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Advice please. Husband driving me insane with constant moaning about his health.

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user1484750550 · 02/02/2017 19:05

My husband is driving me crackers (and has been for a while, several years actually.) As much as I love him, he never stops moaning about his health. Every other week, he complains about a new ailment, and not a week goes by when he isn’t whining about something or other that is (supposedly) causing him pain.

This past fortnight, it’s his shoulder; he thinks it’s ‘fallen out of its socket,’ and he complains continually, wincing and griping every time he moves. It's so annoying!!! He got me to get a sling for him to wear at work (office job,) so he isn’t forced to do anything that ‘might make it worse.’ The other week it was his knees ‘killing him,’ then before that it was his eyes that ‘weren’t right.’ (He said he kept getting things flashing past his eyes, and he wants to go for a test at specsavers - even though he went to Boots opticians and got some new glasses in November, and his eyes were 100% fine then.)

Before that it was his hand that felt swollen and sore and tender; ‘I think I may have arthritis’ he said. Then before that it was his elbow and wrist that were ‘giving him grief.’ He says to me 'feel that, isn't that swollen?' and 'feel that, doesn't that feel cracky and weird?' It never does...

Before that, it was a migraine making him nauseous and blurring his vision, before that it was his ear fuzzing and popping and he said he thinks he’s losing his hearing, before that it was his stomach killing him, and he thought he may have stomach cancer, before that it was his heart ‘beating funny.’ He claimed ‘my heart is just not right: I don’t think I’m long for this world…’

He has had test after test after test at the doctors and the hospital this past 2 years; ECG tests for his heart found nothing, x rays on his shoulders, hands, elbows, hips, etc found nothing, blood tests found nothing, urine tests found nothing, barium meal found nothing, pipes shoved down his throat found nothing, tests on his eyes and ears found nothing...

He has had test after test after test on every part of his body. Nothing! He just claims they are all 'wrong.' and keeps going back again and again to the doctors, and says he will keep doing so until they discover something. I almost think he WANTS them to find something - but I have no idea why! Maybe so he can go on the sick and give up work! He seems DESPERATE for them to find something. Even our daughter said she thinks he would be over the moon if they said he had cancer or something!

They have tested for half a dozen different things, and he has had painkiller after painkiller, anti inflammatories, anti biotics, all sorts. ‘I think I may have fibromyalgia’ he said a while back; I am in such pain all the time.' They tested for this too. Negative. Again. He now has the strongest possible painkillers, and claims they don’t work at all. I have these painkillers and they work a treat. The doctor can give him nothing stronger.

He claimed he was depressed about 7 years back and had anti depressants every month for about 2 or 3 years. We had been receiving free prescriptions for a few years (maybe 5 or 6,) because of low income, then 3 years ago, our income exceeded the amount where you get free prescriptions, and when we had to start paying, he instantly came off the anti Depressants. ‘I’m not paying £8 every month!’ he said … Suggesting to me that he didn’t need them.

He doesn’t have much time off work, but he is always buying aids for this and that (like slings, walking sticks, arm and knee supports,) and getting prescriptions at £8-9 a time, (he seems OK with paying now!) So it’s starting to eat into our budget now.

And NOW he says he wants a full body MRI scan and is going to go private to ‘find out what’s wrong with me.......!’ This can cost 4 figures. We don’t have loads of money, we only just get by, and we never have more than £500 in savings, so he said he will put it on his credit card (which will max it out!)

I am furious about this, I am fed up of his moaning, and I want to draw the line here. No WAY is this happening. It’s HIS credit card but it’s OUR bank account and joint finances that will suffer because of this, as he will pay the instalments back out of OUR money.

I want to scream at him ‘FOR GOODNESS SAKE! there is NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU!’ Get a grip! You have had test after test after test and nothing has ever come up!' But I don’t want a row, and I don't want to make him feel bad. Maybe he does feel ill sometimes, (maybe!) but there is definitely nothing wrong with him.

I said ‘what if this MRI scan finds nothing wrong?’ (which is what will happen!) he said ‘I will ask them to redo it because there IS something wrong with me.' (There isn’t!) We are both in our 50's and he has always been a moaner, but it’s only been about his health for about 6-7 years, moreso the last 3 or so!

WWYD? I am at the end of my rope. Some days I feel torn between leaving him or killing him!

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elvislives2012 · 03/02/2017 20:06

The thing is it really annoys me, so I think it's fair enough if it annoys you too. Saying someone has HA doesn't detract from the fact that it's a PITA
I'm a nurse and my DH says it's crap being married to a nurse as he gets no sympathy.... you can imagine my response!

