran off to involve his parents as well.

Do not let him control your finances and think hard about your future with him. There are way worse things that can happen in life - how is he going to handle them if this is how he reacts?

Glad I'm single....

NewDaddie · 05/10/2017 01:57

There's always more to the story but I've heard enough to know that you don't have equity in your relationship. Bringing children into that environment would be cruel

Set up a standing order to pay back the parents and LTB.

Smitff · 05/10/2017 02:31

Gosh.

There is no way I would let anybody - ANYBODY - tell me what to do, especially when it comes to being or not being in my own home. Who the hell does he think he is?? Your dad?

By the same token, I would never keep secret from my DH debt that sounds like a significant amount to you.

I'm not saying the two things are as bad as each other. But they are both bad. He has no right to demean you as he did. You've caused him to question his faith/trust in you.

The only way I could begin to excuse his overreaction is if he has had major bad experience with debt in his life. Otherwise, not at all.

I'm afraid there's no excuse for you not telling him about the debt.

You're newly married. This is quite a big deal. I suggest you both agree not to talk about this for a week or so, just go about your lives. It'll be awkward but let the heat subside. Then have a calm discussion about it, figure out what you both fundamentally want and whether they're compatible.

Also, almost more importantly, I suggest setting some ground rules around how you go about resolving problems between you. Kicking you out of your own home then summoning you back for a telling off - pfffft. Fuck that shit.

CrikeyPeg · 05/10/2017 02:38

Just wondering, OP, if your name is on the deeds of the house yet?

HyacinthBooquet · 05/10/2017 03:03

OP, he was just waiting for the chance to show you who he really is.

pullingmyhairout1 · 05/10/2017 07:06

After seeing the updates I'm glad you're making plans to leave. Be careful not to get pregnant in the time it takes to leave. Be cautious about who you entrust. Get away cleanly and swiftly without his knowledge. If he does escalate one night get the hell out with the clothes on your back and call the police. They can supervise you getting your things if necessary.

Good luck. It's tough emotionally, and you will be all over the place initially.

NameChange30 · 05/10/2017 07:15

pulling
I think that's wishful thinking - the OP didn't say she's planning to leave him:
"I'm not saying I'm going to LTB tomorrow but I have a great deal to think about."
FWIW I'm not optimistic but I hope I'm wrong.

WalkingInTheAir13 · 06/10/2017 11:10

from Foxyloxy 25 May 2017

Lord have mercy. You cannot marry this person. You will regret it.

StaplesCorner · 06/10/2017 11:28

Too late walking they are married, but at least they have no DCs yet.

letsdolunch321 · 06/10/2017 12:07

I can only agree with majority of the above posters. You need to talk regards his controlling behaviours and DO NOT allow your money when you start working again to be paid in to his account.

He will give you an allowance for fuck sake does he think you are a child !!!

CousinKrispy · 06/10/2017 12:23

Please please do not have children or a joint mortgage with this man.

It will be so much easier for you to get away from him and take back your life before those things happen.

His reaction is completely over the top and it won't be the last time.

You can find lots of great advice online or through Citizen's Advice for how to manage money and avoid debt in the future.

Get out as fast as you can. I know it is hard to turn your back on someone who has been supportive in other ways and who you have married. But this will take away your sanity and your joy. Better to go through the temporary pain and humiliation and financial difficulties of splitting and to escape from that, then to spend longer tied to a controlling partner.

WalkingInTheAir13 · 07/10/2017 04:48

Yes, I know Staples. Therein lies the irony
I so hope OP will listen to the above posters this time around.

StaplesCorner · 07/10/2017 14:41

Ah sorry Walking I (now) see what you did there!

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