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How do I make my narcissistic mother leave my flat?

318 replies

purplewild60 · 26/12/2016 16:40

Please help. I am a 30 year old daughter of a narcissistic mother who is probably so far on the spectrum she is knocking on the door of a full blown personality disorder with antisocial and OCD traits. She pushed me hard to achieve academic excellence, and I did it - got good grades, good university and graduated with a promising career ahead of me. Although to friends I was calm, collected and fun no one ever met my mother and behind the scenes she was a needy, selfish, paranoid control freak.

Cutting quite a long story short that would require several posts (and probably years of therapy), my mother has used many ways to control me e.g. making my rent a really expensive flat because she liked it, so I couldn’t save for my own place or to buy anything big without asking her for money. She made me give her my bank details, initially so she could “help me move money around” but basically was a way for her to check up on me. I opened another bank account in secret and when she found out she went mad, crying that I don’t trust her and that I must be doing something shady if I didn’t want her to see my outgoings! She also made a record of everything she ever spent on me and said that I needed to pay her back this sum after graduating. We agreed on an amount each month I would give her, even though she didn’t need the money but wanted to recoup her “investment”.

Things came to a head recently when I didn’t pick up her phone and she got annoyed so drew out £2000 from my bank account putting me into overdraft. It was the last straw so I cancelled all my bank accounts that she could access. She says she is entitled to any money I have because she bought me up, and it isn’t enough to pay back all the money I owe her anyhow. After this, I decided I needed to really start removing her hold on my life She has a key to my flat so I changed the locks. When I told her, she just laughed and said “I’ll get a locksmith or knock the door down, you can’t keep me out”. She also says she “helped me choose” this stupidly expensive flat and she has loads of stuff in there so she feels it is as much her flat as mine.

I stuck to my guns, and left the locks changed. I told her we shouldn’t spend Christmas together as things were so bad between us, it hurt so much to do this but she just wouldn’t accept it saying she had booked train tickets so was going to come anyway. I then got a call to say she was outside, had called a locksmith to come, and would deduct the cost of this from the money I owe (seriously?!). It’s all my fault for ruining her Christmas and she is going to make me pay. Luckily I had decided to move all my important stuff out of the flat and stay with friends over Christmas to avoid a confrontation.

I have gone over there in the night and can see the lights on in my flat, so she wasn't bluffing - this woman has illegally gotten into my flat and is staying in there against my will! She has probably changed the locks on me now! Despite very supportive close friends, this has been a dark cloud on my Christmas. After telling me she is inside my flat, I have had no contact with her, she didn’t even call on Christmas day.

I really don’t know what to do at this stage. I have no idea how long she will be in there for, or what she is doing in there. I think her plan is probably to wait me out, and make me beg to get inside my own flat. I have a lot of my things and a place to stay if I need it, but I can’t let her squat there forever. I am still paying the rent and responsible for any damage in the flat until my tenancy is up. I need to break the radio silence and call her up/go over there but I am petrifed of even seeing her right now. Some have told me the only resort is the police, but I have such a deep sense of shame about telling them this crazy drama, I’m also scared they won’t be able to help me, or that my mother will create a huge scene with all my neighbours watching.

If anyone has any kind of similar experience about getting rid of an unwanted person from your property, I would appreciate any advice. It’s especially difficult as she does a great old lady act, she knows I have a lot at stake and she has threatened to sit outside my building or my workplace telling everyone I'm a whore and a thief because I owe her money, and that I am willing to kick my own mother out of my place.

OP posts:
PollytheDolly · 02/01/2017 17:35

Fucking hell!!!!

Call the police and dispose of this poisonous bastard from your life forthwith.

Bugger her needing help, you will need lots of help to fully separate from the emotional abuse you have suffered...and you can do it.

I hope you do this asap and move on to have a normal, functioning healthy life.

Fucking narcissists boil my piss!!!
I know more than I need to about these life-sucking, demonic creatures.

PollytheDolly · 02/01/2017 17:38

Oh and when you do. No contact with her. Ever. You will end up being her source of supply again.

