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is anyone awake? I don't know what to do I'm in utter shock and cant stop crying...

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Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 01:39

I feel so sick, I was going to name change but what's the point? he has screwed me over no matter who I am...and i feel so stupid as i have been on here talking about us starting our new life away together..
Our marriage has become quite strained over the last few weeks-both to blame really and work etc getting in the way. We talked and agreed we would make this work and we both missed what we had before..
He then went to a friend's wedding (I couldn't get out of work so couldn't go) but when he got back I had a real niggly feeling that he was hiding something from me, for the first time in 10 years I checked his phone when he was in the shower and there were a couple of messages between him and a girl he met at this wedding-a bit flirty and a bit upsetting and we had s blazing row about him stepping over the line giving and taking a number...he swore nothing happened and it was banter etc. I wasnt happy but I wanted to try and make this work.
He then a few days later went away on a previously booked trip for 5 days (an annual event) I was very tearful as I didn't feel we were quite sorted and he insisted we would be ok.
Contact while he was away was a bit intermittent but he called to speak to the kids and was ok with me, said he loved me and missed me etc..
today his phone was unavailable and he text to say it had been playing up loads but seemed ok now it was reset.. I went to bed feeling ok, he is back tomorrow and we can have a proper chat and get our selves back on track..
Anyway tonight i go to set my alarm and i have a picture message of this girl from the wedding waving at the mirror in a dressing gown with the caption...different day, different hotel room (she was working abroad for 3 weeks after the wedding i gathered from their texts) he had replied 'i like your wave but would like even better to be inside that gown'
How i got those messages i don't know... he isn't answering his phone and isn't back until tomorrow evening.
I feel sick to my stomach....how the fuck can i face work tomorrow let alone the kids who are so excited about him coming home...

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Kerfuffles · 05/10/2015 05:50

How awful for you Sad
Have you taken screen shots of what you can? I really think he will try to minmise as much as possible. The fact that he hasn't bothered to contact you is terrible.

Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 05:52

I have screen shots yes...I may email them to myself and then delete from my phone so they aren't glaring at me constantly!
Just had a horrible Thought that if they have slept together I may need to get myself tested...we have slept together a lot over the last week and only use the pill Sad

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anklebitersmum · 05/10/2015 05:55

His reaction (or lack thereof) may well set your mind 'straight' as regards what steps are next Rainbowlou1.

Don't delete anything and let him contact you-you've expressed your disgust via text and he can't not know now what he stands accused of.

Good luck Brew

Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 06:00

Thank you x

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Secondtimeround75 · 05/10/2015 06:03

I'm awake

Just wanted to hold your hand.

Try and find one good friend or a professional to help you through this.

Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 06:09

Thank you I'm starting to get really tearful now and the kids will be up soon-I need to be strong today, get through work and hold tight until later.
How ironic that we are short staffed because my colleague is on long term sickness after separating from her husband!

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CheerfulYank · 05/10/2015 06:20

So sorry Rainbow. Good luck.

Scarydinosaurs · 05/10/2015 06:20

Do you jointly own your house? I'm so sorry you're going through this.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 05/10/2015 06:26

It's rotten isn't it
Marriage can be saved after infidelity but it takes a lot of work on the part of the cheater. The victim can't do it on their own.

definiteissues · 05/10/2015 06:27

Hope today goes ok. Sorry this has happened to you

ulasesra · 05/10/2015 06:28

Aren't you reacting too fast? If he was your best friend, the person you really trusted once, then you at least need to listen him first. You may think that this has no explanation, but what if he can really explain? Maybe he needed a chance to talk to you and put something an end nicely. Or maybe he can convince you that this is nothing... You have kids. Don't let something silly ruin your relationship without knowing what it really is. Talk to him first. Even if he is not worth it, you should talk for yourself... imho...

Scarydinosaurs · 05/10/2015 06:39

Given that she's already talked about this with him and he's only gone and ramped it up by sending more messages that are more explicit just shows that he doesn't give a shit.

