Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

How do I make my narcissistic mother leave my flat?

318 replies

purplewild60 · 26/12/2016 16:40

Please help. I am a 30 year old daughter of a narcissistic mother who is probably so far on the spectrum she is knocking on the door of a full blown personality disorder with antisocial and OCD traits. She pushed me hard to achieve academic excellence, and I did it - got good grades, good university and graduated with a promising career ahead of me. Although to friends I was calm, collected and fun no one ever met my mother and behind the scenes she was a needy, selfish, paranoid control freak.

Cutting quite a long story short that would require several posts (and probably years of therapy), my mother has used many ways to control me e.g. making my rent a really expensive flat because she liked it, so I couldn’t save for my own place or to buy anything big without asking her for money. She made me give her my bank details, initially so she could “help me move money around” but basically was a way for her to check up on me. I opened another bank account in secret and when she found out she went mad, crying that I don’t trust her and that I must be doing something shady if I didn’t want her to see my outgoings! She also made a record of everything she ever spent on me and said that I needed to pay her back this sum after graduating. We agreed on an amount each month I would give her, even though she didn’t need the money but wanted to recoup her “investment”.

Things came to a head recently when I didn’t pick up her phone and she got annoyed so drew out £2000 from my bank account putting me into overdraft. It was the last straw so I cancelled all my bank accounts that she could access. She says she is entitled to any money I have because she bought me up, and it isn’t enough to pay back all the money I owe her anyhow. After this, I decided I needed to really start removing her hold on my life She has a key to my flat so I changed the locks. When I told her, she just laughed and said “I’ll get a locksmith or knock the door down, you can’t keep me out”. She also says she “helped me choose” this stupidly expensive flat and she has loads of stuff in there so she feels it is as much her flat as mine.

I stuck to my guns, and left the locks changed. I told her we shouldn’t spend Christmas together as things were so bad between us, it hurt so much to do this but she just wouldn’t accept it saying she had booked train tickets so was going to come anyway. I then got a call to say she was outside, had called a locksmith to come, and would deduct the cost of this from the money I owe (seriously?!). It’s all my fault for ruining her Christmas and she is going to make me pay. Luckily I had decided to move all my important stuff out of the flat and stay with friends over Christmas to avoid a confrontation.

I have gone over there in the night and can see the lights on in my flat, so she wasn't bluffing - this woman has illegally gotten into my flat and is staying in there against my will! She has probably changed the locks on me now! Despite very supportive close friends, this has been a dark cloud on my Christmas. After telling me she is inside my flat, I have had no contact with her, she didn’t even call on Christmas day.

I really don’t know what to do at this stage. I have no idea how long she will be in there for, or what she is doing in there. I think her plan is probably to wait me out, and make me beg to get inside my own flat. I have a lot of my things and a place to stay if I need it, but I can’t let her squat there forever. I am still paying the rent and responsible for any damage in the flat until my tenancy is up. I need to break the radio silence and call her up/go over there but I am petrifed of even seeing her right now. Some have told me the only resort is the police, but I have such a deep sense of shame about telling them this crazy drama, I’m also scared they won’t be able to help me, or that my mother will create a huge scene with all my neighbours watching.

If anyone has any kind of similar experience about getting rid of an unwanted person from your property, I would appreciate any advice. It’s especially difficult as she does a great old lady act, she knows I have a lot at stake and she has threatened to sit outside my building or my workplace telling everyone I'm a whore and a thief because I owe her money, and that I am willing to kick my own mother out of my place.

OP posts:
Stuffofawesome · 27/12/2016 14:33

what she is doing is financial and emotional abuse. You do not need to put up with this. Find help and break free.

Randonneur · 27/12/2016 14:34

Just in case the link posted by a pp gets lost, here's the relevant bit from gov.uk (there's more detail on the page about what constitutes squatting etc, but it seems clear t me that your dm is illegally squatting)

How do I make my narcissistic mother leave my flat?
How do I make my narcissistic mother leave my flat?
SealSong · 27/12/2016 14:44

Based on what OP has written, her mother would not be 'sectionable' under the mental health act, even if she was presenting as mentally ill. I say that as a mental health practitioner. There are tight criteria around it. Clearly people posting in here are trying to help but have no idea what 'sectioning' is for and how it happens.

Weatherforecaster · 27/12/2016 15:01

Have you done anything today op?

Wolverbamptonwanderer · 27/12/2016 15:09

It doesn't really matter if she's mentally ill thesilverypussycat- she may well be. Sectioning however, is for people who are an immediate and grave danger to themselves or others, and years of emotional and financial abuse and squatting in someone's house doesn't make them either of thoSe things

Wolverbamptonwanderer · 27/12/2016 15:11

Oops X posted with sealsong there

funnyandwittyusername · 27/12/2016 16:23

THE POLICE CANNOT SECTION IN PRIVATE PROPERTY.

How many more times does this need explaining? Hmm

Newbrummie · 27/12/2016 16:27

So once she's out the front door, it's fair game !

HappyGoLuckyGirl · 27/12/2016 17:06

My good God.

You should definitely go NC. Holy cow.

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:12

Funny and witty. The police CAN AND DID IT TO ME IN MY OWN FLAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO. it's a section 316 or something.

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:14

They carried me out like a bold child with me holding my legs up and them carrying me like a flea.

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:18

They had tried to lure me outside first under the auspices of having a discussion in private haha. I refused that so they spent some time on the phone getting confirmation from their bloody sergeant. The fuckers.
Anyway I guess I'm still alive so I forgive them

funnyandwittyusername · 27/12/2016 17:19

No they can't. Sec 136 can only be used for a person found in a public place. Police can be used to assist an AMHP but THEY (the police) cannot section apart from in public and even then there must be an immediate concern for the patients mental health

funnyandwittyusername · 27/12/2016 17:23

Myoriginal- completely against the rules. (I'm a police officer) They're on very dodgy ground there

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:25

They happily carted me off after extensive talk with their superior. So I beg to differ.

funnyandwittyusername · 27/12/2016 17:28

Beg to differ all you want. You're wrong
www.lancashirecare.nhs.uk/Section-136

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:30

In any case I spent a night in the 316 section roaring that I had been kidnapped lol. They freed me the following day. I can pm my name and area if you wish to confirm

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:30

I'm not fucking wrong! They did it!

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:32

I may be slightly bonkers but I didn't fucking imagine it.

Wolverbamptonwanderer · 27/12/2016 17:33

Weren't they actioning an issued section though? What motivation would they have to section someone in their own home? Confused

That said I must confess at work we generally constrain someone whilst we are awaiting section (who isn't currently under section but will be) even though it's technically assult

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:35

They actually handcuffed me too despite me screaming that they couldn't. They simply told me that they could. I wriggled out of the handcuffs anyway.

gamerchick · 27/12/2016 17:36

I hear you original it's very frustrating when people say that couldn't have possibly happened when you know it did.

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:37

If I had the energy I would consult a solicitor.

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:39

That's exactly it gamerchick.

myoriginal3 · 27/12/2016 17:41

Anyway op, your mother is a lunatic. Call whoever might remove her.