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Brave Babes - Wrapping up for a Wonderful Winter

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venusandmars · 24/11/2015 16:31

Hi, I am venusandmars and I've been on these threads for many years.

It can be tough at this time of year when the adverts are full of families cheerfully opening bottles of wine and good cheer, when work parties are alcohol fuelled, when distant friends call round with a bottle in hand.

Maybe you're trying to cut down a little in the pre-Christmas weeks, maybe you are struggling to know how to continue with a longer period of abstinence, maybe you are waking up after a Christmas Party feeling sick and covered in shame (or even feeling shame and covered in sick).

Whatever, whenever, if you want to stop, or cut down, or simply share your struggle with others who also feel the tug..... please join us.

Usually our lovely mouseface opens these threads, but the poor mouse is sick in hospital and so I am overcoming the technophobia that a 50-something feels.... (well done me Chocolate ). Our last thread is here if you want to read the last few posts

And if you want to read the story from the beginning (you'll need a few weeks) HERE is where it all started when Jesuswhatnext posted in May 2010.

Welcome one and all x

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dementedma · 06/12/2015 16:01

Oh hope of course. We have just done ours, with all the usual junk and tat. Every decoration holds a different memory from the tin Father Christmas which was on my parents tree when I was a child, to the furry pudding with curly moustached which DDS boyfriend bought last year. Stylish it ain't, bit its a memory tree.

Agree justice for mouse! Let's all drive down there and find this bastard!

lookingforhope · 06/12/2015 21:06

Thanks Ma. I love my memory tree. But fear it is going to be scrapped because dd is succumbing to peer pressure and wants something she can show off on her Instagram feed. She is already after an i-phone for Christmas. It's not that I can't afford it at the moment, but it's a two year contract and will have to get ds the same thing (not for him, he couldn't care less, but I like to be fair and can't get him a worse phone than his little sister). So given that I have no work confirmed for after August 2016 am just reluctant to be locked into paying over £70 a month for three mobiles (including mine, which will now be the cheapest even though it's also my business phone Xmas Shock ). It bugs me because when she says all her friends have this or that, (last one was Caterpillar school shoes for £80) they really do, and god knows how half of them afford it cos a lot of the mums don't work full time, they must be in debt up to their eyeballs. I'm not mean and I do love to treat the kids - it's why I work so hard cos god knows they'd get sod all if it were up to WB to earn it - but it's the expectation and materialism that I don't like. I know that 6 months into the contract she'll want a different phone when her stupid friends upgrade too. Pah. She's making me feel very unchristmassy. Xmas Sad I so wish they were little again and I could shop for toys and dressing up outfits and go to see them in their nativities (sob). And keep my pom pom reindeer and yakult snowman (more sobs). Waaaah!!!!!

snowvelvet · 07/12/2015 08:45

Hi all. *hops on the bus.

I have been on mn for a couple of years, but read rather than post. I made a couple of posts on another thread in relationships and thought I would post here too.

I'm an alcoholic in recovery via a shed load of AA meetings and lots of rethinking.

Thought I'd hop on for the ride.

Mouseface · 07/12/2015 11:50

Hi snow, I'm Mouse :)

Find a seat, I'll be back for a chat in a bit but there is tea trolley over in the corner, all freshly baked treats, ginger and cinnamon cake, mince pies, chocolate yule logs etc, and some yummy homemade hot chocolate too, along with the usual tea, coffee and juices.

Help yourself. :)

obrigada · 07/12/2015 14:31

Mouse, how are you after the other day?

dementedma · 07/12/2015 19:08

Hey snow welcome to the bus.
mouse how are you?
indie you still with us?

snowvelvet · 07/12/2015 23:19

Wow the refreshment table here is something else. Love it. Thanks for the welcome Mouse and demented.

Mouseface · 08/12/2015 01:12

Hello Babes

I know that the last few days has been pretty hard for me but I wanted to let you all know more details as to what actually happened to me last Wednesday. I hope you all don't mind, but I need to get this out of my head as often as I can.

I'm suffering from PTSD and am having the most horrific nightmares. Plus, my pain levels have doubled due to the impact of the vehicle.

WARNING - the following EPIC POST may upset some of you so please don't read it if you think it may. I'm sorry Sad xxx

On the afternoon of Wed 2nd Dec, I was deliberately knocked down outside our own house by an odd job man who was clearing furniture from the now disused old post office two doors up from our house.

He drives a Land Rover Freelander and it was pulling a 'homemade' 30ft trailer, full of heavy household furniture. He has previously called me a "f*#king cripple" to my face, and always looks at me in a very unnerving way if he's at the property.

