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Friend did something weird and I can't get over it

216 replies

ResentfulAndSad · 26/06/2015 18:33

I have name changed as this is so personal and outing.

I've had a friend for around two years. We began as colleagues (she was senior to me), but stayed friends when I moved on. She's about fifteen years older than me, but it never had an effect on our friendship (not sure if it's even relevant). She has a young daughter who I get on well with.

When I was pregnant she was one of the first people I told and she was a great help to us, sourcing very cheap or sometimes free baby equipment, and I also really appreciated her experiences as a mother as I don't have any other friends who are parents.

On the day I went into labour we were due to meet up, so when I was in hospital I sent her a text to cancel our plans. After that I was too busy having a baby to check my phone, and DH was the same. Neither of us told her which hospital I was at, or which ward etc.

As soon as DC was born, he was taken away to be resuscitated, the reasons for which I still don't quite understand. I was shaking with adrenaline and very confused about where my baby was and whether he was alright. I was also haemorrhaging. A midwife came into the room and said, "your birth partner is here, may she come in?". When I was pregnant I had vaguely discussed with my sister the possibility of her being at the birth to support DH and to advocate for me, but in the end it was too much of a rush for her to be there (she lives a couple of hours drive away). So I assumed they meant my sister was here, which made little sense as she'd have been at work, but I thought perhaps she'd left early due to the Christmas holidays. I think I said something like, "is it [sister's name]?" but don't remember what the reply was. I said yes, let her in, I really want to see my sister. But my friend walked through the door. Bear in mind that I've got my legs apart, there is blood literally gushing out all over the place, I'm shaking and crying, wondering whether my baby is alive or dead - the last person I want in the room is her. But she just stood there in the middle of the room in absolute silence. I'm quite an apologetic, doormat type of person by nature, and I found myself apologising to this woman that I couldn't really chat right now because I'd just given birth and I didn't know whether my baby was okay or not. I'm appalled at myself for that now, and wish I'd stood up for myself and told her to fuck off, and I'm cross at DH and the midwives for not recognising how inappropriate the situation was. It took a long time for her to eventually be led outside to wait.

When I was being stitched up later on, I was still worrying that she was waiting outside for me and I felt bad that I didn't want to see her despite her coming to the hospital (my mental health is fucked, forgive me), and therefore this is my overriding memory of my son's birth. A midwife had to say to me, "it's okay if you don't want her here" before I felt comfortable asking them to get her to leave. I think DH went out and told her to go.

I really resent her for tainting my experience, and I feel that she is the reason I have such black holes in my memory of the rest of the birth.

In the six months since DS was born we've met up a couple of times but I feel very much that there is an elephant in the room between us. She's never mentioned the incident, except to say, "I'm glad I could be there for you" in a text the next day. I've started ignoring her text messages because I can't bear to see her or think about her. I'm so cross that she invaded such a private and personal time for us.
What do I do? Have it out with her? Just keep ignoring her until she gets the message? Get over it and pretend it never happened? I don't know how to proceed. We did have a good friendship before this, so I don't know if I'm being too hasty in writing her off - but I feel physically sick when she texts me.

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VivaLeBeaver · 26/06/2015 19:19

Quint, it happens.

Worst thing I've known is someone who buzzed to come in saying she was with "room 6". Was let in, the midwife at the desk recognised the visitor who indeed had been with Room 6 earlier in the night.

But the woman she knew had moved to the postnatal ward, the room had been cleaned and there was a different woman in there when this person strolled in the room.

No idea how the first resident of the room neglected to tell her friend she'd moved ward.

Enjoyingmycoffee1981 · 26/06/2015 19:20

You are not entirely sure why your son was taken from you.

I would say that your issues with your birth are far broader and more profound than your thoughtless friend. However you seem to be focussing all you confusion, anger and sadness at this woman. Write to her, get it all off your chest, but I wouldn't remove her from your life, unless of course you actually actively want to.

lavenderhoney · 26/06/2015 19:20

If you can't face calling her, which is fine and totally understandable, would your dh or a friend do so for you? A call is important, not text or email, because it's so sensitive a subject and talking for real is much clearer.

