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Wife's cheating - please help

215 replies

DadNeedsAdvice · 24/06/2015 10:22

Hi,

I'd a dad, married for 5 years and have 2 great kids - a boy aged 3 and a girl of 7 months. I've discovered that my wife has been cheating on me and it feels like my world has fallen apart. I'm looking for some advice and perspective from you if you think you can help me.

Two days ago, I found 100's of phone messages between her and her boss dating back 18 months to Feb 2014. She no longer works there as she is on maternity leave but was intending to go back next month. The messages start off quite friendly and then quickly become sexual in nature - while it's clear that her boss initiated the sexual side of things, my wife went along with it and they sent eachother some pretty graphic text messages - I'm sure you can guess at the content. The boss also sent her a number of sexual pictures and videos, although I didn't find any evidence of her doing the same.

I confronted my wife who initially denied anything was going on but when I said I had all the evidence, she said that they had only kissed a few times and that clothes were kept on at all times - she says they never had sex. However, I do know that they had been on a couple of business trips together and had been in the same hotel .. again, my wife said they only kissed & touched and is pretty insistant about that. In some ways, I do believe her as in some of the messages, she says that she would go further if she wasn't married and that "don't you just wish that there were no consequences sometimes and that people can do what they want and no-one else would get hurt?". One of the messages from her (ex) boss refers to a time they were on a business trip and in a hotel room "kissing passionately and holding eachother very closely".

What really hurts is that much of this was taking place when my wife was pregnant with our 2nd child - she would have been around 5 months pregnant when they were in the same hotel room. On top of that, they had been messaging eachother when my wife & I had been away on holiday, on our recent anniversary and so on. I have to say, that although this all started at around the time my wife fell pregnant, I've no doubt that I'm the father as my daughter looks very like me.

My wife has been crying alot since this all came out and repeatedly says she's sorry and that it meant nothing and that she loves me but I hope you can understand how hard it is for me to forgive. I love my kids more than anything and feel sick at the thought of the family falling apart but at the same time, my wife's cheating (whether there was sex or not) hurts me so badly and I don't know what to do.

When I confronted her, I told her to phone her boss (in front of me) and tell him that she wouldn't be going back as I had found their messages and that he shouldn't contact her again. He didn't really say much, just "yes" and "ok" but that would have been (and here's a crucial point) that he is currently away with HIS wife on holiday, so he couldn't talk alot anyway.

I really don't know what to do and my mind is in turmoil. On one hand, I don't want to lose my family, but on the other, the thought of my wife (as a minimum kissing & touching) another man is playing over in my mind - it has only been 2 days so is still pretty raw but I don't know if it will ever get better to the point I can forgive & trust her. Over the past couple of months, their messages were less sexual in nature, although he was hinting that he's like to keep it going - her responses were more friendly in nature.

The other thing is that I have lots of evidence - messages and explicit pictures (of him only) and am considering telling his wife. Would this be the right thing to do? Of course it would hurt his wife but I think she shoud know. I admit, that there's an element of revenge in my mind as well. How should he be able to do this and just get away with it and be able to do this again?

Just writing this has helped me, but if you have any advice to offer, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

OP posts:
mynewpassion · 28/06/2015 18:25

She should have individual counseling for herself before having marriage counseling. She needs to figure out why she decided to embark onan affair with her boss.

no to renewal of vows. Her sisters might already know.

DinnaeKnowShitFromClay · 28/06/2015 20:59

Renewing vows is as tacky as hell under these circumstances. Christ but she's got some neck on her! She has done everything bar PIV (and that only because she's pregnant) only stopped when she has been caught and now mentions renewing vows! She's taking the piss!

SomebodysRealName · 29/06/2015 06:09

Renewing vows is part of the cheater script. She didn't keep them the first time - don't entertain such a farce, OP.

DinnaeKnowShitFromClay · 29/06/2015 07:10

Maybe crack on and tell the OM's wife. When things start to bubble, stuff comes to the surface. You might get more facts to help you make better decisions. Just the renewing the vows thing would make me realise what a flippant attitude she has to the marriage.