And he knows she knows...and he's done nothing.

GirlDownUnder · 05/10/2015 06:45

Exactly dinosaurs he not only managed to ignore her messages last night, it seems he managed to also sleep.

The poor silly wee boy made a silly mistake, and for the sake of the children (that he's managed to not think about) Rainbow needs to talk to him, cos she really should listen and be open to being convinced that sexy banter / messaging OW is all just a laugh Hmm

Lweji · 05/10/2015 06:45

Just seen this and glad you managed to get talking over the night.

The thing is, he is not that great, is he? You're already having problems and I'm not sure he really has his heart on it.
Maybe he does want out but he wants you to break up with him.
Him getting even later back home sounds like he does not care and yes that he got other plans, sorry.

I would be asking for some time to consider it all and decide on what to do, if he finally contacts you. Without him making promises. Just you reflecting on your marriage.

donajimena · 05/10/2015 07:12

You poor thing. I hope you get through work ok.

LeaveMyWingsBehindMe · 05/10/2015 07:19

Rainbow Hmmm…I don't really know how to answer that to be honest, but I'll try. I had a great life, a lovely home, financial security etc, everything I didn't have growing up and I was just too terrified of losing it. I grew up as the child of a single parent with an absent father and we struggled, I struggled emotionally with it - more than anything I didn't want that life for my children, for me it would have meant I'd failed. He was a really great husband and father up until and apart from those couple of stupid drunken fumbles, and he never dreamt in a million years I'd find out. But I did find out, almost immediately, in similar accidental circumstances to yours.

It happened at that classic time in most marriages where life gets taken over by young children and duty and the daily stresses that stop you lavishing attention on one another. It was a bit of a cliche, I was stuck at home with the kids, he was out after work, blah blah, although he didn't work with the person in question, so that made things easier to deal with in the aftermath.

I decided to take a bullet for my kids and what I hoped was the greater, long term good. That turned out to be the right decision, I've never regretted it (or needed to wonder why the hell I gave him another chance) but I'll be honest, a little bit of me died that day. the innocence was lost and it's never been quite the same since. It's made me more of a realist and a cynic, but that's no bad thing, and honestly, I've been happy, we've been very happy ever since. That was the one and only rocky patch of our marriage, and we generally never argue.

I would honestly say that I have the upper hand in the relationship and call the shots, and other than the financial support when I was a SAHM, he would have been far more lost without me than I would without him, and I think he think he has always known that.

It happened, it was awful, it was a stupid mistake on his part which he regretted immediately (easy when you are caught, I know!) and it stopped.

For a long, long time there was no trust, I felt sick and tortured myself with 'what if there is more I don't know? What if there were others?' I was constantly checking up on him (secretly) but he needed to travel for work sometimes, so you just can't live like that, you have to let go and trust again or you'd go mad. Actually, I don't know that I did ever completely trust again, but I had made the decision to stay so I just had to get on with it.

But I didn't constantly act all needy or weepy, questioning him or refusing to let him go out, I played it quite cool actually, was very matter of fact about the whole thing, which I think made him nervous! He knew he'd used his get out of jail free card and there wouldn't be another, so the choice was his….

Talking about this feels weird now, because it was such a long time ago and it seems so detached from the marriage we have, and have pretty much always had, apart from that thing and I almost feel like I'm talking about someone else.

I think if we'd had a difficult dramatic relationship with lots of arguments and resentments etc., it would not have worked, but honestly, our day to day life was very happy and harmonious and always has been. Another cliche, but we really are best friends. I think that in spite of what he did, I knew that he loved me and was he utterly terrified and bereft at the thought of losing it all, especially the thought that his children would feel let down and disappointed in him. That was enough to keep him in his place after that.

For all I know, he could have done it before, or done it since, but the thing is, if he has then I haven't known about it and he's still here because he wants to be and because I want him to be and that's all that matters.

