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I love my wife, but her ex-boyfriend also loves my wife too

197 replies

mark5690 · 03/03/2016 11:29

My wife separated from her ex-boyfriend about 15 years ago, but he still loves her. He has had two significant girlfriends since then, but he seems unable to marry and move on with his life. He makes it clear to my wife that she is the one for him.
My wife tells me she does not love him but has deep "caring" feelings for him. She meets him every 6 months or so to make sure he’s ok and happy. Recently she made a dinner for him at his home.
I've let my wife know I feel uncomfortable with the situation, but I don’t try to prevent them contacting each other because i believe it won’t work. At least now my wife tells me what’s happening and it’s all above board. Often I feel insecure that they will eventually end up together.
Anybody know what I should do? He’s got a new girlfriend now who wants kids with him. Imagine how she's going to feel when she finds out he prefers my wife!
I have 3 young kids with my wife.
Ta M

OP posts:
Offred · 03/03/2016 17:50

I wouldn't be happy with this either.

I don't buy the crap that men and women can't be friends but I do think if you are in a committed relationship with one person you do not have a friendship with someone else if there are feelings on either side.

By that I mean it is not possible to be friends.

Either she feels bad and thinks she is helping him, she likes the attention and has no care for your feelings or allowing him to move on or she is having an affair with him.

You can't dictate who she is friends with but you can say what treatment you will or won't put up with. If it is the first one I think you can give your two penneth but accept that her life is hers if it is either of the other two I think you should LTB.

Offred · 03/03/2016 17:54

And yes I agree with PP that he is not some poor underdog if he's had relationships.

He likely is enjoying having your wife on a string as much as she may be.

Katenka · 03/03/2016 18:04

I wouldn't mind dh meeting an ex on occasion.

Cooking at the exs house? No way!

Continuing to meet an ex who disrespecting my marriage? No way!

Your wife is also disrespecting your marriage. This man is making it clear he is waiting for her to dump you and realise he is the love of her life and she is encouraging his fantasy.

I would never be meeting up with someone who was telling me I was the one for him.

I suspect your wife enjoys the fact that this man is still in love with her and that's why she isn't putting a stop to it.

She is putting her need for a self esteem boost over your feelings. As op said you can't stop her meeting him. You can however not out up with her treatment of you.

donajimena · 03/03/2016 18:11

What everyone else has said. Get a handle on this OP.

Canyouforgiveher · 03/03/2016 18:16

*She doesn't want him but she likes the thought he wants her. So she sees him just often enough to keep him keen.

Not very nice really*

This. She loves the attention adn the thought that she is the object of someone's devotion. He needs to move on - the idea of one true love you never get over is for teenagers - or the brontes.

I would not be happy if my husband was doing this with an ex - and I am friendly with plenty of exes. none of them hold a flame for me though and I don't cook for any of them in their houses and I don't "make sure they are ok and happy" - I do that for my dh.

Chocolatteaddict1 · 03/03/2016 18:16

She recently made him dinner at his place.... Well I bet that shown his new gf who is boss ...

you need to get a back bone op

Chocolatteaddict1 · 03/03/2016 18:18

And also I'm friends with all my exs and I don't cook them meals or go for coffees with them - they have not even had kids! Hmm

houseeveryweekend · 03/03/2016 18:24

Well you are right not to forbid her from contact as it wont work and will make her resentful. No one should tell anyone else who they can contact. I wouldn't dream of forbidding my OH from contacting his ex who he was with for 13 years.... I understand, I feel the same way about my exes im not the sort of person who just stops caring about people because I cant have sex with them any more for whatever reason. My OH is like that as well and its actually a quality I admire in people. I think you should see it as a quality about your wife. She has obviously chosen to be with you, if she had wanted to be with this man she would have been. Don't let your insecurity ruin your relationship with your wife. She is obviously just a very caring person who is upset by the thought of her ex suffering in any way. It doesn't mean she doesn't love you in fact id look at the positives and say that it means that she must feel very strongly about you too and would never be the type of person to hurt someone.
What she is doing however even though the ex may have asked her to, is not actually helping him as it may prevent him from moving on. Not the friendship but perhaps the cooking dinner round at his place etc... whilst I don't think its wrong it may not be helpful to him really if he is having problems moving on.
But I just don't think you should worry about this or let it affect your marriage. It will eventually die out by itself when the ex eventually moves on which he will in the end. Don't blame your wife for her nature. That's just how some people are they find it impossible to stop caring about people they have started caring about. Me and and my OH are the same and have both had trouble in the past with partners not understanding our need to remain friends with our exes. Luckily we are similar in nature so allow each other space and time to be friends with whoever we want. As long as you know what is going on and why there is no problem with this.

Chocolatteaddict1 · 03/03/2016 18:25

Oh I wouldn't forbid her/him I'd just tell them to not come back

AnyFucker · 03/03/2016 18:25

You sound like a mug, mate

OhShutUpThomas · 03/03/2016 18:30

Have you been told in words of one syllable that he is in love with her?

Or are you just assuming this because they went out years ago and you don't like her seeing him twice a year.

Genuine question.

Halftruth · 03/03/2016 18:35

Another strange set up ... Why only every six months ... Do they talk everyday ... Sounds extremely suspicious ... I'd be thinking they were holding out for the kids to grow up , so she can go off and start a fresh with him leaving you to have to start again ....have you spoken to him about it ... Maybe you should face your fear and go with her ... Feel the vibe for yourself

MissBattleaxe · 03/03/2016 18:35

She does not need to make sure he's "Ok and happy". That is his job. If she keeps him in her life he will always think there is hope. She is having her ego stroked and he is having his hopes raised.

