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feel like im loosing my mind with this...

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lostgirl83 · 14/10/2015 00:43

Hi all .... where do i start?!
I am so head fucked by my boyfriends behaviour i cant think clearly anymore,
The relationship is so one sided and i make so much effort while he makes none and doesnt even really pretend he does its almost like i should feel priveledged that hes even bothered to talk to me so what am i moaning about.
We dont spend much time together tbh and theres not really a good reason why just that hes so busy ( doing nothing ) apparently.
I wish i could record our phone conversations just to play someone in the hope they will tell me im not going mad as they just get more and more bizarre, he goes from singing how much he loves me and stupid love songs to me down the phone which he says is romantic but just feels sarcastic to a couple of minutes later telling me he doesnt think i give a damn about him i should prove it and hes not sure he sees a future for us....this switch can happen bk n forth a good few times in every conversation then he laughs hysterically saying hes only joking i shouldnt take things so seriously etc etc.
God this all sounds so petty theres so much more weird things that i wish someone would explain to me why he does this as i feel like im loosing my mind atm
Im going through a really rough period of my life atm and i do really love this guy ( weve been together 2 years ) so its not as easy as just dump him although i know that may sound like the best plan.
My friends think he is emotionally abusive and that his behaviour is getting worse not better
Id love some impartial views or advice if anyone would like to chat
TIA

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lostgirl83 · 14/10/2015 20:39

Ive just spoke to him as he said he would be here about 7:30 what with this being our only night together this week....he hasnt left his yet as says he cant find his bankcard and hasnt got any fuel to get to me if he doesnt find it
Having a massive deja vu moment that hes used this excuse before
Got his fillet steak here teady to be cooked as thats what he said he wanted
Oh and ill prob be pissed by the time he gets here if he does as the wine is going down far too well tonight

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lostgirl83 · 14/10/2015 20:40

@fuckyouchrisandthathorse....you made me cry coz your msg was so nice .... nicer to me that he ever is and you have never met me

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FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 14/10/2015 20:44

Lostgirl, the person who loves you the most is supposed to be the one who is nicest to you

Can you put the wine down? He's done you a favour. You've got some breathing space :) and he's such an idiot that he can't even see that he's done just what you need!

Right. No more wine. Have you eaten? Do you like steak (it's my favourite so feel free to bung it my way! :o )? Time to eat something. Run yourself a bath, or watch something you like on TV.

This evening is no longer about him. It's about you Cake

lostgirl83 · 14/10/2015 20:47

Id love to do that but hes now on his way apparently....he will only be about 3 hrs late! I dont even want dinner now ive gone past hungry ill just cook it for him
Me time tomorrow night :)
Just gotta struggle thru tonight 1st

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FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 14/10/2015 20:47

If lovely strangers on MN, hadn't held my hand and helped me see the truth, many years ago, then I would still be with xh, miserable and confused and scared. Instead I'm cuddled up with my lovely dh.

It was only when I got together with him that I could truly see how terrible xh was. Hindsight is an amazing thing.

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 14/10/2015 20:48

Oh no! Xpost. Just keep your distance. You can say you're suddenly feeling rubbish as an excuse. If he's wanting anything more then you have a terrible bout of thrush and that's why you feel bad.

Just be careful. I hope you have a peaceful night.

SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 14/10/2015 20:52

While you are trying to distance yourself, get a copy of Lundy Bancroft to fill the time...and/or adult colouring. Make the time pass.

lostgirl83 · 14/10/2015 20:53

Thank you so much....i will post again in the morning if thats ok, dont want people getting bored of my moaning

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lostgirl83 · 14/10/2015 20:54

@smalllegs....thank you i will....i downloaded the free taster bit of the lundy bancroft book on google play while i was at work today rings very true from the little bit i read!

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FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 14/10/2015 20:54

Lostgirl, please do :) I look forward to hearing about how you spat on his steak :o

You're opening your eyes to the truth. Watch his actions. Let yourself see it all.

I hope you're safe tonight.

SkandiStyle · 14/10/2015 20:58

Oh my goodness darling, this madness needs to stop right now.

This situation really isn't your fault, per se. I'm afraid this man deliberately targeted you a couple of years ago, and actively selected you as someone who would (most likely) put up with all his arrogant crap.

Imagine him as a hungry lion watching a herd of antelope. Then his eyes lit up when he spotted one of the antelope was limping...well, you were that limping antelope I'm afraid.