As the children got older I told him many times that I stayed that first time out of fear, both for the children's happiness and my own financial security, but that these days, I have no such fear, and if it ever happened again I'd be gone without a second thought and he knows that. The children are grown up, they'd cope and understand, and I am no longer financially or emotionally vulnerable as I was then and not remotely afraid of being alone. Whereas he can't bear to be without me, rarely goes anywhere without me and gets lonely if I'm not there for a few days.

sandgrown · 05/10/2015 07:46

Great post Leavemywings. I think you should get all your important documents together I case you need them and put some money aside if possible but I do think you should talk to him. Whichever way you go you need some answers from him to.make your decision. You also need the opportunity to tell him in no uncertain terms how you feel though this may be better when the kids are not there. Whatever you do remember you have your pride. Do not be needy or let him walk all over you. It is a horrible situation but you need time to make a decision so If you need space ask him to move out for a few days and tell the kids he is working. Best of luck x

Lacoba66 · 05/10/2015 08:21

Just my opinion Leavemywings but I think that your last post is actually quite sad....

GloGirl · 05/10/2015 08:36

Weirdly more than anything I would be so upset that he knew how hurt and upset I was and just left me in silence. Cunt.

Right now you don't have to make any big life choices, your instincts are telling you that you need space and distance from him, I think that sounds sensible.

Can you call a friend, pack him a bag and box up anything precious like marriage certificates and wedding photos and jewellery and get your friend to keep the box for a few months till you are calm enough not to destroy it in a rage.

hellsbellsmelons · 05/10/2015 08:53

When I let my ex know via text, he called immediately and it was around 5am.
His non reaction is probably him panicking and trying to think of excuses for you when he returns.
Try to carry on with every day life. It's not easy but it will keep your mind on other things for some of the time.
Don't forget to look after yourself.
Solid food might not be an option with the churning and butterflies.
Sugary tea and ice lollies got me through. Soup and smoothies would also be good.
Keep your sugar levels up. You are currently running on adrenaline and shock. When that goes you will crash down so need to make sure you are hydrated.
It's going to be really hard but try not to think too far ahead.
Just take one hour at a time for now.

This, by the way, is nothing to do with you or if you are good enough etc...
This is all about him and his weakness and disloyalty and disrespect.
You will blame yourself but it's not YOU - it's HIM!!!

A phrase I often post on these kind of threads:-

“And once the storm is over, you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in. That’s what this storm’s all about.”
? Haruki Murakami

SuburbanRhonda · 05/10/2015 08:57

Agree with PP that you could check online for arrivals at the airport he's flying into to see if his flight is genuinely delayed. I didn't think they rescheduled this far in advance, tbh - when my DH is delayed he normally finds out once he's got to the airport.

AnnieKenney · 05/10/2015 09:17

Great post LeaveMyWings.

And ouch did this resonate: but I'll be honest, a little bit of me died that day. the innocence was lost and it's never been quite the same since. It's made me more of a realist and a cynic, but that's no bad thing

Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 09:24

Just snatched a few minutes to update so sorry if it's brief will do more i depth when I get home.
He called me..he was crying/embarrassed/ashamed doesn't know why he did it swears blind nothing has happened.
Said he loves me but then said he doesn't know what to think, or what he wants, says he has let me and the children down etc etc
He said if our marriage was perfect he wouldn't have messaged her so maybe it's the end.
I didn't cry!! In fact I think I was quite strong and I said he could at least give me the decency and dignity of not practically ending our marriage over the phone and he can come over later to talk face to face.
My heads a mess I have no idea what this means for us.
I want us to get counselling and fight, at least try so that we never say we didn't do our best... but I don't think his heart is in it anymore Sad

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Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 09:25

I mean fight for us not have a fight!x

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Rainbowlou1 · 05/10/2015 09:26

And thank you all for your kind words and help I couldn't have got through last night without you all x

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