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Thread for those who have left marriages that weren't AWFUL, just unsatisfying (pt. III) (1000 Posts)

380 replies

Porffor · 20/01/2017 23:40

As the title says - carried forward from first two threads.

OP posts:
IronNeonClasp · 26/04/2017 06:53

HotWater. It's hard to believe it's a year. I'm sure I have all of this to come during the transition. When and if I am able to take one he house and as soon as I have given him his cheque I was going to buy new doors (front/back) as ultimate excuse to change locks :)

IronNeonClasp · 26/04/2017 07:02

Valuation is Tuesday so I have time to do a couple of bits. I just have to try and replace the bath/bath tap (have messaged my plumber) and have a lintel put over the window out back on Saturday before the valuation Tuesday !! My next door neighbour took the render off the back wall and by the waste pipe it exposed a hole and the cement pushed out. It looks like subsidence so valuator could easily knock 5k off so neighbour said he will sort Sat.
Luckily there's time. Unless the back of the house falls off then I'm screwed :/

restlessat50 · 26/04/2017 08:27

I have been playing a waiting game since last sept when I said I couldn't mend the fences dh wanted we are awaiting inheritance and as a result he won't agree to put house on market and has refused to move out saying I can go if I wish but I can't afford to. I am worried if I move out he won't agree to selling the house and then I am out on a limb on a weak wicket.

I am tired of this situation, I can see why people do stay together it is so exhausting separating and costly some probably just run out of fight at times I think why can't I just mend the fence but I just can't. He says he has changed but I am not so sure and I have no attraction for him anymore and he won't accept a 'living' arrangement without sex until our dd finishes school like some friends have done. He wants the full monty or not at all there is no middle ground. So seems there is no other option

shandybass · 27/04/2017 08:00

Poor you restless. I was in that arrangement no sex separate beds situation and dh was happy to continue, but I wasn't and feel so much better to have parted.
Iron good luck with the house, valuations are quite arbitrary, do your own research of similar houses on the area as a difference of £15k can often be down to a valuers preferences.
Hot hi so glad things are moving on for you and you're almost over the biting the lip stage. I'm feeling a bit bad in that I am the one who has moved out and have been back and for getting stuff from the house. We agreed on a financial split for the big furniture stuff, but as far as I was concerned the little stuff was 50:50 other than his tools and things we had before marriage or personal gifts. It has meant he's had to buy a few things like an iron etc but I still think he had the best deal, because there was loads of small stuff we couldn't split like lampshades, rugs, pictures which I've had to buy and it does mount up. Just for you to see the other side. Mind I always felt bad going back to the house and always told him but tried to do it without him or dcs being there. Yesterday was my final trip and it is a relief.
Although I still will want to borrow gardening / diy stuff from time to timeConfused.

Hotwaterbottle1 · 27/04/2017 08:23

Shandy, that's good to hear it from the other side. Like your ex I have got the best deal from all the little stuff & I don't mind him taking stuff. It's more the just walking in & helping himself whilst I'm there. It feels very intrusive. Feels like I still can't relax in my own home. It would be better if he said he was coming over, whilst I'm out and that he was taking xyz. After a few weeks I'd expect he would have everything he needed. He will also have to access the tool shed which I don't mind at all. I just need him to text in advance.

PatButchersEarring · 27/04/2017 14:31

Hi Ladies. Long time lurker going through similar to others.

DP here of 10 years. 2 kids. One girl nearly 8 and a boy, nearly 2. I'll be 42 this year. Him 45.

I'm not convinced we've ever been particularly well suited to be honest. He's not a bad man, but not a particularly nice one at times either (to me, at least).

We went through counselling about 5 years ago. Instigated by me. He is/was prone to periods of being withdrawn coupled with mood swings. At the time, I thought it was probably brought about by his (excessive) weed smoking habit. During that time he lied out of his arse to me about having stopped etc. Of course, he hadn't. I agreed to give it another go after he referred himself for drug addiction counselling and (apparently genuinely) stopped.

Since then, his mood swings have pretty much gone- and at times- we get on brilliantly and have a good life together. So much so, we had our little boy.

DP is extremely supportive in a practical sense. Does pretty much everything around the home. Supported me through a degree, supportive of my hobbies etc in that he will look after our kids and the house whilst I get on with whatever it is I want to do.

BUT he is just so...joyless. I wake up in the morning, wanting to chat, be silly with the kids and show some enthusiasm for the day ahead. He rolls over and pretends to be asleep. It's also nigh on impossible to get a conversation out of him. I get one word answers to any questions and he shows little genuine interest in anything I say. He also seems to avoid me and the kids in our own house- finding stuff to do for hours on end in another room whilst listening to sport. In fact, the only time I ever see him show any genuine interest in pretty much anything is when it's sport related.

