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Friend did something weird and I can't get over it

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ResentfulAndSad · 26/06/2015 18:33

I have name changed as this is so personal and outing.

I've had a friend for around two years. We began as colleagues (she was senior to me), but stayed friends when I moved on. She's about fifteen years older than me, but it never had an effect on our friendship (not sure if it's even relevant). She has a young daughter who I get on well with.

When I was pregnant she was one of the first people I told and she was a great help to us, sourcing very cheap or sometimes free baby equipment, and I also really appreciated her experiences as a mother as I don't have any other friends who are parents.

On the day I went into labour we were due to meet up, so when I was in hospital I sent her a text to cancel our plans. After that I was too busy having a baby to check my phone, and DH was the same. Neither of us told her which hospital I was at, or which ward etc.

As soon as DC was born, he was taken away to be resuscitated, the reasons for which I still don't quite understand. I was shaking with adrenaline and very confused about where my baby was and whether he was alright. I was also haemorrhaging. A midwife came into the room and said, "your birth partner is here, may she come in?". When I was pregnant I had vaguely discussed with my sister the possibility of her being at the birth to support DH and to advocate for me, but in the end it was too much of a rush for her to be there (she lives a couple of hours drive away). So I assumed they meant my sister was here, which made little sense as she'd have been at work, but I thought perhaps she'd left early due to the Christmas holidays. I think I said something like, "is it [sister's name]?" but don't remember what the reply was. I said yes, let her in, I really want to see my sister. But my friend walked through the door. Bear in mind that I've got my legs apart, there is blood literally gushing out all over the place, I'm shaking and crying, wondering whether my baby is alive or dead - the last person I want in the room is her. But she just stood there in the middle of the room in absolute silence. I'm quite an apologetic, doormat type of person by nature, and I found myself apologising to this woman that I couldn't really chat right now because I'd just given birth and I didn't know whether my baby was okay or not. I'm appalled at myself for that now, and wish I'd stood up for myself and told her to fuck off, and I'm cross at DH and the midwives for not recognising how inappropriate the situation was. It took a long time for her to eventually be led outside to wait.

When I was being stitched up later on, I was still worrying that she was waiting outside for me and I felt bad that I didn't want to see her despite her coming to the hospital (my mental health is fucked, forgive me), and therefore this is my overriding memory of my son's birth. A midwife had to say to me, "it's okay if you don't want her here" before I felt comfortable asking them to get her to leave. I think DH went out and told her to go.

I really resent her for tainting my experience, and I feel that she is the reason I have such black holes in my memory of the rest of the birth.

In the six months since DS was born we've met up a couple of times but I feel very much that there is an elephant in the room between us. She's never mentioned the incident, except to say, "I'm glad I could be there for you" in a text the next day. I've started ignoring her text messages because I can't bear to see her or think about her. I'm so cross that she invaded such a private and personal time for us.
What do I do? Have it out with her? Just keep ignoring her until she gets the message? Get over it and pretend it never happened? I don't know how to proceed. We did have a good friendship before this, so I don't know if I'm being too hasty in writing her off - but I feel physically sick when she texts me.

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ResentfulAndSad · 29/06/2015 09:42

Well I've phoned and left a message for them to call me back. Stage one: done!

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Fugghetaboutit · 29/06/2015 09:49

Well done!

cleoteacher · 29/06/2015 09:57

Did you read the text you sent her again afterwards? Perhaps something in there was misinterpreted for her to think you wanted her there?

Very weird though.

EllaBella220 · 29/06/2015 16:37

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LoisPuddingLane · 29/06/2015 17:27

Only she didn't know which hospital it was. So how did she find out? It can't be that easy finding out if someone has been admitted - details are private.

ResentfulAndSad · 29/06/2015 17:59

Appointment is made for August. Thanks so much for all your help and advice and points of view.