Write down what you want to know, and get them to ask. They can tell her you are traumatised and very fragile - which you are- but the standing still in shock means she wasn't expecting that, to me. Let them ask, and then they can say you'll be in contact when you feel able, and please could she respect that and wait.

Purpleboa · 26/06/2015 19:22

With the memory of my birth very fresh, I recall there was a buzzer to get into the labour suite, and then an admissions desk to get through! You'd be hard pushed to find the labour suite in my hospital, it is well hidden away and rightly so. I only saw the midwifes and no one else.

Sorry but I am really struggling with people's responses to this. Although as I have just given birth my reaction is probably going to be more emotional than normal, I still think this is like something out of 'Single White Female' territory.

maria543 · 26/06/2015 19:24

I too think it's possible the midwife was mistaken. I actually heard my midwife lie to the doctor during my labour to cover herself. Most midwives are wonderful, yes, but as in all professions, there are exceptions to the rule. Ask your friend. It sounds like the friendship can't move on anyway, so you might as well risk blowing it apart by asking the question.

Good luck and so sorry this happened to you, no matter who made the mistake/lied.

ResentfulAndSad · 26/06/2015 19:27

I do need to deal with the issues regarding DS' resuscitation, but I suppose it was the fact that she was in the room at all, when I had given birth moments before, that is really bothering me. The fact that I didn't know if my baby was okay is just the icing on the cake I suppose, in an otherwise inappropriate situation. I gave birth very quickly, so she would have arrived around four or five hours after my cancellation text. So I do feel that she thought I would still be "busy".
I think the consensus is that I need to speak to her in some form, and get her side of the story.

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saltnpepa · 26/06/2015 19:28

Never see her again, she's a freak.

ResentfulAndSad · 26/06/2015 19:29

I should reiterate also that she was a good friend, and this incident really shocked me and made me re-evaluate our friendship because it was so strange. So maybe there were crossed wires somewhere.

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TheVeryThing · 26/06/2015 19:32

I don't understand those saying she probably thought you were cuddling a new born.
In my maternity hospital the postal natal and delivery wards are entirely separate and visitors are not allowed in the delivery ward.
They wait until you're on post natal ward and are allowed insyndicated times.
Who in hell visits a woman who has just given birth before they are told it's ok to do so?
This sounds like a very distressing experience and I hope you get appropriate support to deal with it. I don't blame you for not wanting to see this woman.

reallybadday · 26/06/2015 19:33

My SIL visited me on the labour ward six hours after I went it. She came to keep me company in case nothing was happening and I was needing support. She was right! I was so frustrated and the visit was a welcome distraction. Had I gone as fast as you seem to have, she would have arrived after I gave birth so it's a hard one to time!

saltnpepa · 26/06/2015 19:36

Did you call her/txt her as you went into labour asking her to come? If not she had no business being there.

getyourgeekon · 26/06/2015 19:38

Flowers to you. I don't think I could continue to be friends, but I would probably bow out of the friendship quietly.
Re the labour ward and then midwives letting her in, that is something you could write a formal complaint about, I think. It's not too late to do that.

Cretaceous · 26/06/2015 19:41

"If not she had no business being there."
But maybe she happened to be visiting someone else there, thought she'd pop her head round the door not expecting the baby to have been delivered, the midwife showed her through, and then she was horrified to have arrived when she did. Or maybe she is strange. We can all speculate, but we don't know, and if she was a good friend, poor RandS just needs to ask her. Then all will be revealed. The fact it seems so odd suggests there is a normal explanation, to me.

FatimaLovesBread · 26/06/2015 19:43

But surely if she was just visiting to see the new baby, she'd wait until the parents had actually anounced the news! The baby was in truss and the mum haemorrhaging and not yet stiched up. I'm sure birth announcements were the furthest thing from their mind at that point.