He actually wanted someone who was a bit vulnerable, too open to suggestion and quite easily manipulated. Why? Well I could answer that, but it would be lengthy and actually it doesn't matter. Because even if I could make you understand why he targeted someone like you, you will still never, ever be able to change him.

People do not change. Let me just repeat that. People. Do. Not. Change. So you can forget about changing him, or him changing himself. It will never happen.

I do understand that he has got you so confused that you can no longer trust yourself to know black from white. And, of course, that is exactly how he likes you. Uncertain, unsure, hesitant and apologetic. Do you find yourself apologising to him much of the time? I'm guessing that you do?

In that case please trust the experienced judgement of me (and all the other experienced posters on this thread) when we tell you to disengage from this man. Disengage and run as fast as you can. He is bad news and bad for you in every single way.

You say that if you ignore him then he will 'punish you' by ignoring you for days and days.

Can you not see that he is already ignoring you and has been for 2 years now. You say he doesn't listen to you. He doesn't care if you're feeling down. He ignores your sexual needs. He doesn't see you for a week, then only calls round after having been to the gym.

He. Is. Already. Ignoring. You. He always has..and he always will.

So what if he doesn't come round? What is it you will miss exactly? His spiteful sarcasm? His constant belittling of you? His crap and selfish sexual performance? His blatant disdain for any concerns or worries you have?

And you would miss all of that? Really?

You need to wipe him off your shoe like the piece of nasty dog shit that he is and sashay on down the road.

Despite having known this arse for 2 years you haven't had a relationship with him. Leastways, not a healthy, happy and loving relationship. What you have had is something twisted and wretched and ultimately damning and destructive.

Walk away now, right now. No excuses. No ifs or buts.

If you don't walk away now this man won't stop until you've bought a house with him. He will then most likely insist you have a baby. He won't marry you, of course. He'll use marriage as another carrot on a stick to beat you with. Always making you jump through higher and harder hoops to prove you are worthy of him marrying you.

You will never jump high enough though. He doesn't want you to. He just wants you endlessly and pathetically jumping, jumping, jumping.

This man won't stop until you have enabled him to buy a house and you have a child/children. And if you don't walk away now, you will be back posting on here in a few years time saying that he has started screaming at your children, and last night he threw one of them across the room...

Because this won't end with you. He will want to demean and abuse any children you have too. Because he is damaged and flawed and very dangerous to be around.

You cannot make this right. No one could. You need to protect yourself from him and walk away. Please, please just walk away.

LovelyFriend · 14/10/2015 21:30

Ah so he's coming around tonight so you can have the joy of cooking him dinner. Of course he had to be getting something out of it. Holy cow!

SkandiStyle · 14/10/2015 21:36

Just wanted to say, sorry if my above post sounded a bit gung-ho. It's just that I know exactly who you feel, because many years ago I was in exactly your shoes.

Quite a bit younger than you, only in my late teens, but convinced I was head over heels in love with an older man who was much like your partner.

He teased me about my weight - I was 5ft 7" and 8.5 stone FFS.
Told me he would dump me if I went to university.
Made me cry at my Great Grandmother's funeral because I ' was ignoring him'.
Only agreed to see me on specific evenings which suited him and often cancelled last minute.
Sulked through my 18th birthday party 'because I was having too much fun'.
He was crap in bed, and I now believe the reason he wanted a much younger girlfriend was in the hope I would be too naïve to realise how inadequate he was.

Oh, the list could just go on and on and on...but does it sound familiar OP?

Thank God, I finally saw the light after 3 years of his nonsense. Kicked him to the kerb and took up my place at university. But I could so easily have stayed with him and ended up living a half lived life.

Don't end up living a half lived life with your partner, please.

Atenco · 14/10/2015 23:57

OP, I can hear you are getting stronger, just want you to know that being on one's own is so much more fun than being with an abusive man. I left my abusive ex (and he was a prince among men compared to the man you are describing) and I felt like I was walking on clouds, over the moon with the pleasure of not having him in my life anymore.

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 15/10/2015 07:03

Morning, Lostgirl :)

Atenco, is right. The feeling of lightness you get when you're free is amazing. I remember dancing around my kitchen like a complete idiot!

I hope you're ok. Maybe have a read back of what you've posted. I found writing it down so helpful. I finally had a record of what was actually happening. I didn't have to rely on my confused brain to put the memories together, it was all there in black and white.