You are handling this correctly by avoiding ultimatums and not wanting to look controlling, but she is being very disrespectful and hurtful towards you. There is no merit in this friendship of theirs. Cooking for him in his own is very intimate.

They may both be saying "nothing happened" but it could be an emotional affair. At best it's intimacy that excludes their partners.

Millliii · 03/03/2016 18:42

You say that you feel better now you know about their meetings. Does that mean she was meeting him and not telling you? If so how do you know how often they are actually meeting? If it were reversed would she be ok?

Justaboy · 03/03/2016 18:48

mark5690

She meets him every 6 months or so to make sure he’s OK and happy. Recently she made a dinner for him at his home.

Are you bloody serious mate?.

Stop being the Nice guy and tell her either she stays here with you in no uncertain terms, or clear off and find another woman and don't let this happen again!.

MissBattleaxe · 04/03/2016 11:18

YY to Justaboy. You can't order her not to see him but you can say you don't find her actions compatible with your relationship. In fact she's being bloody inconsiderate. She's upsetting you and keeping the poor sod dangling.

JebelRebel · 04/03/2016 11:56

Hmm.

I think your wife is enjoying this (sorry). If someone pined for me like that I'd stay away from them to let them move on.

ClarenceTheLion · 04/03/2016 12:42

Hmm. I'm wondering if the Op is enjoying it... Yet another post where the Op is a wonderful man and doesn't understand why his wife does such emasculating things... I'm sure some are genuine but I'm less likely to believe all the ones who never come back after the first post.

MissBattleaxe · 04/03/2016 15:49

Hmm. I'm wondering if the Op is enjoying it

That's reading an awful lot between the lines.

ClarenceTheLion · 04/03/2016 21:29

No, it's experience. It happens a lot on this site! Several times this year on threads I've participated in. Usually the same thing, super nice male OP with some variation on a ball busting wife/girlfriend, and after the OP they don't come back, and then sometimes you log on to find it's been deleted because the MN staffers think he's dodgy.

OhShutUpThomas · 04/03/2016 22:15

Agree Clarence.

mark5690 · 05/03/2016 11:01

Guys sorry about the delay.
I will give you a full update on how I got on later today.

OP posts:
mark5690 · 05/03/2016 19:17

Firstly thank you very much for all your posts and advice which I have used. Here's how it went...

I spoke to my wife about her ex boyfriend not moving on with his life, and that she might in fact be delaying it. My wife then said he has moved on with his life!! ..This was a bit of a bombshell for me as this was the first time she has told me this, and It's obviously key to the whole situation!

There was plenty going on in my head at that point. Did I imagine or exaggerate the seriousness of their relationship?.. in which case I feel really stupid now! Really really stupid!!!..

I asked my wife; if she wanted to get back with her ex boyfriend would he go for it? She said he would not. I'm obviously not involved in their discussions, but gut feel tells me this is not entirely the case. Its all about the little signs..For example he got a dog after they broke up and the dog now has my wife's name. I don't know how old the dog is but it was during our marriage. A (very rough guess , they broke up 15 years ago, I met my wife 14 years ago, and he got the dog 5 years ago) He could of course have moved on since getting the dog, but it's the signs things like this.

I asked if it would be appropriate for the three of us to meet up? She said no, it would not be appropriate because it would be awkward, and due to the history. I agree with her on this point, but I would feel the least awkward of the three of us.

A previous poster suggested something along the lines of , the ex boyfriend may have moved on long ago, but by telling my wife that she's the one for him, provided an excuse for seeing both woman. My wife was shocked when I suggested this- In fact I was surprised at how shocked she was! Personally I don't think this is what is happening because as I said above I believe the ex boyfriend really does still like her (ie not moved on long ago)

There were some posts about my wife "enjoying the control". I didn't ask if she was doing this, but I did ask her if she thought somebody else in her position could enjoy the control and she agreed. Or conversation was quite calm at the time and I felt that asking her if this was what she was doing then it would stir things up. In any case I felt she would say no. Maybe I could follow this up at a later date.

She told me she is never going to stop visiting the ex boyfriend. I've never asked her not to, because I know it won't work. I think these things go "undercover" if you try to ban it, or you will be the person who denied them of their friend and they will not forgive you. I don't know, maybe there is actually a way of doing it properly. She does however know I'm "uncomfortable" with it.

Anyway that night we had sex and its was better than normal. I'd describe it as a "primal need for reassurance". I think we both felt that way, but of course it could have just been how I felt I don't know! :)

So getting up to date. Right now I feel so much better having had the conversation with my wife, and having asked these questions, without actually making things worse :) You see at the start of this process I was worried I'd create damage, arguments, or appear weak& insecure. Us boys want to appear in control!, because of this I was originally going to post on a boys forum but glad I posted here as boys views on my wife's feelings may be inaccurate. The upshot is I feel much more in control and informed now having had your input so thank you very very much. :)

PS: I know it sounds like I've signed off, but if you have any comments on all of this I will get back with a further update :)

Ta M

OP posts:
pocketsaviour · 05/03/2016 19:21

She told me she is never going to stop visiting the ex boyfriend.

So basically she's told you she's going to continue banging her ex and has no intention of stopping. Good to know, I guess.

If you don't think she's still sleeping with him, you are very naive.

StillYummy · 05/03/2016 19:36

Sorry but I think your wife is being a real bitch to this guy. How is he going to move on if she keeps popping back into his life? If she isn't in love with him she needs to stop keeping him on the hook and let him move on.

She isn't being nice to you either!