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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Advice please, I am being stalked

205 replies

user1491774393 · 09/04/2017 22:56

Hello everyone. I dont really know where to begin and this is complicated. I am being stalked online and offline, I have also been disgustingly slandered and harassed. Stopping short of deleting all of my social network accounts I dont know what to do. I was hacked a few years ago, and things that I had written went on to be plagiarised, then I was subjected to a smear campaign. This was really bad, It ended up in me having a mental breakdown and attempting suicide. The online harassment is still happening. I already had post traumatic stress disorder before this. I have told the police, I have screenshots of the weird cryptic harassment I am on the receiving end of almost daily. Removing my social network accounts would render me pretty much isolated due to disability. This has made me beyond depressed, It also made me relapse back into having an eating disorder and I am now awaiting assistance from mental health services because of this unrelenting and cruel harassment. Any advice would be appreciated, I just dont know what to do. My children and I had to leave our home because of this, which was a massive upheaval for all of us. This is actually making me ill. Sorry for moaning but you ladies give the best advice.

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SolomanDaisy · 10/04/2017 16:15

What do your close relatives think? Are they supportive?

What happened when you complained to the council about the bin man? Was there an investigation?

Counterpane · 10/04/2017 16:22

OP, no-one is a stalker sympathiser on this thread, we are trying to help.

You have said yourself that your mental health was already affected by PTSD before this began and that you are also physically disabled, which maybe makes you feel even more vulnerable. As a rule mental health assessments are to determine whether help is needed and what form it should take - there is no pass or fail.

The difficulties you are having and the need to move home several times to escape are clearly having an impact and you need to go back to your doctor and insist on a fresh look at your problems asap.

SmashingInAthleticWear · 10/04/2017 16:28

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FlyAwayPeter · 10/04/2017 16:56

OP I think posters are responding to the way you are sounding in your posts. You don't give us much else to go on ...

That old joke might be applicable here: "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you." But it also doesn't mean that you're not paranoid.

You are being harassed, but you might also be - because of stress etc - not in the best of health, and so therefore unable to see or think as well as you might do usually.

twattymctwatterson · 10/04/2017 18:23

Honestly op, you don't sound well. I know you're not going to take that kindly judging by your other responses on this thread, but you don't.

brightspark2 · 10/04/2017 18:38

OP do you rent from a council or housing association? If so, they may have an anti social behaviour unit who could support and advise you on how to build the case and escalate it under a duty of care if the police cannot investigate yet. Any assumption of your identity or abuse of your address can be reported to action fraud who have a cyber unit. And calmly listing the incidents in chronological order, using factual rather than emotive language would help in presenting a dossier to your local MP who may be able to take up the matter with the relevant agencies. Good luck.

brightspark2 · 10/04/2017 18:39

To clarify, the list should be in writing, giving dates, any witnesses, what happened and how it affected you and your family.

Hellofromme · 10/04/2017 18:39

You must have spent a lot of time a analysing this. Do you think the cat going missing and the binman pushing you over and people heckling you in the street are linked to the stalker i.e. one person?

ElsaMars · 10/04/2017 20:40

Think the op has gone.

If you feel you can come back with the story in full and in chronological order of events, maybe we'll understand better? Obviously, you don't have to do that if you don't want to or if it's not appropriate.

We are trying to help and be supportive Flowers

RuncibleSp00n · 10/04/2017 21:38

Hang on a minute OP. I genuinely posted out of concern for your wellbeing. You then accused me of 'gaslighting' you and various other unfair comments, and then my original comment gets deleted by MNHQ?! Confused

I'm speechless at how unjust that is. I prefaced my post by saying "in the kindest way possible" and explained that I'm an nhs mental health professional, who has a lot of experience of supporting and comforting people who are in very scared and distressed conditions due to absolute genuine beliefs about being stalked/harassed/persecuted.

I'd like to reiterate: I was NOT diagnosing you as being delusional or ill (how could someone diagnose on the basis of your one initial post?), I was not 'gas-lighting' you, or 'belittling' or 'patronising' you. I was just gently suggesting that your post contained many of the same beliefs/convictions/fears/terms/phrases etc that I come across in (perfectly pleasant, nice, intelligent) people who are experiencing transitory delusional beliefs. They don't believe they're ill (until they're better) That's the very nature of delusional illness. So. It's at the very least a possibility, and I honestly say this only outvof genuine and honest care and concern for you and your current levels of distress.

