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Am I wrong to be really upset? tmi!

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mrsvindiesel · 25/06/2015 01:08

I can't sleep and fighting back tears
my partner is snoring beside me, today for once he was feeling horny it seems as was sending me messages at work about what we should do later
it was nice for once as he never does this! but in reality it was awful
his ideas sounded great, bit porn-y but he is a bloke and I got caught up in the thrill of it I guess
when we actually got to bed it was all about him, god I'm sorry if this is far tmi but I have to be frank unless it doesnt make sense!
he wanted to kneel infront of me and me give him head so he was in control apparently, I let him but he was getting too into it I guess and kept choking me making me heave and like I couldnt breathe I felt panicked and wasnt enjoying it at all
In the end I grabbed him and pushed him off and turned over quietly crying to myself.
he did keep asking if I was upset and I said no I'm fine but it was obvious I wasn't as he said I was making him feel guilty and to stop it.
I dont know what to think or say now, maybe what ive put on here doesnt paint the picture to the full and sounds petty but it was awful
I lay and silently cried till he went to sleep, ive never had a sexual experience especially with someone thats meant to love me like that
please someone say I'm not overreacting I dont even want to look at him at the moment I feel so hurt

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Lweji · 01/07/2015 23:23

I am somewhat concerned that you haven't actually broken up with him yet, but asked for time to think.
What do you think it's stopping you from making that final step?

mrsvindiesel · 01/07/2015 23:42

pocketsaviour and jux thank you those messages were so kind and I really hope you're right...
it feels hard to imagine that atm hes made me feel worth nothing but I hope one day it comes true

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FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 02/07/2015 07:26

You are worth a million times him. What kind of horrible person is told, "when you did that, you really hurt me and I couldn't breath, I'm very upset" and responds with, "you're overreacting"?

Why does he think he gets to decide what is upsetting and what isn't? I can guarantee there isn't one woman on this thread who wouldn't feel devastated and violated if their partner did that to them. I love my dh very much, we have a wonderful home and children together, but if he did that I would leave him. Nice people don't behave like that and then try to blame you for overreacting.

I care too. I do understand you need time to process your feelings. I hope you're working towards ending things for good. He has done nothing that deserves any forgiveness or kindness from you. You deserve to be cherished.

Joysmum · 02/07/2015 08:12

I hope he realises what he did was wrong and the impact its had on me...of course he will never admit that though

Hardly great relationship material then. I'd pity anyone who who be willing to settle for that. Hmm

mrsvindiesel · 02/07/2015 09:08

I didnt say I was willing to settle for it I just wish I knew why....
why de he ruin everything for 5 min where he thought he was in a porn film or something its just such a waste Sad

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Sawyer1986 · 02/07/2015 09:18

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butterflygirl15 · 02/07/2015 09:22

Sawyer - you really need to educate yourself and stop the victim blaming. How bloody dare you.

pocketsaviour · 02/07/2015 09:26

Sawyer maybe try reading the fucking thread, and then explain how you think OP could have "talked to him" when he was literally choking her with his dick and not even looking at her to make sure she was okay.

And if that doesn't change your mind, have great fun with your life as a rape apologist. Angry

Sawyer1986 · 02/07/2015 09:31

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Lweji · 02/07/2015 09:44

Sawyer
Read the fucking op and stop posting obtuse and idiotic posts

She didn't agree to what he did to her because he didn't explain or discuss it with her the full extent of what he was going to do.
Then she couldn't stand up and stop it because he had his weight on her face.

Why don't y ou try it and let us know how you get on?

butterflygirl15 · 02/07/2015 09:46

OP - I believe you completely.

Please ignore anyone who doesn't as they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. It is attitudes like Sawyer's which make victims scared to speak up and fills them with self doubt.

Sawyer1986 · 02/07/2015 09:48

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Sawyer1986 · 02/07/2015 09:48

*she can be upset

butterflygirl15 · 02/07/2015 09:50

how do you communicate when you are being choked? Semaphore?

tipsytrifle · 02/07/2015 09:52

Sawyer - why didn't she stand up? Because he was lying on her face while choking her! This is not an abstract, generality thread; it's a specific individual situation that presented plenty of hazard to OP.

Of course, in generality, the way this act was performed had more to do with porn at its worst, objectification-style, than trying something new in a relationship.

Anniegetyourgun · 02/07/2015 09:59

OP, it wasn't throwing it away for five minutes of porn-style sex though, was it? It was a manifestation of an already existing thoughtless, self-centred attitude. This is not a man who seriously cares about you, sadly. Hopefully there is love out there for you; this isn't it. By doing what he did he showed his true colours in a way you couldn't ignore. Yes, he was stupid showing it before the contract for the purchase was signed, but thank goodness he did or you'd have been in for a lifetime of such treatment.

