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Speeding husband...our problems are all my fault

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MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 10:20

I don't know how or where to start. I've got another thread going about my DH driving really fast in Germany with the kids and I in the car and about his general fast driving. There is a lot else going on in our marriage and we are at a crisis point after I broached the subject of the speeding last weekend and he blew his top.

Our relationship has always been tricky. When we met he was going through a messy divorce and there was loads going on with his DD (then 9) and exW and we really suffered. I was told I made no effort and contributed a lot to the acrimony. DH (we got married 6 years ago, got together 8 years ago) has always made me feel like I do things wrong. An example early in our relationship was me going out for dinner for a friend's birthday supper. I gave an ETA not REALLY knowing how evening was going to pan out but sent regular updates becuase it was a ten course tasting menu and it was running over massively. When I got home the house was dark and he was "asleep"...you could cut the atmosphere in the bedroom with a knife and he wouldn't talk to me. Eventually told me how rude, selfish and inconsiderate I was for being later than I said.

I was training hard to get to the Olympics and he was very supportive, practically and financially (significant because I became reliant on him and have no savings of my own) and he was also dealing with a lot. I tried to be as supportive as I could but the situation became untenable and I ended it. He went ALL out to repair it so I went back. My Olympic dream shattered but a few weeks later I found out I was pregnant. Around the same time my best friend, who is a very opinionated, strong-willed and black and white person, was cut out from our lives because things blew up around her feeling he was controlling me and trapping me, and he felt she was getting in too close and was destructive. Basically he told me I wasn't to have any contact with her, which left me without my friends because she was an integral part of my group of friends and I wasn't able to see them naturally and normally. Feeling depressed and hormonal and alone throughout pregnancy and baby days, I became very unwell. I wasn't sleeping with the baby and DH was training for an Ironman. It was a terrible spiral and I became more and more depressed. When I saw my friend in the street I mentioned it to DH because I was afraid he'd find out and be angry and I felt it best to be up front, and he went off, I was begging and sobbing and so it went on, self harming and crying and not sleeping and generally awful. One day it all got too much as it was happening so often and I decided to end it all. Attempt 1. A few weeks later I tried again in my car but bottled it. To my complete and utter shame, I had also lashed out at DH and walloped him in sheer and utter frustration and hopelessness. That was unforgiveable. I felt driven into such a corner and bashing myself around the head on brick walls, rolling pins, fists, anything that came to hand was just as bad. I must say that I have never ever hurt or touched the children. Ever.

Anyway, I got medication and started to feel much better and drink a lot less. Things didn't improve in terms of the rows but I harmed less. A friend took her own life through hanging and it was a terrible shock, and I connected with DH a bit more through the sadness, although only a few weeks previously I'd planned to leave him. Cue unexpected pregnancy. I was in turmoil about whether to keep the baby given the terrible state of our marriage but I wrote a letter to him and really laid it on the line that I was choosing it and we choose each other, warts and all. He didn't acknowledge it really although we were in counselling (not that it has made much difference).

The pregnancy somehow reset me and I am no longer depressed or medicated. I am strong and feel so much better. Baby is now 1 year old and a petal. I have committed not to fight or shout in front of the children after DS (aged 5) called me a nasty woman and there's only one place he heard that. DH blames me for everything...says I don't cope, can't cope, treat him badly, treat the children badly, am inconsistent, my behaviour is disgusting etc etc. I admit that I have done things wrong. I have been moody at 8am when DH comes bouncing down the stairs at 8am when I've been up with one or both kids and the day has started at 5am for me. I wasn't given the support with DS (first baby) and felt so alone with no network around me - our families live far away (Brazil and Africa and nearest family is 2 hours away) but I am doing so much better now in every way. I admit that when DH does things that anger me such as fuck about on his phone for hours while I deal with the children and then blames me for preventing him from spending time with them, I don't talk about it and bottle it up which is probably why he says I'm nasty and moody and treat him badly.