If I was visiting a friend and newborn I'd wait until she'd actually told me it'd arrived first and check she was up to visitors

WLTMEET · 26/06/2015 19:43

The fact that she stood there without moving indicates shock to me. She wouldn't have expected that or wanted to be there?
Nothing compared to the shock you were undergoing at the time though.

Floggingmolly · 26/06/2015 19:43

If she was so horrified, she wouldn't have preened herself afterwards, telling op how great she felt having been there for her?

Weebirdie · 26/06/2015 19:45

I think Vivalebeaver is spot on here, as are some of the other posters who aren't prepared to automatically believe there wasn't some confusion on the day.

Enjoyingmycoffee1981 · 26/06/2015 19:45

Creta, that is some stretch! The woman was meant to be meeting the OP that very afternoon, but you are saying that there is a chance that by some coincidence this woman decided to visit someone else in the same hospital as the OP was giving birth when the OP cancelled on her?!

The fact that the woman has kept very quiet on the mater would indicate that she knows what she did was strange and regrets it.

Bakeoffcake · 26/06/2015 19:46

She is so odd, even if she hadn't said she was a birth partner, it was very inappropriate of her to turn up to the labour ward, 5 hours after being told you were in labour. any normal person would wait for visiting time surely?
Also the fact she's never apologised to you is very odd.

I do agree that you need to go through your birth with someone at the hospital, so you can understand what happened to you and your baby. But I would tell your "friend" that turning up whilst you were giving birth was so inappropriate and you can't get over it.

FryOneFatManic · 26/06/2015 19:50

Neither of us told her which hospital I was at, or which ward etc.

This is the bit that I feel puts the friend's behaviour definitely in the category of overstepping boundaries massively.

Did she ring round trying to determine which hospital the OP was at? This makes me think she was really try to muscle in on the OP.

Wishful80sMontage · 26/06/2015 19:53

I would be freaked out. She's continuing to make you feel uncomfortable because of her weird actions- it's ok for you to not be her friend.
I would end the friendship if it was me.

Cretaceous · 26/06/2015 19:53

Enjoying - I'm saying we don't know. As the woman had hitherto been a good friend, it seems unlikely to me that she would have deliberately gone in the room in that situation. I think it's more likely there was confusion. The OP just needs to ask to clear it up, and then reach a decision. It would be awful to lose a good friend over a total misunderstanding. On the other hand, it may turn out she is overstepping boundaries. But no-one can judge until they have heard the woman's side of the story.

TheoriginalLEM · 26/06/2015 19:54

have you had any counselling at all? i had a very normal birth experience but dd was getting distressed towards the end and i was convinced she would die. It was a very normal ok birth yet i was traumatised. i relived the whole thing overand over and was convinced dd would be taken from me. i ended up with pnd.

I think you need to "debrief " from what sounds like a traumatic birth experience. This will help you separate your friends behaviour from inappropriate and upsetting.

As for her? does she usually over step the mark?

it is ok to distance yourself.

BanditoShipman · 26/06/2015 19:54

OP, feel free to ignore this but your post rang some bells with me.

I had a traumatic first birth (my second was fine), but nowhere near as traumatic as yours sounds. I walked around in a daze for about 6 months afterwards. When my friends told me they were expecting I cried because I 'knew' the trauma that awaited them in giving birth.

Eventually I was diagnosed with pnd. I'm not saying this is the case here at all but the way you are feeling about certain things does sound like the way I was.

You have every right to be extremely pissed off with her and the midwives who let her in, but at the same time it might be time to get help to let it go so you can enjoy your baby Smile

Bolshybookworm · 26/06/2015 19:55

I wouldn't be able to get past this, it's a massive invasion of privacy. Even if it was entirely accidental, it's still incredibly thoughtless (why not at least text first?!). If it was my bestest, bestest friend I'd probably try and find a way to get past it but otherwise I'd let the friendship go. Not saying she's an awful person, but I remember how vulnerable I felt immediately after giving birth and I would have found a situation like this very, very upsetting. I can completely understand why she's become a trigger for your memories.