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How do I make my narcissistic mother leave my flat?

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purplewild60 · 26/12/2016 16:40

Please help. I am a 30 year old daughter of a narcissistic mother who is probably so far on the spectrum she is knocking on the door of a full blown personality disorder with antisocial and OCD traits. She pushed me hard to achieve academic excellence, and I did it - got good grades, good university and graduated with a promising career ahead of me. Although to friends I was calm, collected and fun no one ever met my mother and behind the scenes she was a needy, selfish, paranoid control freak.

Cutting quite a long story short that would require several posts (and probably years of therapy), my mother has used many ways to control me e.g. making my rent a really expensive flat because she liked it, so I couldn’t save for my own place or to buy anything big without asking her for money. She made me give her my bank details, initially so she could “help me move money around” but basically was a way for her to check up on me. I opened another bank account in secret and when she found out she went mad, crying that I don’t trust her and that I must be doing something shady if I didn’t want her to see my outgoings! She also made a record of everything she ever spent on me and said that I needed to pay her back this sum after graduating. We agreed on an amount each month I would give her, even though she didn’t need the money but wanted to recoup her “investment”.

Things came to a head recently when I didn’t pick up her phone and she got annoyed so drew out £2000 from my bank account putting me into overdraft. It was the last straw so I cancelled all my bank accounts that she could access. She says she is entitled to any money I have because she bought me up, and it isn’t enough to pay back all the money I owe her anyhow. After this, I decided I needed to really start removing her hold on my life She has a key to my flat so I changed the locks. When I told her, she just laughed and said “I’ll get a locksmith or knock the door down, you can’t keep me out”. She also says she “helped me choose” this stupidly expensive flat and she has loads of stuff in there so she feels it is as much her flat as mine.

I stuck to my guns, and left the locks changed. I told her we shouldn’t spend Christmas together as things were so bad between us, it hurt so much to do this but she just wouldn’t accept it saying she had booked train tickets so was going to come anyway. I then got a call to say she was outside, had called a locksmith to come, and would deduct the cost of this from the money I owe (seriously?!). It’s all my fault for ruining her Christmas and she is going to make me pay. Luckily I had decided to move all my important stuff out of the flat and stay with friends over Christmas to avoid a confrontation.

I have gone over there in the night and can see the lights on in my flat, so she wasn't bluffing - this woman has illegally gotten into my flat and is staying in there against my will! She has probably changed the locks on me now! Despite very supportive close friends, this has been a dark cloud on my Christmas. After telling me she is inside my flat, I have had no contact with her, she didn’t even call on Christmas day.

I really don’t know what to do at this stage. I have no idea how long she will be in there for, or what she is doing in there. I think her plan is probably to wait me out, and make me beg to get inside my own flat. I have a lot of my things and a place to stay if I need it, but I can’t let her squat there forever. I am still paying the rent and responsible for any damage in the flat until my tenancy is up. I need to break the radio silence and call her up/go over there but I am petrifed of even seeing her right now. Some have told me the only resort is the police, but I have such a deep sense of shame about telling them this crazy drama, I’m also scared they won’t be able to help me, or that my mother will create a huge scene with all my neighbours watching.

If anyone has any kind of similar experience about getting rid of an unwanted person from your property, I would appreciate any advice. It’s especially difficult as she does a great old lady act, she knows I have a lot at stake and she has threatened to sit outside my building or my workplace telling everyone I'm a whore and a thief because I owe her money, and that I am willing to kick my own mother out of my place.

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Lumpylumperson · 26/12/2016 17:06

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Fluffycloudland77 · 26/12/2016 17:07

Notify the landlord and the police. If she causes a scene it only looks bad on her, not you.

Unfortunately no contact is the way forward now.

FlyingElbows · 26/12/2016 17:10

Also from what you've described here, op, your mother is not knocking on the door of a personality disorder, she's right inside hosting a fucking great party! What she's doing and what she's telling you are not normal.

scaryclown · 26/12/2016 17:12

I agree. Call the police.

I rented a flat from.my mothers partner and she would just burst in. i ended up writing a very formal letter advising that the lease was invalid if she entered without permission instructing her not to do so. i had all this 'ypu wouldnt do that..' i did. i.moved out afterwards. she.would refuse to.leave my sisters house when my sister asked and demanded.my sister ended up with severe MH issues. This is serious mental and police re flat,.as well as re bank account. No componise. get hold of the reins.

Sittingunderafrostysky · 26/12/2016 17:12

And taking money from your account is theft.

scaryclown · 26/12/2016 17:13

If you want to scare the shit out of her, call a psychiatric services saying shes gone memtal and is occupying your flat.

