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She wants another baby. I can't.

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NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 21:59

Not sure why I'm here tbh.

My wife and I, both mid thirties, have been married for a little over a year, together for nearly five, and have a daughter who is just over two years old.

From my previous marriage, I also have a son, who is 8. My boy was born brain damaged, and is non-communicative, can't walk very at all, and has a few other related illnesses. He's a wonderful boy, happy, fun loving, and affectionate. But clearly given his disabilities, looking after him is frequently challenging, and often heartbreaking. I have him for tea and take him home to put him to bed twice midweek, with at least one over night stay at the weekend, sometimes two. I'm very lucky to have such great access, and a good relationship with his mum.

My wife is set on another baby. Until now, my conveyed opinion has at best been "I'd be happy if we don't and happy if we do". Non-committal, and somewhat untruthful. Often I've said I don't want one, but it's soon been upgraded back to Non-committal to protect her feeling.

I don't want another baby, and told her so this evening. Because of her shifts, I'm often left with both kids on my own, and whilst I absolutely love it, it's very hard work, balancing their two very different needs emotionally, medically, and from a dependency perspective. I just couldn't cope with another one thrown into the mix. My son is only going to get bigger, heavier, more dependent on me, and I'll always be there for him. My little girl is the light of my life, and I love the time I'm able to spend with her. The precious time I have with both would obviously be diluted with another child. Allied to that, I frankly couldn't cope with the three of them on my own, which would happen quite frequently.

An additional barrier is financial. We plain old can't afford another baby. We have a nice life, decent income, but the last week of every month is always very tight. Granted, one might say we waste money early in the month, but I would say we enjoy a decent quality of life. The added financial burden would make the whole month like that last week. I feel we both work too hard and too long to go through that.

My wife very, very rarely has both my son and our daughter alone, and when she does its for no more than an hour. Despite my telling her, I don't think she truly realises how difficult my life can be with the two kids I've got. Rewarding, obviously - but very much at the limit of what I can cope with.

She's just driven off to be alone. I know that what I've just told her has broken her heart. I know that in many ways it's selfish. But it's not a subject that families can truly compromise on, is it? One party is forced to accept something that they don't want.

I've tried to want a third child, but I just can't. I'm so happy with how things are - difficulties notwithstanding - that I just can't actively want that to change.

It kills me that I'm doing this to her, and I fully expect to be the bad guy on here. I don't really know why I'm writing. Just a sounding board I guess.

Cam a woman ever recover from this? Will she leave me? Is not wanting a baby anymore selfish than wanting one?

Thanks for reading. Abuse away.

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Kvetch15 · 17/08/2015 22:32

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suzannefollowmyvan · 17/08/2015 22:34

Absolutely do not have a child unless you are sure you want it.

I think it was wrong of you to string her along NumberTwelve, but that does not alter the fact that it would be wrong to have a child that you dont want.
Two wrongs dont make a right.

Iggi999 · 17/08/2015 22:35

It will also be hard for your wife to see why you having a son with a disability means she cannot have a second child, when she knows the person who is the primary carer for this child is having her third.

sebsmummy1 · 17/08/2015 22:35

Out of interest how are you going to cope if your wife decides that her need for another child is so strong that she wants to end your marriage over it? Will this improve your financial situation and ability to cope do you think?

wannaBe · 17/08/2015 22:36

I can't help thinking that if this was a woman posting that she didn't want another child but her dp did, but that she had one severely disabled child and another toddler who her dp never looked after on his own the responses here would be different.

GreenTee · 17/08/2015 22:37

NumberTwelve, I can't offer much advice as I am fortunate enough to have never been in this situation.

Can I just say? You sound like a fantastic father, husband and all round man. This is just one of those things I am afraid. I can't tell you that you should have been straight with her from the start because I do truly believe you when you say that you have tried to want another child for your wife.

The fact it, you don't want another child and you have perfectly justified reasons to feel that way. In fact, just not wanting another child is justified enough but with all of the commitments you currently have, I believe you're far more understandably justified than the latter.

You have been honest with your wife now. She knows you don't want another child, therefore the all is now in her court. Stick to your guns because giving her mixed feelings or going ahead with another child in order to keep her or make me happy is not fair to you or your two children now. She will now need to make her decision and it will probably take time. For a women, having the urge to have a child can at times be very overwhelming. Please try and understand how she is feeling. Also, try and explain to her in the way that you have on here, how you really feel.

Please don't think you deserve abuse. You don't.

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BathtimeFunkster · 17/08/2015 22:38

There is nothing even remotely 'convenient' about my situation

Really?

You've lied your way into a baby and a marriage with a woman you knew wanted more than one child.

And now you have finally found your voice when you know it will be very difficult for her to leave.'

Extremely selfish and manipulative.

I would never forgive you for using me in that way.

suzannefollowmyvan · 17/08/2015 22:38

Also I dont think you should have to justify not wanting a child, it is enough to just not want one.