Oneeyedbloke · 15/10/2015 09:14

Best thing you did, Lostgirl, was posting on here. The amazing collective intelligence of MN knows he's an arse, YOU know he's an arse. Do your poor head a favour and walk away from this man. Oh, there may be fuss and bother, rage & threat, but you mustn't mind. I'd just slow the whole thing down, see him less & less until you can just put it to one side. You wanted to change him; I don't think that was wrong. But some people are open to change, are unfucked-up enough to see the sense or justice of what is being said to them. This 'man' is very clearly not one of them, he is a fucked-up user of other people; don't become a victim of his messed-up personality. You deserve better; we all do. I don't believe that people never change; some do. But you will fuck yourself up trying to change this guy, there are thousands of these borderline psychos around, and you need a nice man - or no man at all. Here's a picture of a good relationship:
'Marriage is one long conversation, chequered by disputes. The disputes are valueless ... in between ... the whole material of life is turned over and over, ideas are struck out and shared, the two persons more and more adapt their notions one to suit the other, and in process of time, without sound of trumpet, they conduct each other into new worlds of thought.' (Robert Louis Stevenson, a nice man)

Oneeyedbloke · 15/10/2015 09:18

Flowers Flowers Brew

PreemptiveSalvageEngineer · 15/10/2015 09:33

Hope you're OK this morning.

Actually I hope he choked on that fillet steak, but that is neither here nor there... Smile

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 15/10/2015 10:00

Whilst I completely agree with most of oneeyed's post, I think it's a misnomer to see it as wanting your partner to change.

When you first get together with someone nasty, they're usually lovely. They make you laugh, they make you feel happy and special, and you think, "this is what I want".

Bit by bit they phase the nice bits out and push your boundaries. Week by week the get worse.

It's the boiling frog analogy. If you put a frog into hot water it'll hop out, but turn the heat up slowly and it won't notice the change and will boil.

That's what they do.

So it's not that you want him to change, you want him to be the person he presented himself as. You want him to be who you agreed to be with. You want the relationship you were promised.

And you start to think "if only I could be better, they would still be that person."

But it's all a lie, because the person you love, never existed. They were pretending to be someone else to hook you.

Now you have to go through the process of accepting that the man you love doesn't exist. It's a grieving process. The less you see him the easier it will be.

summerwinterton · 15/10/2015 10:05

I really hope you have ditched him. I can only think your childhood was spent with a man who treated your mother in an appalling way.

Please get rid of this hideous man once and for all. And find some counselling for yourself so you never mistake a 'relationship' such as this for love.

Francoitalialan · 15/10/2015 11:50

Keep talking OP.

You want to get married and have kids and a nice life with a man who loves you and respects you and wants the same thing? Get rid of this parasite and all your dreams get a whole lot closer.

lostgirl83 · 15/10/2015 12:52

Hi all and thank you for the lovely messages :)
Last night went as expected i cooked then asked if we could watch a tv programme i had been looking forward to and was told no so tried to tell him i think its unfair that even in my home we have to eat what he wants and watch what he wants and was told if i didnt stop going on at him he would go home
Anyways he didnt go as i shut up but this morning there was a huge family drama/emergency on his side resulting in him getting a phonecall from the police just after he had left mine this morning
As i had feared this incident has now been made my fault its so messed up!!! I dont want to say too much incase i out myself if any of his friends wives etc are on here but if anyone wants to chat by pm that would be lovely
Thank you all so much for your replies i will keep posting think tonight will be a hard night :(

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petalsandstars · 15/10/2015 13:04

The best only thing for you to do is to dump his arse. Seriously. You'll feel so much better in yourself

WorkingClassHeroine · 15/10/2015 13:10

Instead of carrying on with his way of doing things and saying 'oh, I know how it's going to be tonight' and so on, how about taking charge? Say you don't want him over?

Don't set yourself up for another evening of feeling tense and unhappy, especially if you start off knowing how it's going to be - it's your home and you can decide who comes into it.

Tell him not to come over. Do it by text - say 'I've been thinking that this relationship isn't working for me and I've been very unhappy for some time, I want to break up'. If he gives you any grief just repeat that you are unhappy and that you would appreciate it if he could just move on so you can do the same.

You don't have to formulate much more of an exit plan than that - you don't live together, he has no key (I assume) so you don't have to see him if you think it would be easier. Just don't respond to any texts and don't answer the door to him, turn cold on him and if he says 'but whyyyyyy?' you can repeat that you are not willing to be unhappy any longer. Ice Maiden style.

Dare to be a badass - you might surprise yourself.

lostgirl83 · 15/10/2015 13:17

He isnt over tonight anyway and this mornings drama has made it so much more difficult to end it right now....i cant believe im being blamed for whats happened :(

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