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How do I make my narcissistic mother leave my flat?

318 replies

purplewild60 · 26/12/2016 16:40

Please help. I am a 30 year old daughter of a narcissistic mother who is probably so far on the spectrum she is knocking on the door of a full blown personality disorder with antisocial and OCD traits. She pushed me hard to achieve academic excellence, and I did it - got good grades, good university and graduated with a promising career ahead of me. Although to friends I was calm, collected and fun no one ever met my mother and behind the scenes she was a needy, selfish, paranoid control freak.

Cutting quite a long story short that would require several posts (and probably years of therapy), my mother has used many ways to control me e.g. making my rent a really expensive flat because she liked it, so I couldn’t save for my own place or to buy anything big without asking her for money. She made me give her my bank details, initially so she could “help me move money around” but basically was a way for her to check up on me. I opened another bank account in secret and when she found out she went mad, crying that I don’t trust her and that I must be doing something shady if I didn’t want her to see my outgoings! She also made a record of everything she ever spent on me and said that I needed to pay her back this sum after graduating. We agreed on an amount each month I would give her, even though she didn’t need the money but wanted to recoup her “investment”.

Things came to a head recently when I didn’t pick up her phone and she got annoyed so drew out £2000 from my bank account putting me into overdraft. It was the last straw so I cancelled all my bank accounts that she could access. She says she is entitled to any money I have because she bought me up, and it isn’t enough to pay back all the money I owe her anyhow. After this, I decided I needed to really start removing her hold on my life She has a key to my flat so I changed the locks. When I told her, she just laughed and said “I’ll get a locksmith or knock the door down, you can’t keep me out”. She also says she “helped me choose” this stupidly expensive flat and she has loads of stuff in there so she feels it is as much her flat as mine.

I stuck to my guns, and left the locks changed. I told her we shouldn’t spend Christmas together as things were so bad between us, it hurt so much to do this but she just wouldn’t accept it saying she had booked train tickets so was going to come anyway. I then got a call to say she was outside, had called a locksmith to come, and would deduct the cost of this from the money I owe (seriously?!). It’s all my fault for ruining her Christmas and she is going to make me pay. Luckily I had decided to move all my important stuff out of the flat and stay with friends over Christmas to avoid a confrontation.

I have gone over there in the night and can see the lights on in my flat, so she wasn't bluffing - this woman has illegally gotten into my flat and is staying in there against my will! She has probably changed the locks on me now! Despite very supportive close friends, this has been a dark cloud on my Christmas. After telling me she is inside my flat, I have had no contact with her, she didn’t even call on Christmas day.

I really don’t know what to do at this stage. I have no idea how long she will be in there for, or what she is doing in there. I think her plan is probably to wait me out, and make me beg to get inside my own flat. I have a lot of my things and a place to stay if I need it, but I can’t let her squat there forever. I am still paying the rent and responsible for any damage in the flat until my tenancy is up. I need to break the radio silence and call her up/go over there but I am petrifed of even seeing her right now. Some have told me the only resort is the police, but I have such a deep sense of shame about telling them this crazy drama, I’m also scared they won’t be able to help me, or that my mother will create a huge scene with all my neighbours watching.

If anyone has any kind of similar experience about getting rid of an unwanted person from your property, I would appreciate any advice. It’s especially difficult as she does a great old lady act, she knows I have a lot at stake and she has threatened to sit outside my building or my workplace telling everyone I'm a whore and a thief because I owe her money, and that I am willing to kick my own mother out of my place.

OP posts:
LeninaCrowne · 03/01/2017 19:52

I'm pleased your boss is understanding OP.

I also think the DVLA are quite reasonable, I had to contact them re someone trying to fraudulently use my address.

I would also contact the post office just in case she's put a re-direct on your post.

Groovee · 03/01/2017 19:59

Glad your boss was so understanding x

ChanandlerBongsNeighbour · 03/01/2017 20:00

Well done OP! You are showing your true inner strength already!

BlueFolly · 03/01/2017 20:21

I am sure that of you told your friends about this they would be completely understanding and it would help to have some RL support.

PuntCuffin · 03/01/2017 20:35

You sound so amazingly strong considering what she has put you through! Delighted your boss was so understanding.

TwoLeftSocks · 03/01/2017 20:38

So glad your boss was supportive, the vast, vast majority of people are.

