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Support thread for those of us having to 'co-parent' with a narc or very difficult exh thread 3

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Lilacpink40 · 09/11/2016 18:57

Thred 3! Grin

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Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2016 11:29

Frog that's brilliant news!

He has not been calling/texting too much, he will text of a morning to see how DS is, DS will be face timing him tonight, I want to get DS prepared for seeing him, even if that is a while off.

I'm coming to terms with the face that he will get access. How much is still questionable at the minute, suppose I'll have a better idea once I speak to solicitor.

I've advised ex that even if by some miracle things stay amicable I will still be seeking a court order, to protect myself and DS. Them everyone knows where they stand and DS can have a routine, know where he is and when.

Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2016 11:41

And staple I know how you feel I feel like I've just blabbed on about myself!

Flowers to all, and hopes for a peaceful weekend

staplehead · 11/11/2016 11:46

OhB - I have been reading your posts and I just wanted to extend a hand hold.

I felt that way about ex the other day - I just felt so defeated. That he will always be in control, he will never be out of mine and DS's life. I know how you feel, and its an awful feeling. Please read up on controlling and manipulative people, there are some great books out there. It helps hugely te read about these behaviours, how they effect the 'victim', and how you can overcome them. I will try and link a couple of them in a minute.

In answer to dusters questions - I don't know how he speaks in front of DS, probably bad language and derogartory towards me. What gets to me is when he uses crude language when texting me about DS. Don't want to say too much as it would be identifying (and ex has form for stalking me on here).

WRT slapping - before DS was born and while we were stuill together, ex used to say he would have no qualms about slapping his bum if he was naughty. I, of course, completely disagreed and felt disgusted. So it is defo within the realms of possibility that ex is slapping DS. But I would have no way of proving it.

staplehead · 11/11/2016 11:48

OhB - you are going through it at the minute and need to vent on here and have that hand held tightly Flowers

PurpleThursday · 11/11/2016 11:59

Hi frog, great news.

As for me. Oddly still. I think I'm in shock.

Froginapan · 11/11/2016 12:06

You may well be, Purple.

Be kind to yourself. Look after yourself.

Eat
Sleep
Laugh with your DCs

Allow yourself to feel whatever you feel.
Read articles about NPD types of it helps.
Try to see friends.

Rant at us.

Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2016 13:14

Thanks staple

It's hard isn't it, when you're in the middle of it and you're starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel. I think my problem is that I'm looking too far into the future: I'm panicking about how I'll feel about unsupervised, in reality that's quite a while away and I'll probably feel better about the situation by then.

I have a meeting with the local dv support people next week, I think they run the freedom programme so hopefully I can get on that. Also have received a referral to the MH team, they're calling next week for the initial telephone appointment. And then solicitors the week after, then hopefully we can start things moving from there.

staplehead · 11/11/2016 13:37

OhB - WRT to the Freedom Programme, you can do it online link if you don't want to wait.

If you haven't already, read Lundy Bancroft's Why DO They Do That?

How to deal with Controlling People

and another

There are loads of self help books out there that can help you to understand controlling, narcissistic people and how to deal with them.

The above three books I have read, and found useful. I have just started this

Obsessed, much? Grin

I just think knowledge is power. And understanding the thought processes behind a narc / controller does help put things into perspective. Understand when and how you are being manipulated. Forewarned is forearmed.

Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2016 13:46

Found this that could interest some if anyone hasn't already read it

www.psychologytoday.com/blog/anxiety-zen/201502/forget-co-parenting-narcissist-do-instead

staplehead · 11/11/2016 13:51

That link is helpful, OhB. I especially like the wording here:

4. Vow to be calm, pleasant, and non-emotional. This is a Herculean task if ever there was one

Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2016 15:13

Definitely agree!

nicenewdusters · 11/11/2016 16:43

That sounds really positive Frog, loving the sound of the barrister. In a job I did many years ago we would occasionally have to brief our appointed barrister. It was scary but so interesting, the really good ones had minds as sharp as razors, sounds like you've landed one.

Still grinning about Mr HJM Blush !

Staple - that crude language in the texts sounds awful. If he's just doing it to get a rise out of you then I guess ignoring it (so difficult) is the only option. As for the slapping, I don't know what to suggest for that. If he leaves a mark I believe you could report him, but not sure of the facts in this area.

Never worry about ranting or going into detail etc on here. That's the idea, just say whatever you need to.

Good to hear you sounding calmer Ohb. I think a court order would be a good protective measure for you and your ds.

Purple you're bound to be feeling a bit shell shocked. Think of what you've just gone through. Like being on a high speed train that's come to an abrupt stop. I know you have several jobs, but try and take it easy when you can, and cuddle your lovely ds. You also need 100% Purple gorgeousness for when you meet up with your man from the course Wink

Lilacpink40 · 11/11/2016 19:33

Thanks for link Ohb I liked I’m a fan of age-appropriate, straight-shooting communication, especially when the narcissism runs extreme

Purple I thought of you when reading that after communication was brought up in court. I still think you can be honest with your DCs.

Dusters getting excited for you, when are you meeting Mr H-J (sorry if I missed you saying this).

I'm just stuck, waiting for bank to sort mortgage to get ex off it. Have sent solicitor's consent order, but feels like it's gone on forever. WN using it as an excuse to send horrible messages and to say he won't have DCs overnight.

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Lilacpink40 · 11/11/2016 19:37

Homely I saw your post about nominal order, but sorry I don't know how they work. Can your solicitor help?

May be worth starting a whole thread on nominal orders to catch more MNs that have one in place?

Hope it's something you want and not forced on you.

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staplehead · 11/11/2016 19:56

What does WN mean?

Froginapan · 11/11/2016 20:09

Wanknarc

staplehead · 11/11/2016 20:12
Grin
Lilacpink40 · 11/11/2016 20:14

Staple Shithead SH has also been suggested.

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Froginapan · 11/11/2016 20:15

Dusters - razor sharp is what I will need if we go to a final hearing which will happen if Ex-P doesn't back down on the particular point that is the barrister's area of expertise: I have nothing to lose.

Lilacpink40 · 11/11/2016 20:15

WN 'spray away' spray was a great suggesion on an earlier thread Grin

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Natsku · 11/11/2016 20:16

Sorry I'm not keeping up, bit too much going on in my head at the mo (not ex related for a change) but keep on keeping on everyone.

Lilacpink40 · 11/11/2016 20:18

Frog it's great you have good support for court. You seem really together about it all. Smile

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greencarbluecar · 11/11/2016 20:53

frog that's great news Smile

Everyone else sorry I'm not keeping up very well, been a long week. Big deep breaths and good luck for the weekend...handover solidarity here for all who need it Flowers

2012PP · 11/11/2016 21:56

SO so much to catch up on.
I am rubbish at remembering what's going on one page back ,msomwhenits 4, I'm so lost.
I think someone had a good date! Or contact from someone? Which sounded very cool! I hope the guy calls and everything's goes well.

As for shit court hearings - w-t-f??? I'm totally naive. I didn't realise it could end like that X I'm so sad and pissed off - DUSTERS... Is this yours.. .
Hi to other newbies (;I'm quite new here too ) and find this thread a huge source of support, it's been invaluable 💐💐

2012PP · 11/11/2016 21:57

I may well have had a bit too much wine this eve 🍾
Sorry!

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