LeninaCrowne · 02/01/2017 17:43

I agree well done in going to the Police purple.

Also, if your boss is sympathetic, I agree that you should mention that she may cause problems.

Good luck!

CookieLady · 02/01/2017 17:46

Best of luck removing her from your life. Flowers

BoboBunnyH0p · 02/01/2017 18:13

Flowers stay strong.

Mix56 · 02/01/2017 20:26

Holy Cow, me too, was looking often over the w/e to see if you had been able to go home. Everyone above is making lots of sense.

I would tell my Boss as PP said your mother is going through a mental health breakdown and may try to contact your work maliciously Do not feel ashamed, YOU are the victim

  • I would also tell Landlord, that also she gained entry by changing locks, & frankly there is nothing stopping her doing this again, she is so far out of reality, & she says there are some of her belongings left here..
I would ask him is there is any way of getting out of the lease in view of the danger to you, the building, the other tenants. (sadly fire comes to mind ?)
  • Obviously contact DVLC/police etc re car registration /keys
  • Contact your bank & inform re fraud, change all cards & log ins/ & check she hasn't taken out any loans etc in your name...
  • Change All you log ins, computer, WhatsApp, fb, cloud. She has been in your home doing god knows what to your accounts.

She may be waiting for you at home/work/ She may try again to regain entry. She will most probably not have given up. Any sign of stalking, re entry, flat tyre etc. call the police & get a NON MOL.

I actually think she needs to see a mental health specialist.
Please don't feel any shame, You did not deserve this, & please stop repaying her for being born....

Nirvanababy · 02/01/2017 21:24

You have been so strong and so brave. Your mother has done so many things wrong to you. You have to realise that she is the one with the problem and nothing you say and do now will make her realise she has issues . She's not your problem anymore, she's a grown up like you and must take responsibility for her actions. If, and she probably does, have MH problems then she needs to accept them, and then tackle them. Neither of which you can help with immediately.

springydaffs · 02/01/2017 23:12

Purple, when you look for a therapist on bacp you'll find a long list of therapists in your area. Look through their resume, see who you like the look of, contact them - every one you like the look of! This takes a bit of research, of course (but worth it). Enter into a dialogue by email to begin with, see how you like the response. You can follow this up with a phone call - or many offer a free first session so you can get a feel for them.

Here's the important bit: you have to click with a therapist. Therapists aren't unlike a pair of shoes: they have to fit. They may look good (on paper) but you have to feel comfortable, at ease. It's entirely up to you who you choose. I see it as interviewing therapists when I'm making my choice - you're going to be paying them good money and, crucially, you're going to be entrusting them with your precious inner workings. They're lucky to have the opportunity to work with you.

I've had my fair share of not-so-good therapists (ie the ones I had little choice over due to limited funds). You even learn something from them - what you don't want/agree with etc.

I'm saying all this because I'm concerned the warnings from pp's may put you off - you've held this in for a very long time and may feel you can carry on flying solo. I really wouldn't do this on your own. There is too much here for you to negotiate alone. And a good therapist is worth their absolute weight in gold, so it's good to hunt to find the right one for you.

BonnyScotland · 02/01/2017 23:16

this is truly terrifying... stay strong lady x

springydaffs · 02/01/2017 23:19

bacp

find a therapist in your area (

UnderslungBowlingBall · 03/01/2017 13:46

This sounds like it must be dogshit on toast for you, and I'm sorry it's upset you over Christmas. I agree with previous posters, type the story up or print this out, give it to the police and once she's out of your flat move, change your number and cut the batshit woman out of your life pronto.

purplewild60 · 03/01/2017 17:21

Hi all. Thank you for so much support and advice.

You all deserve another update: I spoke to my boss today, initially just the bare minimum but kinda broke down and ended up telling him everything. He was absolutely lovely and essentially said all the same things you've all told me. He promised to keep it confidential, offered me some time off and said that he wouldn't even bat an eyelid if he was contacted by her.