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Olddear · 03/02/2017 21:09

Well, if he's in bed, at least you do t have to listen to the constant whining. My SIL is exactly the same. She checks her blood pressure several times a day, you have a cold, she has pneumonia, you have a headache, she has a migraine..... on and on it goes. She even has 'a voice' she puts on! I'm sorry for those of you with HA, but she can suck the joy out of a room as soon as she walks in. It's very, very draining being in her company.

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 21:34

This is going very badly. Sad

Well he just got up and I said I am sorry if I upset him. He said 'of COURSE you upset me, you called me a hypochondriac, and a liar who is making up shit for attention...! I know how I feel! I know I'm in pain all the time, I know I am suffering. Thanks for making me feel like a lying cheating piece of shit. I won't go to the doctors ever again, and I will never ever complain to YOU ever again; obviously I am getting on your nerves with my lying about being ill all the time, so I shan't bother you again. Don't bother me again though, about anything EVER.'

I tried to tell him that I DIDN'T think he was making it up, and I DIDN'T think he was lying; just that something is amiss if he has had test after test and scan after scan for about 10-12 different things over several years, and nothing has ever come up on any of them.

He said he is never going to the doctors again now, and is not going for the x ray, and he will never moan again about anything and he is SORRY for putting me through soooooo much with his complaining. He has basically gone apeshit, and made out I am a massively inconsiderate horrible cow who is accusing him of lying about being in pain. I am NOT: I believe he feels pain, but I also don't think there is actually anything wrong with him...(physically.)

I just said 'it's almost like you WANT them to find something wrong! I think you would be over the moon if they found you had cancer or something! The disappointment shows in your face when they discover nothing AGAIN.'

I also said 'I think you need to talk to someone; maybe the doctor can refer you to a counsellor..to talk about why you think there are so many things wrong with you, and why you feel pain when nothing is wrong.' 'OH!' he said 'so you want me to go see someone about how I am lying about being in pain?! Fucking dream on!'

And I started to get a bit angry when he got more and more snide and sarcastic with me, and I said 'put yourself in my shoes; what if it was me continually coming up with ailment after ailment, complaining constantly, going to the doctors and the hospital time and time again, complaining about pain during every conservation, every day, a new ailment every few weeks....... After 3 or 4 years of this, would you not be a bit frustrated and pissed off?' Especially if I went for test after test after test, and nothing was wrong?' 'Well thanks for your support!' he said, and stormed out and drove off in the car. I don't even know where he's gone...

Frankly, I am sick of spending hour after hour in hospital waiting rooms, doctors surgeries, x ray departments, and phlebotomy clinics and suchlike, for NOTHING, because NOTHING is wrong with him. And it's all too much now. One ailment after another, nothing ever proven or confirmed.

It's gone as badly as it possibly could have, and I think it's a case of 'the truth hurts' and I sure hit a raw nerve.

It had to be said though, because I can't cope with the 7 days a week moaning and whingeing and complaining any longer... It's been 6 or 7 years now, and particularly bad for the last 3 or so.

I just don't know what to do now.

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BlueNeighbourhood · 03/02/2017 21:35

You've basically called him out on his illnesses, and he's took a huff and disappeared. Because the one person he was guaranteed to be able to use as a sounding board about his illnesses is you and you've told him basically that it's not as bad as it seems.

In regards to his shoulder, you can tell him if it was anything serious he would really know about it. Doctors don't even advise for it to go in a sling because it doesn't get the muscle moving and the person becomes reliant on it. And also not going to the same doctor, he must realise what he's doing!

I still believe it's Munchausens, because of all these bandages, slings, fiddling with them so everyone remembers to have sympathy and ask how he is, giving him another excuse to complain again! From what I understand people with HA try as little as possible to inconvenience everyone else as I don't think they want to be poorly, they're just totally paranoid they are. I don't think these people would put their arm in a sling and make up pain.

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ClaudiaNaughton · 03/02/2017 21:38

It's reminding me of the man who had carved on his gravestone "I told you I was ill". Seriously, you need to get him to some talking therapy somehow. How will it be when he's retired and has all day to concentrate on his health with you as the only listener?

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Olddear · 03/02/2017 21:43

He's being defensive because he's been 'caught' and why are you attending all these appointments with him?

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BlueNeighbourhood · 03/02/2017 21:44

Also if his shoulder is so bad it needs to be in a sling, he certainly wouldn't be able to drive!
After my injury I had a minor tear and wasn't allowed to drive for two weeks. So it's funny how he's managed to storm out and be able to use his shoulder to drive!

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Doodlebug5 · 03/02/2017 21:48

I think he needs some help. I have inflammatory arthritis and even when I was at my worst I hated using a walking stick. I hated parking in the disabled bay. I hated people helping me up the stairs. I didn't want it. It was a horrible time in my life. Even now if my knee flares up I will do everything possible to not have to admit defeat.
If he's almost glamorising the use of medication supports etc then there is something wrong.

