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Affair Part 5 - fab phee kicks arse wearing her skinny jeans

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OpheliaRose · 19/05/2015 21:02

Many you will have read my threads 1 2 3 4

A month ago I discovered my Husband had been having an affair with a girl from his work. I thought it was one of the most painful moments of my life but the subsequent day where far more painful when the full extent of his betrayal was exposed to me and he has shown no remorse or sorrow over the loss of our marriage in fact he has left me for the OW

I have started divorce procedures on the grounds of adultery each day is proving a struggle but I am getting through it with the help of all of you.

All I want when this is over is for me and my Twins to be happy. We all deserve so much better than him

OP posts:
Wristy · 21/05/2015 10:01

Phee!!!! Or should that be Fab Phee now?

Wow you have been busy. Great news on the job front, I think every mother feels the same when they head back to work. I'm about to do the same after 10 months of maternity leave, so I can only imagine how you feel after almost 3 years!

Plus a nice little surprise in the form of a supportive text, even more of a surprise if she was really pally with the pair of them. If she's a mate and tolerates a little more then imagine how many other folk they're pissing off with they're antics. I agree with the previous poster that you should take these messages and multiply by 5-10 to give areal idea of how many folk despise what they've done/ are doing.

Keep at it chick!! (Love the thread title too, look how far you've come!!)

Izzy24 · 21/05/2015 11:52

Another person here reading and willing you on.

alohayoohoo · 21/05/2015 12:07

Opheliarose, I have read all your posts from the five threads you created...

Ten years ago, I was married to the father of my child, he is a kind man, decent, solvent, handsome. My current husband was married to the mother of his two kids, she is a kind woman, decent, attractive. We were all in our late thirties and early forties, we all worked except for his ex whom until then, had no work experience or qualifications.

We were both content to an extent with our marriages. They were functional. They were just like the marriages of my friends and work colleagues... We had grown apart from our ex-spouses somewhat, our conversations with them were mainly about domestic matters, we enjoyed their company, it was safe, it was what we knew, it was what we thought we had chosen and wanted.

I met my current husband on a train and that single trip changed our lives. Within a month we had ended our previous marriages and begun divorce proceedings.

I used to live in a stunning Georgian terrace with my ex-husband and my son. We drove and brand new BMW. We had a long haul holiday every year and several breaks within Europe... They enjoyed a similar lifestyle.

My current husband and I gave all of that up. Both of us signed of the house and car to our exes. He gives his ex-wife half his salary every month and will continue to do so indefinitely. I have never accepted any money from my ex-husband. My son chose to stay with his dad and I have him one afternoon a week, and every other weekend. I also have him when his dad travels for work, which is at least one week a month. This is tricky to juggle, but I have worked full time since my son was a year old, and I would strongly recommend to all women in the world to undertake some sort of paid employment or training, to have something to fall back on.

Not seeing our children every day is painful, but I am grateful that this happened with the kids were young. Friends of mine that are divorcing or became widowed now that their kids are teenagers and older are going through hell. A younger child accepts reality as it is presented to them.

I met his kids, they were four and seven back then, two months after we met. He met my son a week earlier. I remember his ex trying to prevent this from happening. I was prepared to wait to meet his children but he wanted me to know them straight away. I dreaded this, I thought they would reject me, but they didn't. They never did, neither did my son. Our respective children embraced each other too. They sought each other out in their own way. Eventually they felt as if they hadn't lost people they loved, but they won more people that loved them.

Of course, their lives changed, their families changed and this was painful for all involved. You can choose to think that your ex husband and this woman aren't afraid and feel no remorse, but they wouldn't be human if that was the case.

We were unhappy and we didn't even know how unhappy we were until we met... We didn't have the decency and the nobility to end our marriages before we got together. We are not proud, that was a diabolically shameful thing to do. What happened had a huge financial and emotional cost. We had to deal with the rage of our ex's families and friends, we lost so many people we cared for in the process.

I am so sorry that this happened to you. We carry huge remorse because of the pain we have caused... Believe you me, if your ex and this woman go the distance, they will bear the same wound, and so they should.

AndyWarholsOrange · 21/05/2015 12:40

Ledkr I know exactly what you mean. My BIL walked out on his wife of 12 years and their children and moved in with a 21 year old TA (he was a head of department).
When she started dating about 6 months later, he was furious- saying things like 'That didn't take you long did it?'and telling everyone what a slag she was.
Phee will there be any hot single men at your work? Wink

LondonRocks · 21/05/2015 12:40

Aloha, I'm not sure what point you are making, but who knows how things will progress for Phee and her nasty ex. I think you are possibly feeding into some of Phee's fears here, actually, and I'm a bit Hmm.

Lucky you that your kids all got on and all that, but if you have read the other threads, you will know that Phee has had a lot of crap imposed on her (understatement) and not all of you what you say is a) relevant or b) helpful, coming from the stance of someone who left her marriage...

Yes, you made choices in your life and you reap what you sowed. It's good to hear that consciences were pricked. Otherwise, you wouldn't be human.