However, if the things that you want are irreconcilable then I don't see that you have a deal for a partnership that feels fair

BifsWif · 17/08/2015 22:38

I agree wannaBe

sebsmummy1 · 17/08/2015 22:39

There is always someone who pipes up that if the roles were reversed everyone's responses would be different. Who knows, maybe they would or maybe they wouldn't.

The facts are that one person in the relationship has made a huge decision all on their own and expects the other person to just get over it. Relationships fail for a lot less.

NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 22:39

To answer the one about my ex having a third baby... Yes, that one is going to hurt. "if they can do it, so can we" was said. But we're different families. They're able to live a good life on one salary, and that's just never going to be an option for us.

I certainly wouldn't rule out counselling if it will help her make peace with the situation, but at the same time having finally admitted to myself and her my feelings, I'd be reluctant to go down a road that may give her false hope.

A few people have asked if I'm prepared to lose my marriage over it. I'm not. But I'm also not prepared to have another baby in order to keep it.

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BathtimeFunkster · 17/08/2015 22:42

but once a child is born depriving it off both its parents purely because one of them wants a sibling is cruel in my view.

Yes. It's not unusual for men to bank on that type of argument forcing their wives to stay with them after duplicity of this kind.

DixieNormas · 17/08/2015 22:43

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louisejxxx · 17/08/2015 22:43

I would be surprised if this is something your wife will be able to get past. By the sounds of things you have always given her the impression that another child would be on the cards....If it was me I don't think I'd be able to have that stripped away from me easily.

You have obviously been lying to her (and yourself) for a while about this and it hasn't been fair to just not say anything to save yourself from having a conversation.

Lweji · 17/08/2015 22:43

The number of children can be a difficult issue, and I would never have married someone who didn't want any children, but circumstances change and people are allowed to change their minds. It wouldn't have been a dealbreaker for me, not more than if you couldn't have children.

It may be useful to talk about the possibility that it was in reverse. Would your wife force herself to have a child you wanted but she didn't?

What would happen if she did get pregnant by accident?

PacificDogwood · 17/08/2015 22:44

None of us can solve this for you and, as ever, there's lots of projecting going on on this thread - both in your support and against you.

You need to talk and listen to each other in RL - help in the way of counselling might get you started.

I think either way one of you is not going to get what they want Sad

AndNowItsSeven · 17/08/2015 22:45

Why would the op need respite or help ? He only has his ds one or two nights a week.
Op if your son was living with you I could understand your thinking. However as you only have your ds for a limited time in the week I really don't understand your post. I think you are being very selfish both towards your wife and daughter.

wannaBe · 17/08/2015 22:45

Where on earth has the op said that he lied his way into a marriage and another child and trapped the dw before dropping his bombshell? Confused nothing like twisting an op to project some kind of view is there? Hmm

The op has already said that he wanted to want another baby, but that as time has gone on he can't change his mind on this. People are entitled to not want more children, for whatever reason. And yes, splitting up a family for the sake of a want of an as yet not conceived baby is incredibly selfish.

Lweji · 17/08/2015 22:45

The facts are that one person in the relationship has made a huge decision all on their own and expects the other person to just get over it.

Sometimes we do make huge decisions all on our own. And not having more children should be respected.

NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 22:47

^You've lied your way into a baby and a marriage with a woman you knew wanted more than one child.

And now you have finally found your voice when you know it will be very difficult for her to leave.'

Extremely selfish and manipulative.

I would never forgive you for using me in that way.^

I think you may have misunderstood. We actively tried to have our daughter, and I was - and continue to be - over the moon with her.

Subsequently, with my son growing, development plateauing (sp) and the "real life" situation of looking after the two of them coming to light, I've decided that I can't do anymore. I accept that I've probably known for a while though, and should have had the conversation earlier. But I do believe that timing is very much a secondary issue. Whether this conversation is now, or was 12 months ago, it's still the same conversation. That's not a defence of the delay, however.

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sebsmummy1 · 17/08/2015 22:47

NumberTwelve I've actually lived your wife's situation, not exactly, but very bloody similar.

My ex had two children with his ex partner, was with me for two years and over the last year strung me along knowing I wanted children but not wanting to actually say one way or the other whether he would allow me to have any. Eventually after I gave him an ultimatum he admitted he didn't want any more children at all, knew that all along but didn't want to lose me, and wanted us to stay together and for me to accept his decision. I walked.

Soon after I dumped his sorry arse I met my fiancé. We had a son and after three miscarriages I am 15 weeks pregnant. I will never forgive him for dangling the carrot the way he did and manipulating me. Thank god I had the courage to walk away and leave him to his primary family. I know he is still cut up about it but I honestly couldn't give a shit.

PacificDogwood · 17/08/2015 22:47

Has nobody here other than the OP ever lied to themselves or taking the path of least resistance with a loved one?! Really?
You're better people than me, that's for sure Blush

DoreenLethal · 17/08/2015 22:48

I would say that you really should have told her before you got married, not after.

Iggi999 · 17/08/2015 22:49

If your wife didn't work shifts would your views be different? (Ie you suspect a lot of childcare will fall to you).
You either have to accept having another child (or trying for one) or accept that she may leave you. There isn't a third option!

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