I think you have called him out on it and he doesn't like it. Hopefully he calms down and starts to see your POV but I doubt it sorry

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 21:58

Yeah I wouldn't have thought he would be able to drive either if his arm has come out of its socket, and yes on reflection yeah maybe he is angry because I have called him out. Then again, I really do think that he still thinks he feels pain and I am a bitch of wife for saying 'actually there really is nothing wrong sorry... and you drive me a bit loopy whining every day!'

I wonder what they think of him at work actually, as he is going in every other week claiming he can't do this and and that because of this new ailment and that new ailment...

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 21:59

Yeah doodlebug, I don't think he will see my POV because as I said, he believes there is something wrong with him as he feels pain alllll the time (apparently!) So I am just a nasty cow who is calling him a liar evidently!

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FaithAgain · 03/02/2017 22:04

I do sympathise with you. My DH has health anxiety. It peaked a couple of months ago. It reached the point where he was crying on me daily because he was convinced he was dying....because his skin was itchy Hmm However he hates the doctors so avoided going for weeks too. He had convinced himself he had weeks to live. I had a great difficulty to not just shout YOU'RE NOT DYING! but obviously I didn't because it wouldn't have helped. I did finally persuade him to see the GP. He started on meds and had blood tests (all fine). He is much better now, waiting for counselling.

However...on the flip side. I have chronic pain. Blood tests are fine. CT was fine. Ultrasound scan and colonoscopy (oh that was unpleasant!) were normal. So (on the advice of a friend who is a GP) I've asked for a rheumatology referral to see if there's anything they can pick up. It's pretty crap having chronic pain that has no obvious cause. Even I wonder if it's psychosomatic?! I do think I'd struggle if DH questioned it too (he's been very supportive). I have also started on medication for anxiety because I do struggle. It's helped the anxiety but the pain is unchanged, unfortunately.

Has your DH ever seen a rheumatologist? I see other people have queried fibro...it could explain all his aches and pains. I think a lot of people with conditions like fibro, ME are written off as hypochondriacs before they are diagnosed.

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Girliefriendlikesflowers · 03/02/2017 22:05

He sounds awful op does he have any good points?!

He sounds selfish, self obsessed, lacking in empathy and a complete PITA, I couldn't live with someone like that tbh.

What will you do if he doesn't change or seek help for his mental health problem?

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Cherrysoup · 03/02/2017 22:07

Dear God, I feel for you, OP. My fil was like this, eventually he put himself in a wheelchair, said even oramorph wasn't working. My mil used to have frantic whispered conversations about how she was plotting to murder him. Of course when he died (of nothing anyone saw coming!) she was devastated. They'd become very isolated because he made himself housebound. So sad. He had several breakdowns earlier in his life, definite mental health issues. My dh occasionally mentions issues, has regular appointments with an osteopath just for general maintenance. I do worry how he's going to be in the future.

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FilledSoda · 03/02/2017 22:15

His reaction to you , his total anger shows that bloody well knows you are right.

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BlahBlahBland · 03/02/2017 22:17

I have health anxiety, but I do my best to manage it myself without being a nuisance to dh.

Just as a note of caution though, I have a family member who has spent years doing this, he was diagnosed last year with Ehlers Danlos, it changed his life, having gone through years of being accused of malingering, munchausens and wasting dr's time.
Your dh may very well be anxious (and I can assure you effects can be very real!), but there are little known conditions that are slowly becoming more recognised.

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 22:18

Thanks for the responses. Faith, he has had tests for RA, and they were negative, he also suggested to the doc (some months back) that it could be fibromyalgia, but they did tests and ruled that out, he has different pains and ailments every few weeks, and the one he had last month is forgotten about, so I do think he is imagining it. I honestly don't think he has any more pains than any other man on his 50's.

He does have good points, and we get on well and have things in common, but he gets on my nerves about 20-25% of the time tbh. Moans about his health, moans about work, everyone is wrong but him, has no hobbies, can be a bit clingy, but we do have good times together and he is ok more of the time than he isn't iyswim.

Oddly, the other day, a girl from work DM'd him on facebook and said 'how's your shoulder?' and she DM'd me and asked me the same question. Later that day one of his other colleagues asked me how his shoulder was and how DH's appointment went at the hospital the other day... (when he went about his shoulder.......) He hasn't actually BEEN about his shoulder; not yet anyway. Only the doctors. So i do wonder now what he has been telling them!

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FaithAgain · 03/02/2017 22:33

Ah, fair enough. It really does sound like they've ruled out all likely physical causes then. I guess the question is, can you live with it? Do you have strategies for tolerating this behaviour?

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 22:40

re tolerating his behaviour, I switch off and ignore him and just say 'mmm' mostly, but this week, it's come to a head because of him saying he wants to get a full body MRI scan (which he claims is £199 but I doubt it!) to find out what is 'wrong' with him!