I've done things wrong and have my flaws. I can't write any more because I never get time to myself and kids are playing up and DH will be back soon and my window of opportunity has gone now. I've left so much out but tried to be balanced. I'm sorry if this is garbled. I've not given the story from last night as I can't right now but wil update when I next get a chance.

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Angelf1sh · 12/08/2017 10:28

I'm not really sure what, if anything, it is that you're asking for advice on here but I'd suggest you go back and reread your post and if you don't think at the end that you need to ltb then I doubt there's anything else I can add.

MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 10:29

I must add that DH can also be very kind and generous, very practical and able. These are the things that attracted me to him. He is good looking and I do love and fancy him. Sex isn't happening right now because I just can't when one day I'm awful and the next I'm his wonderful beautiful wife.

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MarklahMarklah · 12/08/2017 10:35

So he had problems in his first marriage because of his then wife, and now there are problems in this marriage because of you, according to him? I'd say the problem is him.

He sounds controlling, manipulative and abusive. I can't see this situation improving whilst you are still together.

AztecHero · 12/08/2017 10:36

Sweetheart.

Thanks
Maelstrop · 12/08/2017 10:37

So he's desperately unsupportive and controlling. Why are you with him? Is this how you want your children to learn about relationships?

Quartz2208 · 12/08/2017 10:38

I think you deep down know that this is about more than speeding and you have been in a controlling relationship from the beginning. It's not your fault

Theducksarenotmyfriends · 12/08/2017 10:45

He sounds awful. If this was your daughter explaining her relationship to you what would you say to her? You've still a chance at happiness but it's clearly not going to be while you're with him.

MrsBertBibby · 12/08/2017 10:45

SO one day you're the worst person ever and the next you're his angel?

It's not you. It's him.

Tartyflette · 12/08/2017 10:47

I'm so sorry. Are you getting any help of support with your mental health at all? (although it seems to me your biggest problem is your DH, if he is not the actual cause, he is certainly exacerbating things.)
And are you still having counselling as a couple or has that finished?

Frankly I'd be bloody moody at 8am if I'd been up since 5 dealing with the children and I'd be beyond furious if my DH fucked about on his phone for hours while I was busy with the kids.
Do you bring these issues up at your counselling sessions? Are you saying he doesn't know how you feel, or is it just him saying you never tell him how you feel? (I.E. you do tell him but he's not listening or denying you tell him.)

pictish · 12/08/2017 10:48

I know the speeding thread. I posted on it.

Your marriage is very unhappy. Your dh is an angry, controlling and dangerous man who treats you appallingly. He hasn't got a shred of respect for you...not because you are undeserving of respect but because he is incapable of giving it. His head's up his arse all the time so his view is obscured by his own rectum. His own shit is all he knows.

There's nothing you can or should do to fix him. How he is, is how he'll be.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 12/08/2017 10:50

I would say you need to go and see someone together or separately. He has massive control issues which take away your ability to be a functioning person in your own right. If he isn't prepared to address his issues then I think you need to consider your options.

pictish · 12/08/2017 11:03

Don't go and see 'someone' together. Marriage guidance is geared up for addressing mutual problems and takes an unbiased approach unsuitable for dealing with abuse. If the counsellor gives his bullshit an ounce of credence it will be smashed back in your face a thousandfold as 'proof' of what a nightmare you are.

Theworldisfullofidiots · 12/08/2017 11:06

Pictish is right - thanks Pictish.
But unless he is prepared to deal with his stuff, it won't change.

NettleTea · 12/08/2017 11:08

He is horribly abusive and controlling.
Read through this thread. See where he lands.
Have you had any counselling, if not, get some. You can use the excuse of how you were before as your get out clause. DO NOT HAVE JOINT COUNSELLING. And start taking steps to disentangle yourself from him

notapizzaeater · 12/08/2017 11:21

If this was your daughters husband what would you be advising her to do ?

AskBasil · 12/08/2017 11:57

LTB.

He is destroying you.

SandyY2K · 12/08/2017 12:28

Nothing to do with speeding up but he's a controlling manipulative man.

Is this what you want your children to grow up seeing?

The cycle will repeat itself and your DS will see this as the way to treat women.

