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The Dating Thread, episode 113. Real life and online dating advice.

999 replies

Bant · 11/02/2017 19:43

Open to all going through the horror that is dating as a parent. Jump in with questions and advice.

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize-they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread.
OP posts:
pringlecat · 05/03/2017 00:04

Sorry to hear what you're going through, Lovemusic33. It's so hard when they disappoint us - the first few months should be fun! If they're not, something's wrong.

Well, ladies and gent (gents? - do we still have any other men apart from Bant?) I am back in the game. Grin

I have a date lined up. It's not for over a week's time, but he seems genuinely nice and looks-wise, he seems in the same league. Smile He's cute in a boy next door way, as opposed to intimidatingly pretty.

I shall name him Beardy McBeardface. If he has no beard when I meet him, I will be disappointed. He suits it and I do like a beard on a man who suits a beard. (Some are just better suited to clean shaven.)

FreeNiki · 05/03/2017 00:51

I feel quite low about dating. All of the last few guys that showed potential ended up only wanting sex.

The last one I haven't dignified with an answer.

InfoSec21 · 05/03/2017 00:57

Just remember some of us guys aren't looking for that, we're looking for a proper relationship.

We are out there, keep looking.

FreeNiki · 05/03/2017 01:02

Looking too long now. I dont believe there are any decent guys out there.

Mumswallet · 05/03/2017 03:38

FreeNiki. I tend to agree with you. Divorced for six years, after PA marriage! Despite having a great job, dc, independent, Winkanybody over the age of 50 is invisible! Reading all the comments here, and I'm an avid fan, makes me think we are too accommodating (LM33) and ready to accept crumbs...Bant and Info give excellent perspective.
I think it's a Mrs Robinson moment....Wink

Pavonia · 05/03/2017 07:41

LoveMusic Hope you are feeling better this morning.

A chap on Tinder wants to meet today, but I've said no because I'm genuinely busy today and I don't know much about him. The messaging has been slow because there are hours between messages. Either our schedules are out of sync or he is not good with messages.

Another chap who seemed interesting stopped messaging but hasn't unmatched. Why? Is he another one just looking for sex and realises that I am unlikely to be up for that?

I get lonely too especially on the weekends when my kids are with their dad, but I've dealt with it this weekend by keeping busy and today I'm meeting up with a good friend.

LosingDory · 05/03/2017 07:47

There are decent men out there, I think I've found one on tinder so against all the odds! Come off all the dating sites now, the MB are excellent and it's all going fabulously. He's fun to be with and I get butterflies when I see him and that's enough for me right now!

Pavonia · 05/03/2017 07:51

LosingDory Good news! Was it obvious from his Tinder profile that he was looking for a relationship? What was the messaging like?

RunnnyMummy · 05/03/2017 08:15

Out of the blue two old irons contacted me last night.
Mr Build. Was supposed to have date 2 with him tonight but he went quiet last Tuesday. Didn't respond to my messages. He claims he's been ill and didn't get the messages. But WhatsApp shows him as been online every day for long times and my messages were delivered.
I've ignored him so far.
Other iron went quiet a couple of weeks ago but so did I. Nice to hear from him. So I'll see what happens there.
Coffee date today with Mr Boxer. Smile
And had an actual phone conversation with Mr Cake last night and we've agreed to meet next weekend.

LosingDory · 05/03/2017 08:34

pavonia it wasn't obvious what he was looking for I had to ask him, but it was clear he wasn't just looking for sex (no dodgy photos). We hit it off straight away with the messaging, there was no awkwardness at all we just clicked and we were messaging a lot

WhatAm1doing · 05/03/2017 08:40

Just thought I'd pop back and say hi, was on these threads back in May, June. Met someone off tinder in July and all still going well, were at the 8 month mark. So it is possible, there are decent men looking for real relationships out there, there are also players a users, but you get them everywhere.
I feel like loosingdory he makes me smile and just thinking about him makes me bee happy...and MB are fan bloody tastic. Had no idea with ex that they could be so good ( we'd been married 25 years) and I can safely say I've had more MB in last 8 months than in my whole married life!Shock.

Don't loose heart keep at it but most of all enjoy and remember you are the prize ..he makes me feel like I'm the top prize in a v exclusive raffle.

Disappointednomore · 05/03/2017 08:58

Hi there haven't posted for a while. Met someone I really hit it off with but on 3rd date my spidey senses started tingling. We have to be so careful when we have kids that I asked him to slow down a bit (he was making plans, assuming I'd go on holiday, asking about meeting DD) anyway he sent me a nasty crude text last night that to me just confirms my concerns. I'm starting to think it's not possible to meet s decent match for me. I can't meet anyone in RL as I'm a lone parent. Very demoralised.

Lovemusic33 · 05/03/2017 09:12

disapointed, it's hard isn't it, I have a feeling I will be single for ever, feels like there are no nice men out there Sad.

OnceMoreIntoTheBleach · 05/03/2017 09:41

Someone I met 3 times and chatted to for about 4 weeks told me he loved me. That's a big red flag isn't it. Any others I should be looking out for? I need a check list! I'm so almost done with this lark.

OnceMoreIntoTheBleach · 05/03/2017 09:43

LM and disappointed I'm feeling much the same. I got chatting to a couple of irons last night, but this morning I just feel I can't really be bothered as I've had so many disappointments that I didn't see coming, and I'm not sure how many more times I can invest my time and energy into chatting and meeting up and then ending up back at the start. It's very disheartening Sad

Lovemusic33 · 05/03/2017 09:55

I feel the same once, thought I would get a thick skin but no, it still hurts, I should be able to see it coming by now. I really can't be bothered to date anyone else right now as I can't cope with the disappointment. I have several lovely men that message me, I have met them but there's no huge spark there which is a shame as they seem genuine, one was messaging me all night despite me pooping my heart out about Mr MOD, why can't I be attracted to nice men?