It's a weight off my mind, all my life I've been so worried about what people would think of me, being told to doubt my own self worth and intuition. This just further proves to me I've got to carry on sorting my life out and not be afraid of her threats anymore.

Have made more progress with my car. Called DVLA and explained the problem and said I still had the original V5C. The guy said I could write a letter with a new postal address, and my V5C explaining the fraud and they would look into rectifying it for me.

OP posts:
22esmeweatherwax · 03/01/2017 17:30

Well done purple for talking to your boss. Hope the DVLA can get the car sorted for you. You have done so well handling all this. Am very proud of you, it can't have been easy.

tribpot · 03/01/2017 17:31

What a great reaction from your boss. There's no reason why anyone should blame you for having a deranged mother, but you have been trained to believe her when she says her behaviour is normal.

Keep putting distance between you and her, and I would ask DVLA how you can make a complaint about the fraud, unless they will investigate that as part of the process of rectifying it.

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 03/01/2017 17:31

Great progress update, Purple. Things are often more straightforwards than you fear. Good to hear how supportive your boss has been too. Keep plugging away at things bitesize like today and you will break free.

chipscheesentomatosauce · 03/01/2017 17:33

Well done, OP. You're finally going to have the sort of life you deserve, and you're managing it in spite of the very person who should have been helping you achieve that all along.

All the best x

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 03/01/2017 17:36

Purple, I take my hat off to you. So sorry you have to go through this. Flowers Just as an aside, almost 20 years ago I had an issue with a former flat mate with a personal, unfounded hatred against me. With hindsight I can see she probably had MH issues. I ended up having to tell my landlord, boss & colleagues someone had it in for me and tried to smear me, and they couldn't have been nicer or more helpful.

JustGettingStarted · 03/01/2017 18:02

I'm so glad that you're dealing with this so well.

Of course your boss is supporting you!

BarryTheKestrel · 03/01/2017 18:42

Purple you are doing so well and being so strong in all of this. Well done for calling the police and telling your boss, you will get through this!

tribpot · 03/01/2017 18:42

Purple, @JsOtherHalf has just posted this useful information on another thread about what to do if you've been the victim of identity fraud:

www.moneysavingexpert.com/credit-cards/identity-fraud

www.cifas.org.uk/pr
Prevention is better than cure
Cifas Protective Registration is a defence against identity fraud for anyone with good reason to think they're at risk, for example:
people who have recently lost personal documents, or had them stolen
customers of organisations that recently lost or leaked sensitive data
anyone who has been advised by the police that they're at risk.
Protective Registration is available for:
individuals who want to protect themselves
organisations who want to protect their customers or staff

How does it work?
When you request Protective Registration, or an organisation requests it for you, we place a warning flag against your name and other personal details in our National Fraud Database.
This tells the hundreds of organisations that use Cifas data to pay special attention when your details are used to apply for their products or services. Knowing you're at risk, they'll carry out extra checks to make sure it's really you applying, and not a fraudster using your details

PickAChew · 03/01/2017 18:47

You beat me to it, tripbot :)

PickAChew · 03/01/2017 18:48

tribpot Blush

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 03/01/2017 19:13

Tripbot has a certain something to it...

JsOtherHalf · 03/01/2017 19:13

Glad to have been of help.

In this case, as the police have been involved, it might be worth contacting victim support too?

www.victimsupport.org.uk/crime-info/types-crime/fraud
You don’t have to report a crime to get our help – anyone affected by crime can contact us directly if they want to.
You can contact us by:
Requesting support online
Contacting your local Victim Support team
Calling our Supportline for free on 08 08 16 89 111 or emailing us

mirokarikovo · 03/01/2017 19:31

You're doing brilliantly Purple. Well done.

In my limited experience the people at DVLA are quite reasonable once they understand a situation. I had to write them a two page letter explaining something very complicated once and they read it carefully and put everything to how it should have been all along without a murmur of objection.

Any update on communicating with your landlord about moving sooner than July?