PatriciaHolm · 12/08/2017 12:47

From day one he's been blaming you for everything, you've been conditioned to expect it.

He's an abuser and always will be.

squirreltrap · 12/08/2017 13:34

Get to the pit of your very being and find the strength to get this person who is harming you away.

This is not a life.

ravenmum · 12/08/2017 14:38

What he looks like, and the fact that he can be nice when he wants, are totally irrelevant as long as you are spending a lot of your time with him feeling like shit.

You do not need to prove that he is certifiably nasty before you leave. You don't have to wait until he has reached a certain level of disrespect towards you. If you and your partner are better apart than together, then you can leave even the loveliest of handsome, angelic heroes.

thestamp · 12/08/2017 14:50

It's extremely obvious to anyone reading here that you're in a v abusive marriage and need to leave.

I urge you to use the energy you have to remove yourself from this situation. Your children are suffering terribly because you seem unable to see that the problem is your h, and that nothing you do within the marriage is going to improve it.

Do you understand that he wants the marriage to be painful for you because that keeps you weak and dependent.

Nothing is going to improve. He wants things to hurt for you. You in pain = him in control of you.

You need to take your children and go. Please, open your eyes and keep them open. There is nothing for you here. Every moment you spend in this man's thrall is another month of therapy for your poor DC when they are grown up and trying to work out what the fuck their parents were doing.

This is urgent. Do not allow yourself to become pregnant again. Stop having sex with him. Get a coil if you can. I would expect that if he feels you are disengaging from him, he will try to rape you because historically you've stayed with him if you're pregnant. Be careful.

SandyY2K · 12/08/2017 15:18

I'll highlight a few things for you.

I broached the subject of the speeding last weekend and he blew his top.

This isn't acceptable. He knows he's driving too fast and yet he blows his top with you.

Our relationship has always been tricky

Warning

When we met he was going through a messy divorce .......I was told I made no effort and contributed a lot to the acrimony.

Red flag

DH has always made me feel like I do things wrong

Speaks volumes

An example early in our relationship ... And I sent regular updates.... he wouldn't talk to me. Eventually told me how rude, selfish and inconsiderate I was for being later than I said

Control and punishment
He did this early in the relationship. You aren't a child. You're a grown adult and yet he was treating you like a teenager with a curfew.

Basically he told me I wasn't to have any contact with her, which left me without my friends because she was an integral part of my group of friends and I wasn't able to see them naturally and normally.

Typical abuser move. Isolating you from those who can see right through him.

You're being controlled and his abuse is affecting your mental health.

If his dangerous driving doesn't kill you, his abuse might just send you over the edge.

MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 18:52

Thank you everyone. I really appreciate and value what you've all said. I'm extremely reluctant to leave because I just can't bear the idea of the children being away even for a night. DS is 5 and I've never spent a night away from him. DH works abroad a lot and has been away for weeks at a time. He owns his own company.

One of the things I find really frustrating is the fact that he can just slope off and disappear...I find him on his phone or laptop definitely not always working. He seems to be able to take days off and stay in bed when it suits him but sometimes he "can't" come to DS hospital appointments etc or can take random other days off to sit under a blanket if he's "not feeling well". I get very resentful and can barely look at him because it's so galling when I can't just zone out of life and the family. I think this is where the accusation that I am unpleasant to be around and treat him badly when he offers affection and I can't reciprocate it enthusiastically. He's a very physically affectionate person which neither of our respective exes was so I guess we were drawn to each other for that reason. Anyway. I hope to see a brief next week. He has a current arrangement for his DD so I'm hoping that that precedent will hold some sway but it's the idea of large chunks of time that I can't bear. I would happily find many other solutions to it including staying put if I have to but I won't let him know that as I know he would play hard ball with me. God. What a mess.

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MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 18:52

BTW I have had lots of support for MH stuff. Very lucky and grateful.

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Naicehamshop · 12/08/2017 19:07

Sorry, but I just can't see a future for you with this awful man.

I'm glad you have a lot of support because I think you are really going to need it. Sad

Look after yourself. Flowers