When I came back from my volunteering role and doing a quick food shop, he was parked were I would normally park, outside my own house. I had to park fairly close to him, to try to avoid blocking our own driveway (which I am unable to park on, due to my car being bigger now) so that MrMouse had access should he need it.

Anyway, I unpacked the car and then went to get Nemo from school, collected him in his wheelchair and came home to see that this man was finishing up for the day, so I parked Nemo's wheelchair by the front door, and went to say to the man that if he gave me a moment, I'd move my car up to give him more space to get out. I hadn't blocked him in as I easily got my shopping out of the boot, being able to stand behind my car with plenty of space, or so I thought..............

He told me to "Mind my own f*#king business and get inside". Hmm I asked him again to please wait and let me get my keys to afford him more maneuverability and to protect my own vehicle, he ignored me so I stood at the rear of my car, and hoped he'd let me guide him out/to move the front part of his vehicle (a young lad was working with him and was guiding him at the rear of the trailer) but he reversed, then put the car into 1st gear and flawed the accelerator pedal, meaning that he drove the front of the Freelander in a straight line into me.

He then reversed again, by which time I was clutching my ribs and side, only this time, he had his steering wheel turned all the way facing out into the road, which meant I was crushed when he hit me again, rolling me between my car and his, hitting my head on my car, and then falling to the ground.

He then stopped long enough for the young lad (who was as white as a sheet) to run up and get into his car. It was at this point that I screamed at them that "I was calling the police".

I don't really remember getting up and rushing as fast as I could manage to the front door, hammering on it telling MrMouse to get the phone, with poor little Nemo still in his wheelchair waiting to go into the house. Then lots of mums, all on their way home from school (with young children Sad ) were saying that they'd seen everything and that they'd tell the police as much.

DH took Nemo in and asked what was going on, I told the police control room what had happened and they sent an ambulance. The officers attending took down as much info as they could whilst the paramedics checked me over, but everything was starting to hurt as my adrenaline ebbed away and then my neck hurt like hell, just at the base of my skull, so it was a case of 'oh dear, query C - Spine injury' so I was strapped to a board with head blocks on, and taped down so I couldn't move.

I was in agony but they couldn't give me anything until I'd been checked over in A&E. The thing is, because of my Osteoporosis, herniated discs and arthritic facet joint syndrome in my lower back, being strapped and blocked (my head was in blocks and a neck brace) to a spinal board for hours, meant that I lay there in agony as my back went into spasm.

I eventually went for a CT Scan, but was desperate for the toilet, and they used the dye when scanning me, which makes you want a wee, feels warm and leaves a metallic taste in your mouth, yuck!

They could see that my bladder was full, but I couldn't physically 'go' so I was flat on my back for hours, bursting for the loo and strapped down for at least 5+ hours, so I had to be catheterised because I had no sensation in my right side, or bladder etc.......

A detailed CT Scan using radioactive dye, an MRI Scan, blood tests a visit from the PMT (Pain Management Team) and physio coming to make sure that I'm okay with new crutches for the foreseeable future, and I'm waiting for a special boot to wear from Orthotics to correct my dropped foot.

My car was trashed at the back and rear drivers side, but the fact that I am here and still alive is all that matters. :)

The police said that if he'd hit me 2 more inches to my left, things would have been a hell of a lot worse. So, every day I wake, I thank my lucky stars that I'm still alive and that Nemo didn't see it at all, and that DD looked after me whilst I sat in shock and talked me down. I really am lucky to have such a wonderful family.

I've been to the GP tonight and he has given me something to help me sleep, although they won't stop my nightmares, some more morphine to make sure I've enough until next week, and also a referral to an excellent counsellor.

In short, this man could be accused or charged with -

  1. Failure to report an accident
  2. Leaving the scene of an accident
  3. Actual bodily harm
  4. Intent to wound
  5. Reckless endangerment And if we really wanted to push it, we could try to have him arrested for attempted murder.

But so far, he's yet to give his account of events.....

Well my lovely Babes, we're having CCTV put in, to go with the house alarm and panic buttons that we already have because I'm just so scared that this won't be the end of it.....

So, that's what happened. Sad

dementedma · 08/12/2015 09:27

oh mouse that fucking scumbag is beyond words. why hasn't he given his account yet, why hasn't he been arrested? The boy who was with him must be a key witness.
Get him charged with all of the above, including attempted murder.
What are the police DOING about it?????
So glad you weren't even more badly hurt - you are one indestructible wee rodent.
I'm rounding up the Babes and swinging Gerald round to come to your place. We will hunt the fucker down and protect you.
babes - to arms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

venusandmars · 08/12/2015 09:54

Dear mouse how awful, and I hope that by recounting things here (and I assume to friends and family), and working with the counsellor, you manage to move from the traumatic place.