But please put yourself in Phee's shoes. I obviously won't and can't speak her but I feel uncomfortable just reading some of what you wrote.

upduffedandworrying · 21/05/2015 12:42

Aloha why would you post something like that on this thread. really fucking insensitive.

eminthebigsmoke · 21/05/2015 12:52

I see through all of that you retained the ability to be massively self-centred.

The last para on its own would have done.

MerryMarigold · 21/05/2015 12:54

Aloha, yes it is possible to be unhappy in a marriage and it is possible to find someone you truly love. It is even possible to make a horrible mistake and slip into an affair. We will see if this is the real deal in time, it's pretty hard to judge, although a lot of their behaviour makes me doubt it.

What is truly unforgivable in my opinion, in Phee's case is her exH's subsequent treatment of her. Telling her hurtful details of the affair, making demands on her of when he wants his stuff/ when he should have his kids, telling her she can't come to a wedding, posting stuff all over facebook when he knows she's on there, trying to control her (being upset she sent the solicitor letter), having no sympathy for what she's going through (wanting to introduce OW so soon), making up lies about what's happened so he doesn't look too bad to friends and work colleagues, not showing even an inkling of having hurt her. I sincerely hope you didn't behave in that way, because if you did, you have a right cheek being on here.

sassandfaff · 21/05/2015 12:54

I read all that aloha and all I heard is your son chose to live with his dad.

Hell would freeze over before I would place more happiness in my new relationship than that of my children. Hmm

You do realise that the personality trait that led you to put yourself first, just manifested itself in that post.

Wristy · 21/05/2015 13:03

Thank God you girlies articulated that better than me!!! I read aloha's post and simply wanted to post- do one you selfish cow!

laurierf · 21/05/2015 13:07

alohayoohoo - I'm sure that was a kindly meant post to reassure Phee that H and WF are not just going to skip off into the sunset happily ever after, but I hope people respond "boo fucking hoo" if and when H starts saying "We didn't have the decency and the nobility to wait until my marriage was over and, for that, WF and I will always bear the burden of that huge remorse as Phee is a kind and decent woman. I've suffered emotionally and financially to make sure she is looked after but that is the wound I bear and that is as it should be… blah, blah, blah"

Hmm
sassandfaff · 21/05/2015 13:10

The whole tone of the post suggests aloha sees the destruction as 'collateral damage'...........that was worth it.

[shocked]

sassandfaff · 21/05/2015 13:10
Shock
molyholy · 21/05/2015 13:13

Aloha

I see through all of that you retained the ability to be massively self-centred

This ^^^ Shock

molyholy · 21/05/2015 13:15

Eminthebigsmoke - That is to say I agree with your post btw

upduffedandworrying · 21/05/2015 13:18

aloha I'd watch your back if I were you love. If he cheated on his wife based on one train journey then what's to stop him doing it to you too?

ninawish · 21/05/2015 13:19

Fuck off aloha

So not appropriate

eminthebigsmoke · 21/05/2015 13:19

Thanks Moly - unbelievable isn't it.

MacFleetwood · 21/05/2015 13:21

Following thread.
Whilst I have nothing to say that others have said better - I can't believe I read alohas insensitive post.
Love you phee xxx

Chipshopninja · 21/05/2015 13:22

Jesus, some people! Confused

NoWireCoathangers · 21/05/2015 13:24

Just make sure that when your ex knows you're working he doesn't adjust what he's currently paying as you've now got an income.

AndyWarholsOrange · 21/05/2015 13:26

aloha Did you give him a blow job in the train toilet?

GERTI · 21/05/2015 13:44

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

laurierf · 21/05/2015 13:44

I'm still Shock Hmm Angry

Phee - if you take one thing from the latest posts in this thread, let it be that people do NOT appreciate this sort of self-indulgent story-telling… hence H/OW's colleagues getting pissed off with whatever's been said and getting in touch to let you know they are most definitely thinking of you and the kids in all of this and not buying the bs.

MaMaof04 · 21/05/2015 13:57

Aloha
Your son chose to stay with his dad: you would not have been entitled to any monies. You might have chosen love over monies (not sure about that one- you did not disclose how rich is your current husband). Your son also chose his dad over you- this says a lot to most of us here. I do not know why but I doubt that your conscience kicked in: I think some loneliness and decent people reactions to your selfishness got finally the best of your smugness. (And believe me the behavior you displayed is still more decent than WF's and STBX's behavior). So that is the only message I take from you: they will eventually feel bad about themselves and we ordinary people who do not know what it means to leave big wealth (we do not have much) to go after out heart (incidentally our heart is where our kids are) will make sure that WF and STBX rot wherever they are.
Maybe you wanted to tell Phee that it is OK if her twins meet the OW and her C sooner than later: but you surely agree that as a Mum your experience is sad and poor and hence your parenting advices do not weigh much in our closed circle of Mums that support Phee. Her twins will meet the two cunts when Phee is confident that these sinners are covering their obscene nudity and not by some leaf of fig only not much meaning but I just like the biblical image of these two cursed people.

Fab Phee how are you today? How are the twins?