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Garlick · 29/06/2015 18:22

Oh, well done Flowers You're doing a great thing for your future :)

getyourgeekon · 29/06/2015 19:50

Well done, that's great. I would advise taking someone if you feel able - it helped me massively having DH there. I'd also read my birth notes again in advance which was helpful too.
All the best X

MiscellaneousAssortment · 29/06/2015 20:36

Hey well done :)

That's a really brave thing you just did x

maggiethemagpie · 30/06/2015 09:15

I can see how your friend may have had good intentions that went a bit wrong. Sounds like she took you under her wing when you were pregnant, and became a bit of a mother to you. She may have taken this a bit too far. Alarm bells rang for me when you said she'd got you loads of baby things - sometimes people can do this not completely altruistically, but because they get a bit of a kick out of being needed. I'd imagine she thought she was a lot closer to you then she was, or than you thought she was.

I do think she was out of order to come to the labour ward but you need to find out if she did actually say she was your birth partner. Unfortunatley it is possible that both she and the hospital will distort the truth to put themselves in the best light.

The fact that she seemed shocked when she came into the room sounds to me like she didn't think things through but why she didn't just turn on her heel and go when it was obvious that you were not in a good state, I don't know.

FWIW I had a bad birth experience, although no where near what yours was like, and I had given my mum strict instructions not to turn up until visiting hours in the evening, but whilst I was in the recovery room after EMCS she rocked up, (although nurses wouldn't let her in) and my partner and I were well hacked off as he had to go out and chat to her for ages when he wanted to be with me and our new born. And that was my mother! So I can only imagine how difficult it would be if a friend had turned up and actually got in.

You really need to talk to her about this, or if you can't, accept that and move on. I do think the hospital need to answer for how she got in but I can imagine the staff involved saying they can't remember as it was a while ago, or distorting the truth of what was said in order to cover their own arses.

ResentfulAndSad · 20/08/2015 19:58

Hello!
I recently had my birth debrief and promised to come back and update, so here I am.
I'll cut to the chase: the midwife did not mention my friend being in the room whatsoever. There was no reference to it at all. So now I don't feel any further along than I was before.
The counsellor did agree to feed back that the hospital needs to improve its security procedures and ensure that actual names are used to identify visitors. She also offered for us to come back during any future pregnancies to help us write a concrete birth plan to try and avoid anything similar happening in the future.
I do feel much happier about the resuscitation situation, and feel that I understand why, what, where and how it happened.
I think I might write a letter to the friend to get out what I want to say, but probably not send it. We'll see. Thanks for all the support and advice! It really was invaluable WineThanks

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Smilingforth · 21/08/2015 07:12

I'm so glad you are feeling stronger now. Take careFlowers

chaiselounger · 21/08/2015 07:43

I too think you are projecting hugely. You need to get over a traumatic birth , rather than focus on this woman's role. You need to go through your birth notes.

Chinese whispers and out-and-out lies by busy midwives are not uncommon.

Does she have any other friends? Is she over-invested in your life?

Re my births, I had no one to help me, then or after. Thus, for friends, ( not even uber close friends, but just friends - like those that I have know fur a long time, that ds2 was at nursery with their children) I have gone the extra mile. I have cooked dinners, come round and cleaned, driven an hour to bring in a Breast pump to hospital. That could have been me, turning up early hoping to do the right thing, but actually making you scared.

All because I value the support I never had and being able to give it to others.
Maybe she is like that.
Or maybe she is just a nutter!!
I'm not sure you are in a fit place to be able to decide!!

Blu · 21/08/2015 07:44

I am glad you are feeling stronger and clearer overall .

It was weird , and it's possible that she got herself caught up in a fantasy situation where she arrived as a lovely surprise, cooing over the baby and ready to fetch you delicious snacks , like an angel . This is how some over-involved, probably narcissistic, members of my family would behave.

Could you bring the whole thing down a peg, and just ask casually 'oh, I've been meaning to ask you for ages: what on earth were you doing in the delivery room?' And then whatever her long effusive explanation is just say 'to be honest it was a bit of a distraction, but misunderstandings will happen '

I would keep more of a distance in general, though.

chaiselounger · 21/08/2015 08:01

Sorry. Hadn't Seen your last post. Isn't it irritating? When the thing you really want to know, isn't in your notes?
That's because it isn't really of medical importance - compared to you know your blood pressure, stats of baby.

But it was important to YOU.
And now, your'll never really know, because it's left you hanging.

But I am sure glad you've gone through your notes. I hope it has helped.

CrabbyTheCrabster · 21/08/2015 11:18

Have you spoken to or seen your friend in the meantime? Have you or she mentioned what happened?

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