any other alternative mums out there?

[madamez]

Having lived a very non-mainstream life, I'm finding it hard to live in Straightworld. Anyone else out there feeling totally bemused once the playgroup chat moves away from weaning & nappies? Or is this just the general alienation everyone feels once DCs start forging their own way forward?

I don't assume anything re private schools and tottoos but a tottooed poster..two in fact..boith mentioned that they had children at private schools as though it did matter

well I think you are purposefully making yourselves the losers if you are prejudiced against people before you know anything about them

sigh I've already posted that my best friend has no tattoos or piercings. it's really not an issue between us unless he gets me to take off my coat in front of a guy with a smaller tattoo that he's trying to chat up.

'well I think you are purposefully making yourselves the losers if you are prejudiced against people before you know anything about them'

from earlier in the thread - (not your post!)

'peopeola are looking at your percings thignikgin

CHrist you look minging
THAT why they stare'

that's prejudice. right there - not stating that I don't want to bother with people who think I'm 'minging'. what am i meant to do? try to get
to know people with that attitude better so i can change their opinion and be some kind of self appointed ambassador for the modified?

one of the things about tattoos is that most of them are horrendous..I saw one of a baby's face on a woman's chest and it was like a police artist reconstruction from a dead body

they may have magical memories but then so does art and literature

So with "alternative" we're only talking superficially, in terms of appearance?

How disappointing.

I was hoping to read about mothers who lived in teepees and fed their babies soya milk...

Message withdrawn

baby tattoo

Are you the black sheep of the family? Open question to all.

We all seem agreed that alternative is a broad expression - more and more so, and more out in our culture. Its still picked on (as we see on this thread) guess it is often more stark and not so pc! just as an aside this is my google home pic - Edvard Munch birthday today.

wow you could get your whole front done as you had the kids!

pmsl at police artist reconstruction from a dead body

well I think any kind of alternative mum should have a sense of humour

I do admire the woman who makes a living from her tattoos does speeches, after dinner speaking and performances etc

This thread has made me wonder what alternative way there are of being 'alternative', beyond the rather predictable package of tattooes, body-piercing and anti-Boden clothing. Any suggestions?

Got half way up this thread and thought 'so what's alternative about you all?' and then other mumsnetters beat me to it. Still not sure what deams you an 'alterantive mum'.

Issymum I was wondering that too.

Sometimes me & the girls have pudding first, then savory things just to make life a bit more "alternative".

This thread has not surprised me with it's narrow minded bitchiness. Perhaps a discussion of alternative parents and parenting could've ensued if any of you could get off your friggin' high horses long enough to let us talk.

Someone mentions alternative fashion and body art and suddenly that's all we're about, but actually if you'd given us a chance to chat without all the hostility people might have felt comfortable enough to discuss other things. As it turns out, I very much doubt any self-identified alternative parent will dare raise their heads over the parapet after this shitstorm.

Same old mumsnet.

I told you, I am the most alternative mum on this thread as I have 4 tits. They said I could be their leader

My take on alternative is wholly centered on music - ie US alternative rock/ UK Indie music scene of early 1990's because that was when #i was young (sigh) and going to gigs, festivals etc. I would identify others with similar tastes to mine through the tees they wore and the gigs they went to - simple as that. teens today are still very tribal it is a natural part of growing up. I no longer consider myself part of 'a tribe' per se - but i still enjoy discussing music etc. with those like minded souls i find - and i remember being bullied and having stones thrown at me as a teen for the way i dressed. That kind of reinforces any feelings of alienation already strong as a teenager and makes you hold closer to others sim to yourself.

i haven't tatooed or pierced anything so i don't know how that effects relations with other mums i know that a 'illustrated mum' wouldn't bother me in the slightest - and i would chat happily to her.

Appearences do matter because people - conciously or not - make judgements about a person when meeting them for the first time. And although appearence matters less and less as you get to know people - it is the opportunity to get past that first meeting that can be difficult - ime - i am happy to be corrected on this.

I think in the context of this thread the op is sayoing alternative mums means people like me

I was talking about that to dh last night issymum (in light of this thread) I think one way is that of a colleague of mine. She wears Tesco jeans, long sleeved black faded t-shirts and sensible shoes. quite literally. I have never seen her wear anything else. she wears them until they fall apart then she gets some more. She utterly rejects any attempt to "dress" herself (as it were), or rather, more accurately, she doesn't reject it, she fails to embrace it. Alongside her politics, her job, her voluntary work and serious unflinching uncompromising commitment to things green, I think she ranks as pretty alternative. If you saw her at the bus stop (which you wouldn;t cos she cycles everywhere) you wouldn;t give her a second glance

nobody is stopping anybody talking

that is impossible to do on mn