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I've done a terrible thing and I've backed myself into a corner

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HaraKiri · 26/01/2017 09:18

NC for this but have been around for eons - pouffe of poo, super soakers, aitch, Cod, morningpaper etc.

I'm married with three young DC all under 4, marriage is ok, not amazing, but with so many young DC we are clearly in the toughest part and just about coping. We both agreed our family isn't complete yet and we want another child now, close in age, and get all the baby/toddler stuff over in one go.

My work Christmas party before xmas, I got ridiculously drunk. I was stupid and drunk more wine/shots than I've ever done before, and I slept with someone from work, unprotected. It sounds like I'm excusing my own beyond shit behaviour but I've never done anything like that before or since, and I haven't touched a drop of alcohol since and won't again. FWIW, I had thrown up over myself in the cab, the "OM" said he and the cab driver had to carry me up to the OMs house because I couldn't walk, and yet OM and I still had sex. I don't remember anything and don't believe I had the capacity to consent. I never said anything after - just told OM it was a massive mistake and it would never happen again, and we have had no further contact.

I didn't take the morning after pill or anything after, god knows why. My head was a mess anyway and I didn't think I would get pregnant anyway - wasn't my fertile days etc.

Except the thing is, I did get pregnant this month, and the sex with work colleague was 3 days before my "fertile window". I had sex with DH throughout the month, including on fertile days.

When I found out I was pregnant, I knew I would have to have a termination, despite how badly I want this baby, I couldn't risk that there was a chance, however small, it could be another mans. The ramifications for that baby and my existing children would be too much. I booked a termination with much regret and swore I would never breathe a word to anyone and living with this pain alone was a punishment I deserved.

Then DH noticed I was puking in the mornings etc, and begged me to take a test. I tried so many ways to get out of it, and couldn't, so DH knew I was pregnant and was thrilled, but I knew I still had to terminate, and that I would have to lie to him and say I miscarried.

Despite me begging him not to, he told our families who were also thrilled. There are so many people I have to lie to now.

I had a miscarriage a few years back after DC2 and it almost broke me, I was devastated and so was everyone around me. I'm going to have to lie to them all and pretend to do it again and the guilt is killing me already, but I can't keep this baby.

I can't see a way out. I can't tell the truth, I honestly can't. The act alone is bad enough but the lying that has followed is unforgivable. Telling the truth would end our family, ruin the lives of my girls.

But I can't eat, can't sleep, it hurts to breathe. I've fucked my life up so bad.

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Lucy7400 · 27/01/2017 14:19

broody surely thats only the case if the midwife/ doctor know. The OP could arrange the termination privately soit ont appear on her records.

broodybrooder · 27/01/2017 14:24

Lucy I don't know, I've no idea. My termination was NHS so plain to see on my records. I'm not sure if Private means it's not on the records. One to check though and something to be aware of.

sarahnova69 · 27/01/2017 14:27

I'm surprised so many midwives are so careless, tbh. At my first booking in appointment my midwife asked me privately if I had had any terminations, miscarriages or births my partner didn't know about.

broodybrooder · 27/01/2017 14:29

I've just googled and you can stop it being put on your medical records. In the same vein though, a recent 'miscarriage' won't be on there either.

A concerned husband might bring up the miscarriage himself with the doctor/midwife etc.

It's obviously way in to the future, just something to bear in mind and take steps to avoid

Ehlana · 27/01/2017 14:35

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DubiousCredentials · 27/01/2017 14:43

Hmm I assume you are referring to the rapist there Ehlana?

broodybrooder · 27/01/2017 14:44

^
Right because that was a "decision" she made.

Well done ehlana you sound lovely

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ICantThinkOfAUsernameH · 27/01/2017 14:55

What a lovely person you seem Elhana Hmm

BastardGoDarkly · 27/01/2017 14:57

Odfo Elhana

How are you op?

BlueCube · 27/01/2017 15:04

I haven't read the full thread OP so apologies if I'm missing something, but do you really think you could go through with an abortion knowing that it could be (is probably most likely to be?) your DH's child? just in case it's the child of the man who raped you? (because that's what it was, no matter how much "flirting" you were doing earlier in the evening).
I saw another poster earlier on suggesting that the harmony test could be used to establish paternity in utero - sorry, haven't seen if anyone has refuted that as I haven't RTFT but if it was me I'd be looking into that for sure. You can have that from 10 weeks.
What an absolutely horrific situation for you to be in, I'm so sorry you're going through this. I think I'd be doing anything I could to establish the paternity before doing anything drastic. Then, if I found out it was my DH's I would think about whether to tell him about the rape, as a separate issue. You will need support for that. If I found out the baby was the rapist's I would then start to process all of that and decide what to do, and whether to tell my DH. One step at a time, if possible.