Just recently, he has taken to staying up until the small hours, drinking and watching sport, and then falling asleep on the sofa. I then get woken up in the middle of the night as he lays on the remote and the volume goes up. He then comes up to bed 3 or 4 am. Our little boy wakes around 5.30 am. This is happening 3 or 4 times per week. I have told him that it upsets me and disturbs my sleep. He still does it. He can't help falling asleep, apparently. Other stuff is things like not noticing or not caring if I'm crying. Also occasionally coming out with (in my opinion) unpleasant stuff about other people for no good reason. I don't know- I think I just find him..cold hearted. He would say though that I am just being negative about him.

In a nutshell, I feel wretchedly lonely with him. But I'm also petrified of what would happen if we split. Both in terms of upsetting the kids, me being even lonelier, him being lonely and also me coping on a practical and financial level. I currently work from home (a contributing factor to my loneliness probably). I have no family. Both my parents died young. My sister, although kindly has her own issues and my brother lives on the other side of the planet.

I don't want to be poor me- I know there are others who have been in worse situations and have made it out the other side. I just don't know what to do for the best.

Thanks for reading. It's good yo get it off my chest, and as someone else said up thread, may be useful to have a record of how I feel.

Love to all.

IronNeonClasp · 27/04/2017 15:24

PatButchersEarring - Welcome Flowers.

Are you willing to live in this relationship for the next 20 years?

This is the start of your journey. Most importantly- you deserve to be happy!

shandybass · 28/04/2017 22:11

As Iron says Pat, this is the start of your journey. A lot of what you say totally resonates with me and what ground me down to think that although it's crazily stressful and hard work, restless, splitting up was the right thing.
Whatever happens hugs and wine to all.

Giraffey1 · 29/04/2017 00:59

Hello,earring lady!
I think we sometimes assume that if we aren't in violent, or otherwise vile relationships, we somehow need to rise above this and carry on with our marriages. But I am coming to realise that there are all kinds of dysfunctional relationships and that happiness, or at least, contentment with our lot, is something we should all be able to access.
If you love your husband, please talk to him about how you are feeling. If you don't, also talk to him! My h and I were rubbish at this ( or at least, he was rubbish at listening to me ) and we are now splitting up.

shandybass · 01/05/2017 00:53

Yes giraffey we are split up because he wouldn't work at it and I wouldn't put up with it. End of the road. Sad but true.

IronNeonClasp · 01/05/2017 10:21

How's everyone doing? I am at my Mums last 2 nights, back today. Tomorrow is D-Day for the valuation- I am shitting myself as basically everything is resting on one persons opinion (value) of my house! Gah Confused

MagnumPieEye · 01/05/2017 12:49

PatButchers - I totally understand where you're at. My ex was also supportive but joyless. I would dread spending time with him and resented Christmas and bank holidays as it would mean more time with him. He has no friends and we never socialised as a couple.

We're now separating and I'm looking forward to life without feeling guilty for going out and without constantly having push to the back of my mind how bleak my future looked with him.

We will stay in touch for our little boy but it feels so good to be free.

Monkeybunkey · 02/05/2017 09:55

Hello all. I posted on a previous thread around Christmas time about my situation (separate rooms, no sex life, he's selfish and lazy and totally unsupportive) and foolishly decided not to leave him then as he promised things would change. Surprise, surprise, nothing's changed and we had "the conversation" on Sunday and agreed that this was the end. I'm swinging between relief that I can start planning a life on my own and fear that I'll be alone for ever. It's definitely the right thing to do though, although there'll be complications (joint mortgage etc. although thankfully no kids). Flowers and Brew for everyone in this situation.

IronNeonClasp · 03/05/2017 16:50

Quick update. I got the mortgage!! So chuffed :)

IronNeonClasp · 07/05/2017 20:01

How are you all? This thread seems to be dying :(

LegoStarWars · 07/05/2017 21:23

Oh that's brilliant news Iron!

Just in waiting mode here. Plan is for me to move out at the start of the summer. I need to wait in order to save money but it's still really difficult, especially with all the bank holidays enforcing family time. Just trying to keep the end in sight.

STBXH was just away for a couple of nights with work so I got to sleep in a bed instead of on the sofa for the first time in months!

Still v v few people that know. Trying to keep it that way as DS doesn't know yet and seems unfair, but also I find it ridiculously difficult to tell people. Still really have no idea how to tell my parents.