Lovemusic33 · 05/03/2017 09:59

And once, I have had about 5 or more men tell me they love me after a couple of dates, I don't believe it's love, more lust and them trying to say the right thing to keep us, one I dumped straight away, one I stayed with and it ended badly. Mr Mod says he loves me, says he has butterflies when I kiss him but so far he hasnt proved that he loves me (actions speak louder than words). How can you love someone you don't really know? It has to be lust or a lie.

Bant · 05/03/2017 09:59

Alright.

Well, there are nice men out there, the problems with finding them are:

Online dating is not natural. It's a wide array of faces to choose from, and it's addictive. Men (and to a lesser extent women) get the sweet shop syndrome, followed by the sweet trolley syndrome.

Sweet shop = so many things to pick. I have nothing at the moment, I want to pick a bit of each. So I'll message loads, and the only thing I judge them on is how shiny and pretty they look in their jars.

Sweet trolley = I have this lovely chocolate cake, but look, there goes the sweet trolley. Maybe I don't want this chocolate cake after all, they have cheesecake and ice cream and fruit salad. I'll see if I can get some of the other stuff.

Then of course we message multiple women, because it's rare that someone we should choose to message actually messages us first. And we carry on multiple conversations, and let some go quiet because someone is funnier, or closer, or more attractive, and possibly if things don't work out we'll go back to the cold irons.

And then we meet someone. And if things go well, we sleep with them. And sometimes they're interesting and funny and a potential partner, but often we don't work out that they're not right until we've slept with them. And then they get all clingy (because of oxytocin etc,) and we pull away, and ghost, and generally act like dicks. And rather than keep moving forward we go back to the sweet trolley, because if a tiny thing about this person isn't right, maybe there's someone else out there who's perfect. I thought this one was, because I messaged her loads, and then she has a weird laugh or voted Tory or something..

This isn't because they're bad man, or just looking for a shag (in many cases) - it's because online dating gives them a false sense of choice, the messaging gives them the opportunity to construct a romanticised perfect version of the woman, and then after time the cognitive dissonance kicks in, and causes them to withdraw, then go back to the wonderful shiny array of women on display, just waiting to be wooed.

Plus, some are just looking for a shag. One third of men's profiles are married men, too.

There are loads of stories of women meeting fantastic men from OD - there have been several Thread weddings before now. Most of the women who were posting on here when I first joined, several years ago, are in long term things still, with men they met then.

The key is -
Weed out the obvious sex pests early
Chat and be funny to the ones who seem okay. Be willing to move on, politely, if you don't gel.
Do not overinvest, and be cautious of them doing the same. Lovebombing is a curse for both sexes
Meet sooner rather than later, and be yourself.
If you want sex early on, be prepared that that may itself cause things to end. The longer you wait, the more likely you'll have a relationship with them afterwards (I'm all for women and men having sex whenever they want to, and there are loads of cases of people sleeping together on the first date and being married with kids, but.. in my opinion, men are often wired to fire and forget, unless you're interesting and funny enough to be better than the sweet trolley)

I've got a date this evening. I want a relationship with someone, I want to come home to someone, and tell them about my day, and listen to theirs, and watch tv together and go on holiday together.

This woman could be funny and attractive and interesting and great. But I know that if I go to bed with her too soon, the pull of the sweet shop will make me think of going back to it, unless I've become emotionally attached to her. Men take longer to get emotionally attached than women do. If that's not there, the sweet shop calls..

(This is why I wait before sex now. I know my faults, I work to avoid them. I'm a good man, but I'm human)

OP posts:
FreeNiki · 05/03/2017 10:37

There are loads of stories of women meeting fantastic men from OD - there have been several Thread weddings before now.

One of my exes married someone he met on OD.

What I am not sure she knows is that he was with me when they met. She probably thinks she met a fantastic guy on OD.

You just never know.

OnceMoreIntoTheBleach · 05/03/2017 11:04

Bant that's very insightful, thank you!

I didn't sleep with the one who said he loved me. Actually have only slept with one person from OLD who I slept with on first date and then had a relationship with for 2.5 years (but he turned out to be a bit of a bully in the long run, so I ended it).

I certainly won't be rushing into MB with anyone. It will be 5 date minimum and even then only if I'm feeling like it really does have potential.

I'm just so drained of all the effort needed to even get to that point. And it's so hard as I'm a full-time parent (exH is 200 miles away) so finding the time for a date is not easy. I need to feel it's worth it.

RunnnyMummy · 05/03/2017 11:07

bant you are spot on as usual Smile

My latest tinder match
Me: hi, how are you? You have a lovely smile (I know I am cheesy)
Him: thank you
Me: I'm curious about your photo. Do you like xyz
Him: yes

What's the point!! Why respond if you aren't going to chat?

Pavonia · 05/03/2017 11:21

Runny full marks for trying. I've just used my superlike on someone.

I've decided to stand firm on my location criteria, the one who wanted to meet splits his time between London and elsewhere, that wouldn't be good for me.

My profile comes across as quite serious which puts off the idiots I think, trouble is it probably puts off some of the good ones too.

Iusedtobedontcall · 05/03/2017 11:25

Bant that depresses me a bit. I've been online dating for 4 years. There's no hope Grin

Iusedtobedontcall · 05/03/2017 11:29

To be fair though, I have had relationships from it. Just not lasting ones.

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