DadNeedsAdvice · 29/06/2015 07:56

The OM's wife will be finding out today, assuming I can get hold of her. Failing that, tomorrow

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Vivacia · 29/06/2015 08:11

How are you going to tell her OP?

goddessofsmallthings · 29/06/2015 08:30

Imo it's him you should be confronting first but it seems you don't want to risk hearing that they did have a full-on sexual affair.

goddessofsmallthings · 29/06/2015 08:34

I imagine the conversation will go something along the lines of 'your dh has been lusting after my dw and she's been lusting after him for the past 2 years but it's alright, they didn't have sex'. Hmm

You do know that once you've told his dw there'll be no chance of getting the truth out of him, don't you?

Sallyingforth · 29/06/2015 10:00

The two people have been unfaithful to their married partners. What more 'truth' is needed? Whether or not PiV occurred is not the real issue.

Azulejo9 · 29/06/2015 10:38

Dad needs advice
Agree with pp your wife is looking at damage limitation. In your circumstances I'd ask for a DNA & STI first and I'd would not agree to renewing vows, you didn't break yours she did.
I've been in your situation and in time the full truth will emerge. It always does.
Wishing you well
Az

DadNeedsAdvice · 29/06/2015 19:25

I phoned the man's wife today, introduced myself and asked if she would be prepared to meet her to discuss something with her. We met at lunchtime and spent a good 2 hours going over things. It turns out he had had another affair 10 years ago but she had managed to rebuild what they had, mainly because they had 2 kids at the time. Although I felt bad delivering bad news, she's glad I told her and she actually managed to keep fairly cool. She is going to contact me once she's confronted him...

OP posts:
Vivacia · 29/06/2015 19:30

I think that you really did the right thing today. Poor woman though, I'd be in pieces.

How are you holding up? Flowers

worserevived · 29/06/2015 19:33

That took guts. Believe me she will have been very grateful Flowers

DinnaeKnowShitFromClay · 29/06/2015 20:31

You have done the right thing DNA. I bet your wife would be interested to know she is not the first affair he has had but there's no benefit to dropping that little egg!

I would want to know. All the posters on here that say don't spill, seriously? If a genuine soul came to you with incontrovertible proof of your DH's infidelity, you would prefer not to know? I find that hard to believe and a bit sad really. Like the illusion of a happy life is more important than...well..an actual happy life. : (

textfan · 29/06/2015 20:43

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Granville72 · 29/06/2015 20:49

Well done for telling her and to her face.

How are you feeling about things yourself atm?

Maleperspective99 · 29/06/2015 20:57

If she is cheating so early on in the relationship I'm sorry to say the next 40 years don't look good. Is she very insecure? In my experience this leads to women cheating, if so this needs to be addresses if your relationship is to last.

Vivacia · 29/06/2015 21:04

Your experience is of being insecure and cheating on your boyfriend?

DadNeedsAdvice · 29/06/2015 22:19

I'm feeling a little better in myself but there's no way I could continue to function feeling likeninwas for the past week. Hysterical bonding urges have certainly kicked in as well. I guess time will tell what happens in the end - sometimes thoughts of trying to fix it enter my head but the next moment, it's "NO, NEVER..HOW COULD SHE DO RHAT TO ME?". I feel happy to have told the other wife and while it was hard, I think undid the right thing. I'm sure the man is experiencing an uncomfortable evening

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bjrce · 29/06/2015 22:56

O My God, I am really sorry, you are having a really tough time of it.

Does your W know you spoke to the OM wife?
You did the right thing, you probably can even feel that right now. I hope everything works out for you.

mynewpassion · 29/06/2015 23:03

Hose down those hysterical bonding urges because its just a bandaid and not a long term answer to if your marriage will survive or not.

goddessofsmallthings · 29/06/2015 23:05

So he had another affair 10 years ago? Philandering twunts don't change their spots and I'd put money on there having been others during the 8 years before your wife began her extra-marital liaison with him.

7amliein · 29/06/2015 23:17

You'll have to think long and hard before leaving her. Remember the legal system doesn't care about the reason for the separation. You will be taken to the cleaners - especially after her girlfriends get involved and start winding her up about what she is entitled to. Play it cleverly - maybe get her to sign all joint assets over to you as a condition of considering staying together or whatever. Take legal advice now!

textfan · 30/06/2015 00:18

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readingtoomuchintoit · 30/06/2015 06:04

Play it cleverly - maybe get her to sign all joint assets over to you as a condition of considering staying together or whatever.

Hmm.

OP would not be "taken to the cleaners" - but in law yes, both parties are entitled to an equal share of any assets.