What also pissed me off was the constant gripping his shoulder and whining and grunting and moaning all through a programme we were watching this afternoon, and pulling the sling on and off. (After sweeping into the kitchen with a huge sigh to retrieve it from the cupboard!) I was getting sooooo annoyed! It was like he was desperate for me to say 'are you OK?' 'what's wrong?' but the fact is - and I KNOW it sounds horrible - the fact is; I didn't give a shit, because I am tired of his moaning.

I don't think I CAN stand his moaning anymore, and feel right now that I don't care if he doesn't come back, because he has driven me to this and now he has swanned off and made me out to be the bad guy,

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Sallystyle · 03/02/2017 22:41

I still believe it's Munchausens, because of all these bandages, slings, fiddling with them so everyone remembers to have sympathy and ask how he is, giving him another excuse to complain again! From what I understand people with HA try as little as possible to inconvenience everyone else as I don't think they want to be poorly, they're just totally paranoid they are. I don't think these people would put their arm in a sling and make up pain.

I think I'm leaning on this side now. However, he might not be making up the pain. My pain is very real, it's just caused by my head apparently. I don't wear slings, I don't ask for sympathy for my pains. I do ask for reassurance but the more I read the more less likely it seems like it is HA. Especially with the tale about going to the hospital when he hadn't been.

It is manifesting in a way that I haven't seen in HA sufferers before. Of course I don't know everyone with HA out there but I have spoke to many sufferers over the years.

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FaithAgain · 03/02/2017 22:50

It does sound like there's an attention seeking element to it. I suppose I worry how people see me because I do what I can to ease my difficulties. I was in the changing room at work and a colleague saw me applying deep heat to my sore shoulder. She said Oh it's always something with you, isn't it? which made me feel like I was making it up. I was in hospital with what I have now back in August. A few people know I was in, very few people know it's still ongoing. It only really comes up when they see me chowing down on yet more painkillers. It sounds like your DH wants people to ask about it?

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 22:56

Hmmmm, I see where you're coming from with M. syndrome, but I don't think it is that, as he seems to genuinely think he can feel pain (unless he is a very good liar........which could be possible as he is manipulative and passive aggressive.)

I read up on M. syndrome

People with it can behave in a number of ways...

pretending to have psychological symptoms – for example, claiming to hear voices or claiming to see things that aren't really there

pretending to have physical symptoms – for example, claiming to have chest pain or a stomach ache

actively trying to get ill – such as deliberately infecting a wound by rubbing dirt into it

The 2nd one is true, but not the other 2. Is he pretending though or does he actually feel pain? I don't know.

He did get very angry and upset and defensive when I suggested it may be imagined though.

Also I read.....

Some people with Munchausen's syndrome may spend years travelling from hospital to hospital feigning a wide range of illnesses. When it's discovered they're lying, they may suddenly leave hospital and move to another area.

People with Munchausen's syndrome can be very manipulative and, in the most serious cases, may undergo painful and sometimes life-threatening surgery, even though they know it's unnecessary.

This applies a bit, although i don't think he would move areas.

Some of the symptoms sound like M. syndrome, but not that many.

So I am not sure.

Is it M. Syndrome? Health anxiety? Or is he just a lying, attention seeking little shit who has been called out?

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tobedo · 03/02/2017 23:13

On a very serious note OP, may I just give you, and anyone else with a similar partner, a small word of warning. I was so intent on proving to my DH that you didn't need to visit the doctor continually, that I now have a quite serious medical condition through neglecting my own health.

Just saying.

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 23:20

Sorry to be rude/ignorant but I'm not sure what you mean ^

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user1484750550 · 03/02/2017 23:34

Re the question why do I go to the hospital with him? I guess because I am his wife and I want to support him and be there for him. Despite all this though, and the amount of times I have used my own time/taken time off work to take him to the hospital and clinics, and gone to the doctors with him, and spent hours and hours with him in these hospitals and clinics, (sometimes driving him there too!) gone out getting meds and aids for his 'poorly joints' etc, and spent years listening daily to his gripes and whines, and done multiple things for him because his arm/leg/elbow/head/arse hurt; I am still the wicked witch of the west for suggesting he isn't terminally ill. He will now never go to the doctor again, and will never moan again, but never wants to hear me moan again either. (Fine! I rarely do!)

He just came in. Slammed the front door, swanned off to bed. Fuck him. I was upset and weepy when he went out, and now i just feel furious. How dare he make me feel like shit? I have done nothing wrong.

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tobedo · 03/02/2017 23:35

Sorry OP, it probably doesn't apply to you at all, but I never went to the docs when I should of, I just didn't want to compete with DH.

I was so focused on him and his never ending health issues that I stupidly neglected my own.

All I really mean I suppose is, don't forget to look after yourself.

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