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Am I mad to have him back?

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decomm18 · 27/02/2016 22:43

Posted on someone else's thread last week, but now starting my own. Long story, but been married to DH for 28 years, both of us awkward buggers, driven, irritable, high-achievers. I've worked the whole of our marriage, and earned more than him the entire time, which he's hated although never admitted to hating. He's very bright, 1st from Oxford but not in 'useful' subject, I'm academically much weaker but in useful subject so now have gone much further than him. Three kids, all done fine at school, now left and at / headed for uni; two older (sons) are model wonderful boys, but (youngest) daughter just like her dad and very hard to handle / they argued continuously ever since she was about ten, and it caused huge rift between us re management of her.

He's had two affairs over past eight years, both of which I've been semi-aware of but never brought up with him. I wasn't happy about it, but didn't want to upset children by facing up to truth. We've got on OK, with just about the only arguments being about how to manage DD, and a gradually-increasing distance between us. No sex for the past four years, which I've missed. Last July he left us all to move in with OW - who he'd been having affair with for three years, and who (advisedly) is his 'soulmate'. Har har. This coincided with massive building project to allow my mother, 94 and with dementia, to move in with us. We'd been going to rent flat for kids to move into, but with DH moved out, we didn't bother and muddled through. But from the first he kept saying he'd come home at the end of the build, and he valued his relationship with his children, and although OW was his soulmate (har har) he still loved me and valued our relationship enough to try to rekindle it. I'm still stupidly in love with him (in most ways he's still the lovely boy I fell in love with at 23), so went along with this. His was my first boyfriend, I'm now 53 and a fattish greyish uglyish introverted person with zero charisma and very boring with it. I'm not wanting a lonely old age, and have little hope of ever meeting anyone else should DH not return.

The build finished early December, and he didn't come back. It was then going to be after Christmas, then it was going to be the end of january, then the end of February. It's still the end of February, i/e Monday. I'm still saying I want him home, but he's clearly getting cold feet, and is now suggesting this is a 'trial return' (presumably the evil twin of a trial separation).

I'm wanting him home - so do the children, although my DD has this difficult relationship with him, and (apparently) knew about his affairs but didn't feel able to tell me - but am beginning to think I've lost my marbles to even consider it. No matter how many people tell me to tell him to poke off, I can't do it. His lying and faithlessness seem not to bother me nearly so much as picturing a future without him. I behaved very badly indeed in the first ten years we spent together, and he stuck with me. I owe him, big-time, for that. This feels like my chance to stop feeling guilty about what I did and didn't do that first decade of our relationship; and I think I can be happy again with him, if he can only be happy again with me. It does happen sometimes, doesn't it? Views?

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 01/03/2016 22:54

No more doormat remember ? Remove that "Welcome" mat from your forehead porch and freeze him ahhhhhhht.

AgathaF · 02/03/2016 07:51

As Emma said, he has created this situation, let him sort out a solution to seeing the DC. There is no way that you should have to inconvenience yourself, or your mother, or anyone else, to accommodate him, in any way more than you already are doing.

ThatsNotMyRabbit · 02/03/2016 08:22

Just read this whole thread and can I just say that you sound anything but dull.

You sound clever and witty and kind and wise.

He doesn't deserve you and you know what else? He fucking well knows it.

Mumof2twoboys · 03/03/2016 13:39

Hello
Yes you can infact stop him coming home. Get an injunction against him for emotional abuse against you and your daughter
I think the best thing is to sell the house. Cut off contact with him and start over
If he wants to see the kids surely he can arrange it with them via text/email without contacting you

Men like this, who abuse their hold over women are the scum of the Earth

Even princess Diana realised she could do better than be treated like a 3rd wheel

Please cut off contact and start living your own life. There are lots of single traveler holiday companies and book clubs you could join

The best revenge is to show him that he is nothing to you and you have moved on

I ended up financially worse off after a separation. Suddenly I had to move to a 3 bed semi from a 4 bed detached and had to pay all the bills myself whilst the csa twiddled their thumbs but you know what... Any man who doesn't care about you is not worth caring about!

Move on with your life, people like him are toxic and now you have the chance to start over and show him that he is a fool and opening laugh at his foolishness. If he asks again to come back laugh in his face!