I just cannot imagine what a person could be thinking to do something awful like that - and that young lad must be facing an amount of trauma himself Shock

I hope that in addition to getting whatever justice is due to the driver personally, that his insurance pay out big time so that you can have all the physical (and emotional) treatment that you require - maybe this is a way to get a complete holistic approach to your pain....

In the meantime - thank goodness for those 2 inches, and for your wonderful family who love you so much xx

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venusandmars · 08/12/2015 10:06

And hello to snowvelvet and big waves to other babes

I'm going out tonight with my lovely non-drinking pal. We're heading for our annual Christmas giggle amidst the office party chaos. How we smirk at the odd combinations of a man trussed up uncomfortably in his Christmas jumper, or perhaps with his 'humorous' Christmas tie loosened and his top button undone (his maximum contribution to the Christmas party feeling), while leaning into him is a voluptuous woman wearing red velvet and tinsel showing off far too much of her assets, giggling seductively Hmm and ordering another round of cocktails.

And in all honesty how I cringe at the multiple memories (and thankfully the many, many forgotten occasions) when that half-cut woman would have been me Blush

Tonight I'll be enjoying the overpriced Christmas snacks (at least I'll be able to taste them) and persuading the barman to create a fab seasonal cocktail with tangerine juice, cinnamon, lime, cranberry and soda - sparking, spicy, refreshing and lovely.

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dementedma · 08/12/2015 19:24

Have a lovely evening Venus. I'm ashamed to say that despite the underlying seriousness, I had to giggle at "thank goodness for those 2 inches". It DOES make a difference...Grin

venusandmars · 08/12/2015 20:29

ooh ma Blush although simply 2 inches would be a bit disappointing - it's the extra 2 inches that make the difference Grin

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SmallFox · 08/12/2015 20:43

Mouse, I slunk back onto MN tonight, drunken fox tail between legs after more than two months of bingeing. My intention was to do a big mea culpa and mark my intention to come back in Jan and try to replicate what I did this year sobriety-wise. But then I read your post - OMG, that bastard, I am so, so sorry. As if you didn't have enough on your plate. Love to you and to your wonderful family. I am thinking of you.

Waves to all. I really look forward to catching up with you all again in Jan. I have missed you, very much, but have been too ashamed to look at the thread, let alone post. I know it is classic avoidance behaviour to say I am coming back in Jan, and I know that I fully intend to drink senselessly between now and then - but for a whole variety of reasons I don't have the strength to stop right now. I'll check in over Christmas to say hi to you all and gird my metaphorical loins for Jan. I'm looking forward to it!

venusandmars · 08/12/2015 21:05

Good to see you fox - and you know that we will welcome you with open arms whenever you post. It doesn't matter whether you wait till January and are trying again, or whether you're posting in the meantime in acceptance of how things are for you. I guess there will some evenings and mornings when you think - god! roll on January and some sober time Smile well it will all come round in its own good time. And we'll be here. Take care in the meantime x

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dementedma · 08/12/2015 21:08

fox good to see you. Never be ashamed to post, drunk or sober. That's why we are here.

SmallFox · 08/12/2015 21:19

Thanks, guys. Been reading back and feeling quite emotional. You are all so special.

Spanna - hug to you babe. Thanks for not giving up on me.

I'll be back. As they say.

dementedma · 08/12/2015 21:26

There are two things not allowed on this bus: no judging, no giving up on fellow travellers.

SmallFox · 08/12/2015 21:31

Agreed, Ma, and thank you for the reminder. But it is sometimes hard to believe that others aren't giving up on you, when you're feeling like you've given up (at least a bit) on yourself. But you are right, that is why this bus is special.

OK, am snuggled back in the sidecar for the night.

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marfisa · 09/12/2015 11:38

Mouse, your story is too horrible for words. Flowers That guy is a psychopath, plain and simple. I hope he is stopped by the police so he can't harm anyone else. Thank heaven there were witnesses and everything.