IronNeonClasp · 07/05/2017 21:37

Hey Lego! TVM! Still elated and waiting for something to take it away from me!

Purchased a sofa bed via gumtree today so looking forward to a 'proper' sleep tonight :) He is still in the marital 'bed' but he can take that pissed on bed with him when he goes. Am hoping this week 🤗

Much love to lurkers and PP's FlowersFlowers

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MyPatronusIsAUnicorn · 07/05/2017 22:49

Hi all.

I'm only part way through reading this thread. I was aware of the existance of the other 2 threads but never took part.

I don't know what I want. I don't feel happy I guess. I'm quite snappy and grumpy. DH buries his head in the sand and never even asks what's wrong. He thinks I'm impatient and fed up when the kids are annoying me, but when he goes away for work, it's so different. I'm less moody, tolerate more and generally feel more chilled.

But, I don't work, I have a long term illness that makes work difficult although I'm looking but having zero luck. DH pays the main bills. Everything is in joint names but we have separate finances and always have done. We have a mortgage which DH pays but I paid the deposit with an inheritence which was more than 50%. I feel quite trapped. And guilty. DH hasn't done anything wrong and in some ways I don't want to actually split up, and we would both be bloody skint. But on the other hand, I really really don't want sex with him and we haven't slept together in a very long time. He puts this down to the fact I've always had issues due to abuse. But it isn't just that. I just don't want sex with him. Which is awful and I feel so bad.

barnburntdown · 07/05/2017 22:54

Hello ladies. I've not been in here for ages. I wanted to update/inspire and congratulate you strong ladies hot water shandy lost and lonely and especially the lovely iron neon clasp! I am so happy that you are at the valuation stage! Wow!

Where I am at: 10 months post split, i took 2 months off work at the end of last year - stress. Exp was harassing me constantly. This ceased briefly for a couple of months during which time it later emerged that he was having an affair with my married friend and colleague. I'm pretty proud of how i'd weathered the storm and this and other recent behaviours has confirmed sooo much i did the right thing.

He has been incredibly self absorbed and in victim mode. I don't reapond to his baiting/gaslighting or woe is me script. He claims to be depressed but is still taking coke every single weekend, refuses ant depressants and is shagging women literally half his age. He has made it explicit that he resents his kids. The 2 nights hw has thwm he can't cope/gets a babysitter. They arrive home half dressed and having had porridge for dinner and dvds all weekend. My 3 year old is struggling but y 6 year old is fine.

He has described them as a 500pcm noose around his neck. I have this in writing. Just oh my god.

We are currently starting mediation but he is determined to chase after 27k. My own solicitor said 10k. The mediators suggested 18k and i would ve gone with that.

Despite all this i do not for a minute regret my decision! 9 months on and i am the happiest i have been in years! I'm learning to love my own company, dating a lovely guy at the moment too but its all v chilled.

Keep the faith ladies. It may get a little worse before it gets better but you can do this. I practice yoga a lot and this helps too.

waves pompoms

See you on the legal forums xxx

IronNeonClasp · 08/05/2017 16:23

Chipshopninja- you really need to do whatever is going to make you happy. If you are dreaming about living on your own with your baby and dog why is that not viable? To live in sadness is not feasible. To live life happy is your right.

Unicorn - do you think you could do counselling or are you past that stage?

Barnburntdown- what a bloody strong woman you sound. I'm so happy for you!

Hurleygirl123 · 09/05/2017 21:37

Not checked in for while, really feel for those still contemplating separation.. Don't doubt your instincts, if you feel its not right then it's not.
Great to hear things are moving on, I'm 3 months down line and not regretted my decision once, I feel sorry for my ex but he should have grown up a long time ago, women are too good at sympathy sometimes and it's confusing...we all have to live our lives. Flowers

IronNeonClasp · 11/05/2017 07:36

Woken up this am as I am every morning by his routine. He's so noisy. But it was on purpose this morning because he couldn't find something. I was counting down the days, but now I'm counting down the hours. Hanging in by a thread...

IronNeonClasp · 11/05/2017 08:01

Just re-read my posts in this thread. I'll have to read the other two threads again. I can't believe my journey to date. Three months of to-ing and fro-ing! If only I had realised/trusted that I could take on my house, which for two months I thought I was seriously going to lose. I was ready to walk away from my life and all my stuff. Last night I went up into the attic which I've always left him to organise.. what an absolute shit pit. Managed to sort two bin bags and that's just the start.

Such a sad time.. And having the balls to say "we're done here - right?" And now realising how shitty he's been, his behaviour and the shit I have put up with over the years! I cannot tell you how free I feel.

There is hope friends and lurkers.

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