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She wants another baby. I can't.

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NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 21:59

Not sure why I'm here tbh.

My wife and I, both mid thirties, have been married for a little over a year, together for nearly five, and have a daughter who is just over two years old.

From my previous marriage, I also have a son, who is 8. My boy was born brain damaged, and is non-communicative, can't walk very at all, and has a few other related illnesses. He's a wonderful boy, happy, fun loving, and affectionate. But clearly given his disabilities, looking after him is frequently challenging, and often heartbreaking. I have him for tea and take him home to put him to bed twice midweek, with at least one over night stay at the weekend, sometimes two. I'm very lucky to have such great access, and a good relationship with his mum.

My wife is set on another baby. Until now, my conveyed opinion has at best been "I'd be happy if we don't and happy if we do". Non-committal, and somewhat untruthful. Often I've said I don't want one, but it's soon been upgraded back to Non-committal to protect her feeling.

I don't want another baby, and told her so this evening. Because of her shifts, I'm often left with both kids on my own, and whilst I absolutely love it, it's very hard work, balancing their two very different needs emotionally, medically, and from a dependency perspective. I just couldn't cope with another one thrown into the mix. My son is only going to get bigger, heavier, more dependent on me, and I'll always be there for him. My little girl is the light of my life, and I love the time I'm able to spend with her. The precious time I have with both would obviously be diluted with another child. Allied to that, I frankly couldn't cope with the three of them on my own, which would happen quite frequently.

An additional barrier is financial. We plain old can't afford another baby. We have a nice life, decent income, but the last week of every month is always very tight. Granted, one might say we waste money early in the month, but I would say we enjoy a decent quality of life. The added financial burden would make the whole month like that last week. I feel we both work too hard and too long to go through that.

My wife very, very rarely has both my son and our daughter alone, and when she does its for no more than an hour. Despite my telling her, I don't think she truly realises how difficult my life can be with the two kids I've got. Rewarding, obviously - but very much at the limit of what I can cope with.

She's just driven off to be alone. I know that what I've just told her has broken her heart. I know that in many ways it's selfish. But it's not a subject that families can truly compromise on, is it? One party is forced to accept something that they don't want.

I've tried to want a third child, but I just can't. I'm so happy with how things are - difficulties notwithstanding - that I just can't actively want that to change.

It kills me that I'm doing this to her, and I fully expect to be the bad guy on here. I don't really know why I'm writing. Just a sounding board I guess.

Cam a woman ever recover from this? Will she leave me? Is not wanting a baby anymore selfish than wanting one?

Thanks for reading. Abuse away.

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NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 11:59

Whose idea was the bigger house? Did you need a bigger house anyway or might DW have seen this as preparation for a 3rd DC?

We started looking when our daughter was only a few months old, so a third child at that point wasn't part of the equation

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Offred · 19/08/2015 12:04

This is not a snipe but are you sure it wasn't part of the equation for her?

Usually when you are buying a new house you consider what your future plans are for around the next 10 years at least. If she new she wanted another and she was the one who was keen on the bigger house are you certain that having another baby didn't factor in for her?

NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:08

The number of bedrooms that we were looking for was always the same. We declared what we could put to the pot, budgeted accordingly, and made our decisions based on that.

I've been accused by some of effectively duping her into a bigger house with never having the slightest intention of having a third baby, this is patently untrue.

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Iamatotalandutteridiot · 19/08/2015 12:11

no12 6 weeks after having DS, I made it clear to DH that I wanted a second child. 14 months later, I had my second child. Women think ahead when it comes to kids..

With the best will in the world, whether you feel you duper her or not, she almost certainly had those bedrooms allocated for dc.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 19/08/2015 12:13

But for all of that.... What matters now is that you move forward honestly. She is allowed to be angry op whether or not you think she should shoulder some of the blame for that is irrelevant.

You have had time to come to your decision. Now give her some time.

Offred · 19/08/2015 12:14

No, I'm not accusing you of that. I do think probably to get past this you need to get everything out though. What factored into your decisions about the house may not have been the same for her.

You said she was more keen on the bigger/more expensive house I think down the thread. I was just wondering if part of her being more keen may have been that she was factoring in the appearance of another baby.

I think you've made mistakes in the way you've handled things but certainly they are understandable. The difficulty is the consequences for her are things she may never get over. It doesn't mean you are a horrible person, husband or father.

NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:16

All well and good, but then having a smaller house wouldn't affect either of our current opinions one jot. We may have slightly more money now, but then we'd also need to move house and the financial worry would still be there. She have been thinking about further kids, but we certainly hadn't discussed it.

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NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:17

*may have been thinking

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NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:19

I certainly don't apportion any blame for this on her. Whilst I do feel my reluctance was clear, I accept I have no right to have expected her to read between the lines, or to even have wanted to if she did.

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Iamatotalandutteridiot · 19/08/2015 12:19

Your options no12 your options.

She patently feels differently, as otherwise she wouldn't be considering to ttc.

You're not wrong, but you do have to own this one.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 19/08/2015 12:21

*opinions. Not options Sorry!

Wewereneverbeingboring · 19/08/2015 12:23

I don't think you duped her into a bigger house. Was just wondering if she added 2+2 and made 5.

Why did she say she wanted/agree upon the bigger house? Bigger doesn't always = better unless there's a specific reason, personally I live in a smaller house as it's easier to keep on top of.

NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:23

I got it! I meant that our differing opinions would still differ, because the reality of the situation would be the same, except we'd also have another house move thrown into the mix. Insignificant obviously, in the scheme of things. But certainly having a smaller house wouldn't affect either of our thought processes

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Wewereneverbeingboring · 19/08/2015 12:24

Sorry x-posted, slow iPad!

NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:25

By bigger, I mean in the context that we were in a two bed house that wasn't suitable for the family we had at that point.

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RedYellaGreen · 19/08/2015 12:35

I'm sorry if it's already been posted, but I haven't read the full 780+ posts. Two things occurred to me about your opening post, one is that your wife must have known what she was getting herself into because you had your son already for at least three years before you were together yourselves.

Obviously it would've been easier had you been completely honest back and about how you felt, but time does change people and there is no way you could have known how your son would be in the future in the same way that you now see a more complete picture.

The other thing that crossed my mind is that she seems to get off quite likely, with you doing all of the nose to the grind stone work, at least in relation to your kids. I suspect if you were putting your shoes, she would very soon feel the same way you do.

My final thought is, that my husband and I didn't feel able to have our second child together because My final thought is, that my husband and I didn't feel able to have our second child together because of my incurable degenerative illness. However in the end we decided that we would go for it and enlist a huge amount of help. It's not ideal as we would much rather not have the intrusion of other people in our lives, but I'm really glad we did it because we now have two beautiful children and I'm aware that they are physically demanding for a certain amount of time, but that we are now grown up in the future the problems will be more psychological!

I don't know if any of this helps you that you have my full sympathy and a little understanding, and I really wish you all the best with how it goes for you both.

Offred · 19/08/2015 12:39

No, it wouldn't affect your different opinions now but her belief/expectation on the DC issue may have influenced her choices about what house you bought (and a whole load of other things) which she may also need to grieve over - lost options IYSWIM?

NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:44

The house choice is completely immaterial to the issue tbh, offred. The only impact it's potentially got is that we wouldn't have been in a house we both absolutely love, but she might have had an extra hundred quid a month in her pocket for the last 20 months. And I'm the wider context of our issues, that's not even worth thinking about.

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Iamatotalandutteridiot · 19/08/2015 12:48

I agree, offred... We looked at a perfect house when I PG with DS... It was perfect... But it only had 5 beds (my DH has two kids already who have always had rooms in our house). We need a spare room, as none of our family live close by, so it is something that is important to us as a family... And I couldn't go through with it. I needed that 6th bedroom, for the child I was going to have after the child I was carrying (which was a bloody miracle as DH had always said no to kids!!!) that's how far along I was in the whole process....

I hadn't given birth to no. 1, which I was not expecting to have, and I was already making plans for no. 2....

I know no12, I am projecting.... But I am just saying.... I bought a house with 6 bedrooms.....

Offred · 19/08/2015 12:52

I think what I'm trying to say is that she may look back over the last year (or longer) and think about what she would have liked to do differently having known what you really felt. I think you should maybe prepare for this. She does have a right to be angry that you weren't upfront, hopefully if you work together on it she might come to understand and forgive because of your reasons for doing it. She doesn't have a right to put all her feelings about you not wanting more onto you but she does have a right to feel angry, upset and betrayed because you weren't upfront despite knowing her feelings.

NumberTwelve · 19/08/2015 12:53

Ah, well maybe she did believe that me falling in love with a house with a spare room indicated I wanted another kid. Can't say I'd considered it, I agree with it, or can change it though!

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BathtimeFunkster · 19/08/2015 12:53

The only impact it's potentially got is that we wouldn't have been in a house we both absolutely love, but she might have had an extra hundred quid a month in her pocket for the last 20 months. And I'm the wider context of our issues, that's not even worth thinking about.

That's the only impact it has potentially got, for you.

It is unimportant to you that she agreed to buy a bigger, more expensive house, presuming there would be more children to fill it.

You got the house you loved, and could only afford with her putting in extra money.

She got a house she loved when she imagined having her children in it.

Maybe that £2000 would be useful to her now, if she's thinking of ending her marriage?

Maybe the extra £25K odd she will pay over the life of the mortgage no longer seems worth it?

Fairenuff · 19/08/2015 12:54

Did you really never discuss how many children you wanted before you had your first? Most couples do. I appreciate that you changed your mind but your wife may have gone househunting with the idea that she would have more than one child.

When your dd grew out of her baby clothes/equipment, did your wife keep them for the next one, for example. I think, in her mind at least, she was always planning to have more than one if possible. And she did openly discuss this with you after your dd was born and you continued to agree that you wouldn't object to another child.

This must be a terrible shock for her. How is she today OP? I know she has said she won't leave but it will take a lot of work for her to recover from this revelation.

Offred · 19/08/2015 12:57

No, changing it is not the point - you need to understand her feelings and how not telling her for a year may have lead to her making commitments and choices that she now regrets. She may feel bad about having lost a year of fertility in her mid thirties which she can never get back and that she now feels trapped with you as a result etc.

I get we are projecting only what her possible feelings are and she will have her own feelings. I can't emphasise enough though that you don't need to fix things necessarily but listen and understand how she feels whilst being firm and clear that you are not going to change your mind under any circumstances about having more DC.

Offred · 19/08/2015 13:04

The reason it is always much better to be upfront about difficult things with your partner is because if you are not you diminish their agency in their own lives and their equality in the relationship. Not being upfront undermines trust and respect. The intentions behind the lack of honesty are often irrelevant or at least less important to the person who has been affected by it.

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