Sawyer, no you do not have as much right to post when what you post is against MN guidelines. Perhaps you have never been in a relationship where you felt unable to speak out because you were intimidated by your partner? There's more than one reason why that may be the case, and the OP preferring to have a moan to strangers than to talk to her partner is most unlikely to be the main one.

Lweji · 02/07/2015 10:38

It actually a public forum so I have as much right to post as you...

I was trying to help you not sound like a twat and a rapist apologist. You can take the advice or not...

foolonthehill · 02/07/2015 10:38

Op I too have been away from the thread...
I am glad you are still posting.

The way he treated you was ans always will be appalling. You grieve for the man he could have been but wasn't. You grieve for the relationship you could have had, but didn't.

Stay away and keep posting.
ignore what is not helpful to you, or those people who can't tell the difference between rape and misunderstanding and the context of an unequal and damaging relationship.

you will be ok, better than ok but it's going to take time. You are worth so much better and more.

I think you would find a lot of help and support from the freedom progamme. see if women's aid have one running near you.

Lweji · 02/07/2015 10:40

the way this act was performed had more to do with porn at its worst, objectification-style, than trying something new in a relationship.

I disagree to a point.

I think it was more to do with control and power over the OP. Subjecting her to something she didn't agree to and wasn't in any way expecting. So: rape!

mrsvindiesel · 02/07/2015 12:31

hi all just logged on on my lunchbreak ... I dont know what to say??? sawyers posts are really upsetting but thank you all for standing up for me

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FlibbertigibbetArmadillo · 02/07/2015 12:58

Hi OP,
This is actually by first post (long time lurker all over Mumsnet)
I just wanted to post to say I hope you are doing ok today and to please ignore horrible posters. Look at the majority of the posts on here. We believe you Flowers
You ARE not overeacting, and I think you are amazingly strong.

tipsytrifle · 02/07/2015 13:51

Annie's posts seem to describe this awful relationship very well. What do you think, mrsvindiesel?

Lweji - yes, agreed. This was an assault, premeditated. No-one in their right mind would agree to such a painful, dangerous position. Sex dolls - whether breathing or not - have no rights. Words actually fail me atm.

HelloWheels · 02/07/2015 13:55

Mrsvindeisel - I missed sawyers posts, thankfully.

I have just read the full thread. I want to tell you that I know almost exactly what you are going through.

I had a very similar situation with my now ExP. It was a year ago, I wasn't brave enough to leave him. I stayed and he got worse. I only finally dumped him last week.

I know exactly what you mean about missing him and being sad etc. I miss my ExP too, but as a pp said, I miss my idealised version of him, not the reality.

He made me feel like shit at times, but he would dismiss my feelings, make me feel like I was overreacting, call me neurotic etc. Like you I never told anyone everything because I knew that they would be horrified and tell me to leave him. I was so embarrassed by the way he treated me, the way he spoke to me. I told myself that it wasn't too bad, he wasn't directly abusive, just "inexperienced in relationships".

Two weeks ago he name called me and then minimised it when I told him I was upset. The name calling wasn't too bad "snob" so not "bitch" or anything obviously abusive but I'm sure it would have got worse if I hadn't binned him.

The incident last year that was similar to yours also involved deep throating and gagging. He minimised my upset and distress. It took me four days to react, four days to find my anger and kick him out. Like you I was in shock.

Unfortunately I took him back and suffered more. I stayed with him for too long because we have child. I am so glad that you have had the strength to cancel your house purchase. We have both done the right thing.

We miss our exPs because we excused them every time, "he's upset because of x" etc, we tried to see the good in them. We wanted them to be good partners, wanted them to love us. They chipped away and chipped away and chipped away at our confidence until we needed people on here (thank god!) to highlight it as abuse to us.

He didn't ruin the relationship in five minutes. He ruined the relationship by his attitude to you that underpinned every interaction - you can hopefully see that more clearly now, as can I. His attitude that led to his abuse. His belief that you were there for him to use. His pure selfishness that meant he couldn't comfort you when he had hurt you and caused you distress.

I am still crying about my particular bastard every day, missing the physicality of him, but I know it will get easier. Stay strong, we are both doing really well and we will look back and be proud one day.

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 02/07/2015 14:09

HelloWheels Flowers

I'm so sorry you had a similar experience. Well done on finding the strength to leave him! It gets easier. One day you'll look back and I think "what a waste of time and tears that useless man was".

mrsvindiesel · 02/07/2015 15:04

flibbert...thank you for not just lurking but commenting as it does help knowing im not wrong to be upset

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