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Would you be bothered by this - DH travelling with female colleague and not telling me

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manechanger101 · 15/07/2017 14:31

DH travels quite frequently for work and is often in a different place every day of the week so we don't generally discuss where he is in any great detail - it will just be 'x today, Y tomorrow' etc. Recently he's started a new project which involves a flight to get to and last week he went there for two days. He told me that the two guys he'd previously travelled there with were already out there so I assumed he was going alone although he never actually said he was/I didn't ask.

He phoned when away as normal but he didn’t talk much about the trip when he came home. Few days later I found a pair of woman’s shoes in his car. Asked him about them he said 'oh they're Chloe’s from the other day', apparently when he went away she had gone with him. She works on the project too, I've heard of her before but had no idea he was travelling with her. She'd parked near the house and he'd driven her to the airport, they flew together, stayed in the same hotel, went for dinner with the others etc..

He says he doesn't understand why I'm annoyed, that he didn't think he needed to mention it and it's no different to when he travels with one of the guys, I'm just concerned cause it seems like he purposely didn't mention it.

There’s a few other things that bother me about this woman, like the fact that I’ve seen lots of messages from her in his email but don’t know if I’m being unreasonable to be bothered about the trip

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Popchyck · 15/07/2017 18:06

Yes, why didn't she take her shoes for the return journey when she got back into her own car? If she needs the other shoes to drive?

Forgot about them presumably. So she gets to her car which is just down the street apparently, then realises she has forgotten the driving shoes (because she needs them to drive, remember), and then immediately rings your husband who is just getting to his front door by this time: "Oops, forgotten my other shoes. Can you unlock the car so I can get them?"

But for some reason she didn't do that. She just sets off and drives in her non-driving shoes. That and the lots of email messages from her mean that something is up.

Bluntness100 · 15/07/2017 18:07

I wouldn't be concerned. Not knocking at five am is considerate. He prob just never thought to mention it. If he was raving on about her I'd be more concerned.

I travel with male colleagues, text em, get lifts, don't meet their partners. Wouldn't shag one of them. I'd be horrified if one of the partners viewed the fact I did the same job as their partner and as such travelled to the same places with them at the same time as suspicious,

I also wouldn't go into someone's home at five am. And I doubt any of my colleagues would be inconsiderate enough to come into mine at that point.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 15/07/2017 18:08

Surely she'd have left "driving shoes" in her own car?

Bluntness100 · 15/07/2017 18:09

She just sets off and drives in her non-driving shoes

Blimey, active imagination, she could easily have been wearing a pair of flat shoes on the way back that were suitable for driving and totally forgot.

manechanger101 · 15/07/2017 18:12

I’ve managed to have a quick look at his phone, felt really strange doing it as I wouldn’t normally snoop but there are a lot of emails between them that he hasn’t deleted. Some are work related and some are chatty and they’re a bit flirty but nothing really obvious apart from how casual some of them are.

He is a couple of levels above her but she’d sent him one email just saying ‘you’re a wanker’ and then he replied ‘sorry, but you love me really’ and a smiley face. Don’t know what it was about but obviously wasn’t serious and in one this week he told her that ‘Mike’ had asked him if there was something going on between them and she’d just replied that Mike was an idiot.

When they were away there aren’t any emails but there’s a text early on the morning they came back with him asking her if she is going to breakfast so that must mean they weren’t together at least?

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manechanger101 · 15/07/2017 18:14

The shoes were behind the drivers seat, he said she must have been wearing flat shoes when they came back and forgotten them like bluntness says which does make sense I think

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MaisyPops · 15/07/2017 18:15

Why are people reading so much into the shoes?

I keep a pair of flats in the car in case I need them.
I keep a pair of heels under my desk in case I need them.

Some days I need to use one of them, others I don't. Sometimes I've been known to swap into my 'desk' shoes and Wear them all the way home leaving a different pair at work.

It's hardly mystery of the century.

She probably was travelling back in a pair of shoes good for driving in so didn't think about the pair she'd left. Simple enough.

wonderingwhy2 · 15/07/2017 18:17

If she needs to drive in other shoes, then she would have needed the shoes for her return drive.

Hadn't thought of that.
Now it's sounding really fishy.

Popchyck · 15/07/2017 18:17

Well, they are acting so suspiciously that even 'Mike' has asked if something has been going on between them.

So it's not just you who has noticed. Not so innocent after all.

Bluntness100 · 15/07/2017 18:17

Based on those emails op I'd say that's defintely friendship zone, they are just mates,

PurpleDaisies · 15/07/2017 18:18

Why are people reading so much into the shoes?
People like dramatic threads with cheating partners getting caught out.

MrsMozart · 15/07/2017 18:21

Tiger - can't remember... lovely restaurant (sea front), but long ago and beachside apart, not memorable Grin

AnyFucker · 15/07/2017 18:22

Tiger, have you got something useful to say or are you just here for the lolz ?

Op...so other people are noticing something between them ? Hmm. I also would not be happy with the tone of the communication if I saw that on my husband's phone. A bit of wishful thinking going on there, methinks.

MaisyPops · 15/07/2017 18:22

wondering
It's not fishy.

Monday- I have heels in my bag and wear flats to drive. I leave flats somewhere (say a friend's car)
Friday- I'm travelling in flats (because I've had 2 pairs of shoes in my case) so it never occurred to me to remember the flats I left in a friend's car because my heels are in my case and I have a pair of sensible shoes to drive in.

The shoes aren't suspicious at all. But maybe that's because I'm a woman who has spare shies places.

MaisyPops · 15/07/2017 18:22

*shoes

childmaintenanceserviceinquiry · 15/07/2017 18:23

But this is how emotional affairs start. Lots of friendly communication, casual to start with , then slowly more friendly/teasing, then coffees, more personal chats, not discussing at home (deliberate non-mentionitus), until suddenly bang the boundary line is crossed.

The fact a work colleague has commented on it and your DH hasnt said to anything to you about that is again another red flag.

I would be on my guard from now, just watching and seeing what happens. He travels a lot so see what happens on the next few trips. As stated above of course men and women can be friends, both in and out of the work place but you normally talk about your friends.

wonderingwhy2 · 15/07/2017 18:24

Emails:

''Wanker''
''You Love me Really.''
''X asked if there's something going on with us.''

Yeah, that all sounds really professional and above board Hmm

There's serious flirting going on, if nothing else. Something to keep an eye on.

wonderingwhy2 · 15/07/2017 18:25

Tiger, is it possible you need to have a bit of a lie down?

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AnyFucker · 15/07/2017 18:26

You are looking to act like a prick, I'd say tiger

wonderingwhy2 · 15/07/2017 18:27

of course men and women can be friends, both in and out of the work place but you normally talk about your friends.

Exactly.

Popchyck · 15/07/2017 18:27

Yep, mates. Obviously. Grin

And the colleague Mike has got the wrong end of the stick. Clearly reading too much into things and liking the drama, that's Mike.

Or perhaps Mike is an impartial observer who is not blind. And who is concerned enough about your husband making a tit of himself with a junior colleague to talk to him about it.

SleepingTiger · 15/07/2017 18:27

I think I should LTB

Redglitter · 15/07/2017 18:29

Start your own fucking thread then Tiger and stop being an arse on this one

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