Please don't write me off as just an uncaring, 'patronising' 'gaslighting' MH professional who fails to understand. I'm also a user of mh servs myself, and have experienced paranoid delusional beliefs in the past.

In summary, noone (including you it seems) knows precisely what is going on. But I genuinely hope you manage to get to the bottom of things soon and can achieve some resolution and to feel safer. Flowers

I'm sure my message will be deleted shortly, just as my previous message was. V disappointing, MNHQ Confused

FlyAwayPeter · 10/04/2017 21:53

Runcible I hope your post stays - it is wise and compassionate, and i imagine that most posters on this thread would agree.

The OP sounds very distressed. I hope she finds support.

RuncibleSp00n · 10/04/2017 22:36

Thanks so much Fly. That's reassuring. I was a bit perplexed and disappointed that my earlier post had been deleted. It was very similar in tone & content. But when the OP took offence (which is her right) MNHQ zapped my post for some reason (giving me no idea why). I know this isn't about me, but it's left me feeling pretty reluctant to try to help or advise in future Sad.

SleepFreeZone · 10/04/2017 22:41

It can't just be online stalking if someone is leaving things outside your house. It must be someone you associate with in real life.

Scrumptiousbears · 10/04/2017 22:48

In my experience the police would look at this. I think there maybe a reason behind the MH referral.

Counterpane · 10/04/2017 22:51

@Runciblesp00n, There was nothing wrong with your post, I read it and could see it was a gentle suggestion that professional help might be needed.

user1491774393 · 11/04/2017 01:19

I dont actually associate with anyone now, My illness is quite restrictive and painful so my ability to socialise is trumped with intollerable pain. Thanks for the clarification Runcibesp00n. I did mention that I had already been pushed into mental health services and then discharged due to my mental health being fine. I agree with your point about professional help, hence me asking for emdr again after being discharged from mental health services, If I was mentally unwell I would have requested to stay under their care because I am a parent and I understand what responsibility means, I also take it seriously, I'm strong and wouldn't have left thew home of my dreams for nothing.

I am not delusional, I do not think warped thoughts, my functionality is average because I have to push myself regardless of my health problems because I have children. It's only average because I have mobility and pain issues. I cannot take analgesia for this because according to my specialist I am too delicate, the last we tried made me ill for 3 days, from one tablet.

Scrumptiousbears What exactly do you mean by that? I'm obviously stupid so you should really explain in terms that a thicko like me can understand, Considering I have to deal with all of this and people are so keen to dismiss it as delusional. Your reply makes not one bit of sense to me. Rather than jump; all over your poorly constructed sentence I will just acknowledge that you are a bit judgy and lack experience. You are fortunate to have never experienced anything like this. It's not an every day thing so I dont expect many others to relate at all. I did look at other threads like this after I posted this and saw that no one else had been accused of being mental. But well done anyway, your response well and truly got my back up, Which is obviously what you intended.

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lampshady · 11/04/2017 01:48

Hi OP.

I've been in a similar but dissimilar situation. Was being abused/gaslighted but by someone I knew and it ended with a social services and MH referral. Because I'd been in the system before, professionals were quick to label me mad/bad/sad.

I can fully appreciate what stress does to your thought processes, I was a wreck. It took everything not to curl up into a ball and shut the door on everyone.

Some things that helped me:

Keeping a detailed diary of incidents, including photos, with times, dates, descriptions etc. This was useful to spot patterns and get my thoughts in order as well as for evidence.

I practiced mindfulness for my mental health. Doesn't help everyone but helped me.

Planned weekly/monthly nice things, whatever was appropriate, to keep my self esteem up. A mobile hairdresser cut my hair, bought books online, did research projects etc. Whatever makes you happy and keeps you occupied.

I blocked a lot of it out and still haven't really dealt with the anger.