HecAteAllTheXmasPud · 26/12/2016 17:14

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Serialweightwatcher · 26/12/2016 17:15

I'm so sorry you are going through this .... I thought I had controlling mother problems!! You really need to take charge over this because she will completely ruin the rest of your life if you let her - you're not being a bad person, it's called self preservation. You need to call the police if you have to and have her removed ... you then need to find somewhere else that she doesn't know about and you decide when you have contact with her, gradually - please don't let this go on any longer - it's so wrong! Just think (assuming you're not) if you were a mother, how would you behave and wouldn't this sound completely wrong to you?? Please take care of yourself

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/12/2016 17:16

Apart from anything else, no normal parent asks their children to pay them back the cost of bringing them up. This is batshit crazy.

Good luck!

ChanandlerBongsNeighbour · 26/12/2016 17:17

Just echoing advice of getting the police involved and also, sending you a bit of support for what sounds like a horrific situation. Hope you can find your way soon.

EweAreHere · 26/12/2016 17:17

Send the police round. Don't go yourself.

GloriaGaynor · 26/12/2016 17:20

Instead of ringing the police cringing and ashamed, just be confident and straightforward: 'I'm terribly sorry but my mad mother has broken into my flat, is squatting there illegally and you are the only means I have of getting her out'.

It doesn't matter if she causes drama with the neighbours because you won't be there.

SquinkiesRule · 26/12/2016 17:22

Bloody hell she really is crackers to put it mildly.
Please call the police and the landlord and let us know you are OK.

deblet · 26/12/2016 17:22

You need to stop paying her. You did not ask to be born and you do not need to pay her back for anything. Go over there and if she opens the door walk past her pulling her out as you go in and lock the door. Lob her stuff out the window. If she does not let you in call the police and do it that way. Then in my opinion you should go NC for a time ,move home and if you want to see her again after a while arrange to meet her somewhere neutral.Do not give her new address. You must know this is not normal behaviour and you could drop a note to her doctor saying she needs help. They will have it on file if anything happens. Please don't let this go on she will grind you down eventually. I hope you can get this sorted. Good luck.

HardLightHologram · 26/12/2016 17:22

She is a thief and a burglar. Call the police. She knows what she's doing, unless she's seriously mentally unwell. She is abusing you horrifically.

ScuttlbuttHarpy · 26/12/2016 17:22

Wow you need to ring the police, if this was a stranger you wouldnt hesitate to, also she chose to give birth to you, you dont owe her for her choice to have you, you are not property, or her investment, she needs counselling if not sectioning, I am so sorry you are going through this.

Patriciathestripper1 · 26/12/2016 17:23

Just confirming what others saying.., ring landlord as s curtesy to make him aware. Ring police and tell them you have an unwanted and uninvited visitor In Your property that you need them to make leave as you fear a breech of the peace and charge get for changing locks. Flowers good luck

SomeKindofNightmare · 26/12/2016 17:27

Get the police to get her out of there and start making plans to move. You say you didn't want the expensive flat in the first place so now's your chance to get the place you want at a price you set. Don't give her your new address. Make sure all your bank accounts etc are secure, change all your passwords and go nc for your own mental wellbeing because she will try to guilt trip you. You will never win with this woman, she will never change, you will 'owe' her your entire life. Be good to yourself, get some counselling for yourself OP, you've obviously been bullied and walked over by this woman your whole life and nows the time to get the life she has stolen from you back. Good luck.

PitilessYank · 26/12/2016 17:31

Do you have any non-nutty older relatives, aunts or uncles, who might accompany you? I fear that she will do her best to mess with you when you go to eject her with the police.

That having been said, I bet you will feel a thrill watching her get scurried out by the police. Hold onto that.

gamerchick · 26/12/2016 17:33

Call the police, have her removed Shock

You don't have to be there, just do it and then start looking to move so she doesn't know where you are.

gamerchick · 26/12/2016 17:37

As for her threats re work. Let your boss know your mother has lost all of her toodles and the police is the only way to remove her.

doodlejump1980 · 26/12/2016 17:40

Oh my goodness! Good luck! She has some serious boundary issues. Are you an only child? Agree with pps, 101 for advice!

SleepFreeZone · 26/12/2016 17:44

My god you poor poor thing, I just want to give you a hug ☹️

TwoLeftSocks · 26/12/2016 17:45

I agree, can 101 and let them know what you've said in your op.

Once she's out, move and don't give her your address.

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 26/12/2016 17:46

Goodness me just call the bloomin police and have her removed. And after that, just move and don't tell her where you've moved too.