Fairenuff thanks for the kind words. The doing one thing idea is very good. Term is over now and it's such a relief. Starting tomorrow I have a couple of very full days doing interviews at work but then I'll have a bit of respite. I can still get that overwhelmed feeling out of term time though: faced with a messy house, a book proposal to write, Christmas gifts to buy and send to family overseas, I often feel like giving up and going to bed. Blush

Did an AA 'chair' this week though (that's what they call the main 'share' at a meeting) and when people share back about how their own drinking experiences are similar to mine, I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside. (I know that sounds a little crazy, but it's quite a moving experience!) It's also good to keep reminding myself of how far I've come. One rather comical moment in my drinking history comes from about 10 years ago, when my GP became convinced I had a problem and referred me to a substance abuse specialist. I didn't think I needed alcohol counselling, I thought I needed counselling for depression, but the GP thought otherwise. Anyway, I can spin quite a convincing narrative about myself when I want to, and I quickly convinced the alcohol counsellor that I didn't have a drinking problem. We decided together that I had a time management problem, so I had six sessions during which she advised me on time management. Grin This now boggles my mind, I was so much in denial. I was a raging alcoholic, of course I had a bloody time management problem!

Baby, hang in there with the holiday parties. I really feel for you and I promise it DOES get easier. Last year was my first sober Christmas and I spent a lot of the holiday period just feeling 'flat', like I couldn't enjoy myself. Christmas morning without champagne was just - bleh. But this year I feel entirely different. Now that the alcohol cravings have gone I have as good a chance of enjoying myself as anyone else! Plus I wake up every morning with no headache. Bliss. People told me a year ago that it would get easier and I didn't believe them. But it has got easier. Another thing I would say is that you really don't have to go to parties, etc unless you are sure you want to. Be kind to yourself, protect yourself, pamper yourself. Your sobriety is more important than anything else. Tell people you're ill, stay home all comfy on the sofa with hot chocolate and a movie or whatever else you fancy.

How frustrating about your DD, looking - I'm not looking forward to the teenage years!

Spanna, still thinking of you and your DD.

Snowvelvet, welcome!

And welcome back Smallfox. What ma said about the bus is spot on. I stopped drinking lots of times (!) and gradually the periods in between my stopping and starting got longer and longer. You can do it.

Wishing a good day to all. x

marfisa · 09/12/2015 11:41

P.S. Are you out there, Sweet? How's it going? Exhausted academics need to stick together. x

babyjane1 · 09/12/2015 18:25

Hi babes,

mouse it's not often I'm lost for words but I cannot comprehend the pain and anguish you have been through, I'm once again humbled by your strength and bravery and frankly sobriety, you continue to amaze and inspire me xxxx

small please please don't leave us, even if only you Jan. I wish I could articulate how much kindness you have shown me in the past along with all the other babes at a time I could show myself none. I have relapsed so many times it makes me sad, I have hurt myself and my loved ones BUT their forgiveness and faith in me AND my friends on here such as yourself have given me the belief that this time may be the time I learn to live, love and believe that a sober, calm life may be mine. I have posted drunk, hungover, through a breakdown and during my raw bipolar moods and have felt nothing but love and that's how we roll so don't isolate yourself from the people that want to love you xxx

marfisa your fabulous post left me feeling very touched you took the time to follow up my raw and vulnerable post, you have helped me keep the faith in myself and that the difficult decisions ahead which may appear selfish ate necessary to keep me sober, strong and selfless to the people who need me to be.

I'm feeling a whole lotta love on this here bus and I'm very fortunate and proud to be part of our amazing cyber family cxx

SmallFox · 09/12/2015 18:36

Mouse how are you today? Been thinking about you all day. Am so angry on your behalf. So, so sad that this stuff happens to the best of people. I do sort of believe in karma (in the broadest sense) but it stretches that belief to the limit when I read your experience last week.

Sweet - hello, my friend. I've missed you. Are you ok? How are pup and your lovely family? I really hope we can catch up soon.

Baby - thank you for the lovely nc, made me feel happy and slightly worthwhile at a time when my self esteem is taking a bit of a (self/vodka induced) bashing. I love, love, love your posts.

Marfisa - thank you, wise one.

Venus, Ma - you ok today?

Been MIA for way too long so am totally out of the loop - but can anyone update me on the whereabouts of Wry and Khalisi? I haven't read back properly so may have missed something, but they're leaping out at me by their absence from recent pages. I hope they and all other friends, old and new, are ok. I can't tell you how much better I felt today knowing I'd at least taken some tentative steps to reconnect with you guys. Which sounds slightly ironic given that I have spent most of the day at a long (if pleasant) boozy lunch at work - but it was a good antidote knowing that I had a safe space to articulate how I feel, and how I want to be again in the future. Thank you all.

dementedma · 09/12/2015 20:36

wry reappeared very briefly and we all got very excited but then she disappeared again. khalisi is MIA.
indie has only recently resurfaced.
beaches is MIA I think, unless I have missed a post.
Also missing ladame and rural and thurso and so many others.
Margie are you still with us?