Rawr · 11/04/2017 02:17

It's awful how I share my experience to get advice and some posters feel the need to question my mental health. Thanks a lot to those of you that haven't, this is difficult enough as it is. I regret even starting this thread. I guess I am just supposed to allow them to win, say I'm mentally ill, pretend that nothing has actually happened and just accept the brandishing of mentally ill even though I already passed a mental health assessment and was discharged because I am not mentally ill. Thanks for making me feel bad. Thanks a lot.

You came to the internet with a crazy story that I think you yourself even knows that it sounds mad to outsiders, it's only normal that people would question it, no need to take it as a personal attack. Maybe you should take the getting assaulted in public as a personal attack? You know, write a statement about that and include it with all your screenshot evidence and then take it to the authorities...

Rawr · 11/04/2017 02:18

Hire a PI and get counselling.

user1491774393 · 11/04/2017 02:26

Thank you Lampshady, I do the blocking thing, I also am no longer on any social networking sites, I left mn previously, through being harassed here too. When this began I lost email addresses which enabled the person or people doing this to see what sites I had been on ( Mainly youtube, here, wrongplanet, salongeek, a plant specific site and a boobjob site) This actually all started when someone that I knew years ago, that I thought was on good terms with me started a thread on a forum completely slating me.

I left the forum, I didnt know how to deal with that level of snide and bitchy abuse, the other posters aired their disagreement too and it all went on from there. My electronics were interfered with and I was bullied on just about every site that used to be a sanctuary for me. Specific things where mentioned, horrible and disgusting things that people that bullied me when I was younger were mentioned, I was taken the mick out of because my brother committed suicide. A lot of my personal info was leaked onto memes. things about my family that I had never spoken of online where shown in an attempt I think to dominate me, I was told lots of horrible things, a lot of them I wont write here out of risk of flaring up the mh brigade even though part of me thinks that I should because it's self evident and the more info I provide the more sense this makes.

I never feel anger, I havent got that in me. I just feel down and a bit hopeless. Unsupported and burdened. My children and my dog keep me going, but the sick bullies actually made me too scared to hug my sons for months because of the disgusting things they said about me. This harmed the relationship I have with my long term partner too, because like I said, it's not an every day thing. I was always the strong one and I spent over 6 months scared and crying. I still have the odd wobble but I just throw myself into doing what needs to be done.

I have had to change all of my interests because these people made them unattainable via slandering me. I not only lost a huge sense of self but my home and all of our possessions too. I was goaded about that as well. This was a wholly alienating and vile experience. I screenshot the online abuse i get but it's all indirect, the people doing it don't make direct threats to me (they are cryptic but anyone with half a brain can tell) because unfortunately they seem to have a bit of intelligence, But they did mention things that give me a legitimate cause for concern, hence attempting suicide and relapsing back into anorexia following being the healthiest weight I had ever been. Everything was going really well, Someone just didn't want me to be happy so they set about ruining my life for shits and giggles, and managed to recruit some helpers along the way.

OP posts:
cloudchasing · 11/04/2017 02:33

How do you mean your electronics were interfered with?

EffinElle · 11/04/2017 02:41

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user1491774393 · 11/04/2017 02:43

I actually cannot afford to hire a pi (Destitute, unable to work due to illness) I looked into this. I also consulted with a solicitor that specialised in plagiarism but couldn't afford the fees. I have a no win no fee solicitor that I am yet to start proceedings with. Your comment implies that other victims of creepy weirdo stalkers are abnormal somehow? I have the same limbs as you, the same heart, the same gender, the same sexuality (probably) just this experience is different. Not a wild story at all. More an unfortunate series of events that happened due to some people being hateful or badly parented. I have taken this to authorities, I also emailed several MP'S following being advised to do so on here. Like I already mentioned it's alienating, I know that. Thanks anyway Rawr

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HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 11/04/2017 02:43

Oh OP sweetheart Flowers

Please read Runcible's post very closely and carefully.

user1491774393 · 11/04/2017 02:47

I was hacked, i suspect a remote access trojan, hence my social networks and email addresses being accessed, I think a keylogger was installed somehow. I contacted a computer forensics expert and he explained how this could have happened. My passwords where not ever simple or straight foreward, but I am not tech savvy at all.

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