Ceaser1981 · 03/01/2017 20:55

Hi, just reading this thread and i can absolutely understand how hard this is for you. I too have a mum who has NPD although has never seen a doc for it. She quite honestly, in my eyes, is a fruitloop and does all sorts of crazy shit like this too. One thing i do know is you might just have to cut your ties completely with her, for your own sake.

I learned pretty early on in life my mum didnt love me, only used people for her own gain and was 100% selfish. My dad is very supportive and we have discussed it quite lot. I went through a period of 3years not speaking to her and it was actually great, peace and quiet. Then for the family i started to talk to her again but for the last 12 years kept her at arms length. I dont pretend to people anymore that i have a good relationship with her. She too has committed fraud on a pretty large scale, stealing from my dad. She also runs up thousands in debt and expects my dad to pay it off, this has happened every few years throughout my life, the last time my dad paid off 15k for overdrafts, loans, cards etc. She doesnt even bat an eyelid when he mentions it to her, she thinks she deserves the money he worked so hard for. My dad doesnt skrimp by any means on holidays, house etc for her but she does not appreciate it at all. He has never involved the police but i wish he had now as there are no severe consequences for her actions.

The only time i hear from her is when she wants to maniplute me, for money, to be her driver for the day. I cant think of anytime in my life she has encouraged me or said she loved me, im over it now.

We deserve to have a good life, we deserve to be treated well by people, we do not have to put up with this and we shouldnt. I wish you all the very best and know that we are here for you if you need to let off steam.

Sorry that ended up a bitmof a rant about my mother didnt it, just know you are not alone and none of it is your fault 💐

kwick · 04/01/2017 20:42

ceaser sharing is caring Flowers you are an amazeballs woman too Smile

purple you are doing so well.

Everyone: great advice! I know where to come to if I need help!

kwick · 08/01/2017 07:20

Please can we have an update on this!

hollyisalovelyname · 08/01/2017 10:30

Caesar well done for getting through the awful times with your Mum.
Being on Mumsnet makes me realise just how blessed I was growing up - I had a great Mum.
Why does your df put up with your mother?
Can he not divorce her?

HappyJanuary · 08/01/2017 10:43

A locksmith won't provide a key without evidence that you live there. Is she on the tenancy agreement, or a guarantor?

Are you certain she's there? You might have left a light on. She might have left a light on before leaving days ago.

Is there a family member who could intervene on your behalf?

I'm sorry but for an educated professional to just take their belongings and sofa surf rather than confront their aged mother sounds absurd. It's your flat. Go with friends. If she's there and brazen enough to lock you out or refuse to leave call the police. If she's on the tenancy agreement it's tougher but talk to the landlord or letting agent for options.

Her behaviour is utterly bizarre. Have you ever been in serious trouble with money or needed her to bail you out? Why on earth are you giving her access to your accounts, paying any money back or letting her get away with stealing £2000 from you?

calzone · 08/01/2017 10:48

HappyJanuary.......with the greatest of respect......have you read the thread?

FGS!! RTFT!!!! 😡😡😡

HappyJanuary · 08/01/2017 10:49

Haha that'll teach me not to rtt Blush

cerealgamechanger · 26/04/2021 13:51

I know this is a zombie thread but I've just come across it. I hope you managed to get your life back on track OP.

cerealgamechanger · 26/04/2021 13:52

@purplewild60

PigletJohn · 26/04/2021 15:30

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TurquoiseLemur · 26/04/2021 18:09

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Christ on a bike. Some of the advice on here! Call the police and have her sectioned? What law would they be using there then? There's the power of the internet at your fingertips, at least have a cursory google before spouting bollocks. Burglary? How has that been extracted from the circs in the OP?
Unfortunately, it is very very difficult to have someone like this sectioned. Yes, she has a personality disorder, no doubt about it. (My father was very similar.) Psychiatrists only usually section someone whom they consider to be psychotic (schizophrenic or similar.)

I would bet my bottom dollar that the OP's mother can be charm personified when she wants something/wants to manipulate someone into doing something. And she would probably be like this with a mental health professional too. (This is the main difference, in a way. A person in psychosis is not manipulative, they would appear unwell to ANYONE who met them.) This is one very big reason why narcissists are hugely undiagnosed: mental health professionals either don't meet them (because a narcissist is unlikely to present voluntarily) or they meet them and are conned by them

MrsRockAndRoll · 09/05/2021 19:48

OP how are you?

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