any other alternative mums out there?

[madamez]

Having lived a very non-mainstream life, I'm finding it hard to live in Straightworld. Anyone else out there feeling totally bemused once the playgroup chat moves away from weaning & nappies? Or is this just the general alienation everyone feels once DCs start forging their own way forward?

don't single mums feel vulnerable then?

just lurking and trying to work out what you mean by "alternative" when you aren't referring to a bookshop!

it seems an old fashioned concept to me..hippiesish talk!

I'm joining! two full sleeves, most of my (ahem!) chest and a good portion of my back are tattooed. I've retired my facial piercings after swallowing my tongue stud (yes, all of it, not just the wee ball) but i do have 16mm ear stretchings.

for those of you with very small children, i don't know why, but it does seem to get better when they go to school - I'd always been a little snubbed at first at the school gate but the friends my children have made are the alt-kids and their parents are all great - even the (sorry) non-'alternative'ones. no-one has not let their kids play with my kids because of how i look.

I can't say that i gelled with any mums at pre-school stage - sometimes i think you have the biggest things in your life in common - being a mum/woman - and then nothing else.

that said, i try to cover up nowdays ( especially in this weather!) I don't want to embarrass my kids...I shouldn't have to feel like that, but i sometimes do.

PinkTinsel - any designs you like on here?

some gorgeous tats thers hovely, will have a proper browse through later.

if i can't find any myself though i'm just going down to cork for a week and having my old tattooist there design one for me based on the book of faeries, he's really good and i trust him to do exactly what i want.

persephone, it's relieving to know it does get easier at school age, am so looking forward to not having to force myself to listen to endless buggy conversations just so dd has some kids to play with, lol!

"I think married mums get threatened by attract. single mums because they feel more vulnerable after having kids and more reliant on partner so it is more about them than you."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Merry Christmas, ladies - don't let the judging grind you down - and remember, let he who is without sin cast the first "bet she is too square to give blowjobs" comment.

Honestly, ladies - look at yourselves before you judge - just because someone doesn't feel the need to "sheep" to prove their alternative status by having bits of themselves pierced doesn't mean they aren't free-thinking weirdies underneath.

Alternatively (pun intended), how 'bout you get a tattoo that says "individual" - you could all have them!

will stop lurking and ´fess up to being into alternative music and dress in the 1990´s. used to have afew piercings but only my ears again now.

The "straightworld" is not so bad As for playgroups have discovered that some of the straight ones are actually slightly deviant themselves and good people to know, it just takes awhile to see that. Personality for me is important, not just lifestyle

alternative to what?

what a bizarre thread.

Alternative as in what the posters perceive to be the mainstream surely. And how mainstream (in their view) mums perceive them.

Not particularly bizarre.

Well, I find it bizarre. I've no idea what constitutes "mainstream" or "alternative", or which model I conform to myself. It's bizarre, to me!

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I can't see what's "alternative" about having half a ton of Sheffield steel bolted through your extremities. There are millions of you - what's it an alternative to?

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And all your DH wants for christmas is a bj...?

Why does anybody slightly alternative feel the need to conform to the stereotype of "alternative" by piercing their bits and tattooing themselves? Discuss.

I'm only saying that's how the mums on this thread perceive themselves & others. I do understand Hunker's point though.

Here we go again ....

Hunker - you arent suggesting this is inverted smuggery, are you?

alternative to me is the 1990´s...

cod lots of piercings are hiding under clothes which I am sure of course you know.

Greensleeves you are alternative aren´t you? alternative eating not excluded??

Well, I don't know. What does it mean?

i think it means too cool for school

Maybe in the 1980's zippi.....

to cool for school is more the fashion alternative, then you have your extreme alternative beliefs - which are really quite alot more mainstream these days, like eco lifestyles or beliefs, vegetarianism.