Footle · 03/03/2016 14:24

Steady on, Mumof2 ! OP has come a very long way in a short time - it takes a while to get to where you are now.

decomm18 · 04/03/2016 08:35

Another update, much more positive. DS2 had a good, quite unemotional meeting with DH on Tuesday, and is no longer worried about his mental state - I resisted temptation to interrogate, but was relieved myself to hear this. Since then, DH has stopped texting me, but is very keen to meet to talk about 'the future'. I've cautiously agreed to meeting mid-week, next week, after I've had an initial talk with a lawyer. I'm almost more suspicious now about his silence, but he's been in touch with the other two DC, and has told them he's trying to 'patch things up' so hell knows what he's going to say to me.

I'm completely NOT going to have DH back - ever. Have been on the www.chumplady.com site, following a link upthread, and wish I'd found it years ago - it's a complete revelation, and after reading through her stuff, I feel somehow that I've found my way out of a fog I've been walking through for years, and am blinking in the clear lovely sunlight - talk about a personal epiphany. My superfast progress through to this different - and better - place is due in no small part to all of you lovely posters on here, and I'm so glad I sought your advice, which has been shocking, supportive, funny and reassuring by turns. There's lots of difficulty and uncertainty ahead of me, but I've got so much going for me that I can only be confident that I'll get through it and - a year from now, let's say - be happier than I've been for many years. My eternal gratitude and best wishes to y'all.

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Breadandwine · 04/03/2016 08:39

So good to hear, decomm!

You've made my day!

Wine (Tonight) for you!

BunnyTyler · 04/03/2016 08:53

That's good to hear Decomm Smile

What you've done this week is to take back a bit of control, making a decision putting your emotional happiness ahead of his.

It's a wave that you have to ride out until the end, it will be tough at times and you may have moments of self doubt, but you have to let it play out to the end.
Keep holding on to the things you can control, and let go of the things you can't (ie him).

Every day, week and month is another chunk of time moving away from your past self and moving toward your best self.

Thanks
Costacoffeeplease · 04/03/2016 09:00

Brilliant update - great to hear you sounding so strong - onwards and upwards!

Arfarfanarf · 04/03/2016 09:05

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NameChange30 · 04/03/2016 09:18

What a fab post! Great to read you sounding so strong. Thanks for updating us Smile

Toomuchinfo1 · 04/03/2016 09:25

I've been following your thread and im so pleased to read your last post!!

Good on you!!! :)

SongBird16 · 04/03/2016 10:59

Brilliant update op, you sound amazing!

Mumof2twoboys · 04/03/2016 11:59

Best update ever. Well done and stay strong. Get a good solicitor X

decomm18 · 04/03/2016 13:11

Thanks so much all for your good wishes. I do feel strong, stronger than for years. I've been unpicking the reasons myself - it's so bizarre for me, because my emotions are normally very stable and predictable, and I feel as if some switch has flipped inside my head for me to be thinking so differently about DH. But what I now realise is that - in a bizarre turning of tables - I've fallen out of love with him finally, after all of these years. That's sad, but in this case, for me, it's empowering and freeing, and therefore entirely positive.

I love DH still - he's a nice, funny charismatic man, we've had great times together, and produced our three lovely DCs - but I'm no longer in love with him. That means that I'm free of the shackles of that previous love, and no longer blind to his obvious faults (because true love really is blind, isn't it?). It means that I want him to be happy, and it means that I feel no real anger towards him (now that I'm over the fury about the way he behaved on Sunday night). Instead, I feel sorry for him, and now want us both to quickly reach a rational and adult position over how we co-parent and manage our joint financial commitments. Seeing the lawyer next Tuesday will inform me of the issues that I need to raise with him, and I almost feel like writing out an agenda for our meeting on Wednesday.

Whatever, it's now all on my terms, not on his. He can make his new life with his OW, and he really is the loser in this game. I can move on from my previous stupid blind and co-dependent position, and in my next relationship - whenever it is, and if some attractive shepherd pops in for tea perhaps - I'll know what 'healthy' looks like.

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FantasticButtocks · 04/03/2016 14:40

WOW! That is great to read! You're going to be fine x

wannabestressfree · 04/03/2016 15:39

Am so pleased for you :)

AgathaF · 05/03/2016 07:46

I'm so pleased to read your updates. I think you should write an agenda for nest Wednesday's meeting. You might find it difficult when you are face to face with him, he will have things planned out in his mind, but you can use a written agenda to keep things on track and discuss what you want to and need to discuss. I wonder if it might be useful to take a friend with you? For support, and to prevent him being difficult.

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