SandyY2K · 27/01/2017 15:05

A private termination isn't on your medical records, as long as you don't tell your GP. The clinic will not pass that information on.

LonginesPrime · 27/01/2017 15:22

I agree that the OP's DH is likely to want to be involved in the appointments and is likely to bring up the subject of the MC next time round when OP is pregnant again in the future, from how she's described his actions so far. OP couldn't prevent him from making her take a pregnancy test or telling their families, so I don't see how she'll be able to stop him coming to the appointments.

OP, if you do decide to keep it a secret from your DH, you'll need to plan what to say to avoid the truth coming out later. For example, what if your husband makes you go to your GP following the 'miscarriage'? It seems like your DH doesn't take no for an answer.

Patienceisvirtuous · 27/01/2017 17:01

I've had three miscarriages. The only time DH has attended med appointments with me is for pregnancy scans.

OP can say she'd rather go alone (to med appointments).

Hissy · 27/01/2017 18:05

There is no perfect solution to this lovely OP, however the only solution is the one YOU are comfortable with.

If you can't find out the DNA for sure now, then nobody would blame you for wanting to take the decision not to proceed with the pg.

I also agree that you were raped and I wish only that you can somehow find the support you so need to work this stuff through.

If we can help, please lean away. There are lots of amazing people here who can and will support you for as long as you need.

tillytown · 27/01/2017 18:54

Op, you're the one who has to live with this, so do what's right for you. I'm sorry you are going through this, but you don't have to do it alone, there are always people you can talk too, either in real live or on here Flowers None of this is your fault.

SauvignonBlanche · 28/01/2017 15:52

Sorry for what you're going though, I hope you get the help you need. Flowers

Purplebluebird · 30/01/2017 09:22

How are you doing?

Cricrichan · 30/01/2017 09:34

I'm so sorry op. I too think you were raped. Please tell your husband.

Thinkingofausername1 · 30/01/2017 11:56

Hi Op. yes you got drunk but it sounds to me like your drinks were possibly spiked. I think if the other man truly cared about you he would have got you home safely. He knew you were married, he knew, you were not able to consent and I think you have every right to report him, once you've told your dh.

shovetheholly · 30/01/2017 12:22

I keep thinking about you, OP, and wondering how you are getting on. I really hope you are OK. Flowers

keepingonrunning · 30/01/2017 13:38

On the night itself, I got the cab back with OM and some other people were going to follow to continue drinking, but apparently no cabs were coming later or something so they didn't end up coming
Did OM tell you this? He might have been lying about others following, to persuade you back to his place in a calculated move.
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SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 30/01/2017 18:47

I had a termination on the NHS, via a BPAS clinic.

They asked me whether I wanted a discharge letter to be sent to my GP or not. They definitely don't do it automatically.

How are you now OP?

HaraKiri · 30/01/2017 21:54

I'm ok actually, thanks. I've made the decision to definitely terminate. Pre-natal DNA testing doesn't seem feasible, as it can only be done after 8 weeks of pregnancy, results taking 10-14 days to come back, and I need to terminate before 9 weeks if I want a medical (tablet) termination, as opposed to a surgical one, which I know I couldn't cope with emotionally.

Also, I suspect people at work know that I had sex with OM as there is the odd joke that implies they know. If a baby suddenly resulted, even if I had tested and knew for sure it was DH's and told OM there was a baby and dates were close but it wasn't his, there are too many other people who may wonder if it's his etc. I just want it all behind me and never mentioned again, and sadly, terminating this baby is the best way of ensuring that.

I'm sad about all the events that have led to this, but it's the best course of action for protecting the lives of my existing children.

The termination is booked in with Marie Stopes, and I know I'll be fine. I'll get over this and move on, I just want it all behind me now.

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inlectorecumbit · 30/01/2017 22:05

Also, I suspect people at work know that I had sex with OM as there is the odd joke that implies they know.

OP they think they know by what they have been told probably by OM. Deny deny deny. Good luck for the future--but please watch your drink next time
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