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Please - I desperately need help. A truly horrible situation

237 replies

ChopinLiszt · 17/05/2015 21:55

I've nc for this. I've posted one or two threads recently and I'm worried about being outed.

I've been plucking up the courage to post this for such a long time but it feels like when I start to talk about it, the floodgates might open and I'm only coping at the moment by blocking most of it out.

Basically, ex-DH and I separated two and half years ago. I left him and we both went into other relationships. About six months into mine DH decided to be nasty and threatened constantly to spread lies and rumours about me. He specifically said he was going to contact my then partner and tell him all manner of horrible, personal things about me; some true and some not. DH also rang round my family and told them I was working as an escort (I was not, nor have I ever, I think it was the most damaging thing he could come up with). The absolute embarrassment and shame of having to discuss this with my family was awful. And DH was doing it to be nasty. He thrived on threatening me and making me sick with worry. He was hurt and he wanted to hurt me. It showed me another side of him that I hadn't seen before.

He would also go through my phone any opportunity he got (we have 3 DC so he's been in the house for pick up and drop off).

At that point I began suffering badly with MH issues. The stress and strain of the marriage breakdown and being bullied by my ex plus a relationship that was abusive eventually led me to have a nervous breakdown. At that point I was suffering with undiagnosed bipolar disorder. I became very, very ill for a period of weeks. I functioned enough to look after the DC but one day I came home to find social services on my doorstep. They'd had an anonymous tip-off they told me, so they'd come round to assess the situation. I was flabbergasted as there was no way I needed SS involvement. It was crazy! They went away and nothing more was said.

Whilst this was going on, DH refused to give back his doorkey which left me feeling very vulnerable and he generally bullied and threatened me. And it continues to this day. He has no respect, he will go over my head about things with the DC, he still goes through my phone. He says he doesn't believe a word I say, he is very controlling and he leaves every situation with a threat. Or just storms off. He NEEDS to be in control of everything.

SS became involved again because 'someone' had reported me and it turns out that they thought I was working as an escort!!!! There's been some sort of investigation going on but because the allegation is nonsense and my DC are very much loved and well cared for I've tried not to let it get to me. Until ex-DH said nastily that it was him who had told them that. I honestly could have cried. Due to BP I have anxiety issues and stress makes me ill. I can't be ill though or the children will suffer and it would give SS another reason to be involved.

On Thursday night last week my DC were away so I arranged to meet a friend in the pub. Unbeknown to me my ex-DH was also there with a friend (he lives hours away so it was really unexpected). We said hello pleasantly enough and then we left. Separately. I got back home, my friend and I went into the house, put some music on and sat down and chatted. At one point one of the dogs went into the porch and because they will chew up any shoe they find I followed them in - and got the shock of my life. Ex-DH was standing in the porch, black raincoat on with the hood up, just glaring at me. I asked him wtf he was doing and he said "It's your fault, you left the door open." Friend hadn't pushed it shut properly. He then started ranting and raving about what he'd heard, saying that he knew the truth now, etc., etc. All absolute rubbish and it came across as a bit of an act. He left in the end after arguing with my friend who was defending me against him. I honestly cannot describe the utter contempt ex-DH seems to have for me.

And this weekend things have come to a head. I asked him to wait to pick DC1 up because I had family down and they wanted to see her, he ignored me and went to the school, picked her up and took her. Didn't even text me, ignored my calls and then when I was frantic with worry he texted and said "What? DC1 didn't want to stay." She's young and should not have been put in the position of having to choose. It's making life for her stressful and she gets tearful because she feels the pressure. Ex-DH is oblivious to this and so utterly self-centered that he seems to believe that he can do no wrong.

I've ended up tonight just feeling anxious and tearful. I have no idea where his next 'attack' will come from and I can't trust him with my DC. I can't trust that he will behave in their best interests. I can't relax, I can't concentrate and I have no idea where to go from here. He has this horrible, threatening look in his eyes when he talks to me and I don't know how to cope with him. I don't know where to go from here. I feel cowed in fear and I have no idea how to deal with SS, what he might say in the future, what he might do with the DC. I don't trust him with my DC and that's awful.

Can anyone advise? Am I being stupid about the whole thing? I'm just desperate for advice and guidance. I was so pathetically grateful when my friend defended me against exDH - it showed me that I wasn't over-reacting. I have no one to talk to in RL and no partner so shouldering the strain is hard. I want to keep things amicable, I want to be friendly - if not friends - I want to hand the DC over with confidence but honestly this weekend I have caught myself wondering whether he's planning to commit suicide and take them with him. It's the sort of thing he would do and all the stories in the press recently have scared me. It's got the point where I'm scared if I don't hear from him and yet my adrenaline shoots through the roof when his name flashes up on my phone. He seems hellbent on hurting me and I don't know how to stop him. What can I do????

Sorry this is so long.

OP posts:
BertieBotts · 17/05/2015 23:55

You need to minimise your contact with him too. He doesn't need to be in the house for pick ups and drop offs at all. Get DC ready and waiting for him, you wave them off out the door, he doesn't come in or see a phone, he doesn't even have a chance to talk to you.

You might have a case for handovers to be done at a neutral location, supervised by somebody other than you.

I wasn't really clear on what happened at school that one time, but it might be a good idea for him to pick them up from school if he has a regular weekend thing - one less handover for you to deal with?

BertieBotts · 17/05/2015 23:56

And stop calling him DH - he is anything but dear! Unless it stands for dick head Grin

BertieBotts · 17/05/2015 23:57

XH, twathead, fuckwit, whatever you like, but drop the D! :)

MyNameIsInigoMontoya · 17/05/2015 23:57

What everyone else said really - he is a nasty, stalkerish piece of work and I definitely agree you should contact the police (and also Women's Aid).

A couple of points to add:

  • Not "allowing" you to have a bank account is seriously controlling behaviour and a massive red flag - so please do mention this as part of the abuse too. I bet there were other examples of controlling behaviour too during your time together.
  • He has no right or reason to be allowed access to your house at all - even when picking up or dropping off the children. It is YOUR home now and you have a right to privacy, he has absolutely NO right to be wandering around looking at things or accessing your phone. You can insist that he waits outside - or even arrange for someone else to do handovers so you don't have to see him at all. Or if he keeps up the scary behaviour, you may be able to arrange supervised contact only eventually (at a contact centre) so you don't have to worry about his behaviour with the children....
500Decibels · 18/05/2015 00:07

I can't believe how awful he is! Why does a man like that get to spend time with young children? He sounds unhinged.
Definitely get the police involved. No one should have to put up with this.

Jux · 18/05/2015 00:08

Please call 101, DV Unit.
Then call Women's Aid.
Then find The Freedom Programme near you and call them. If you can't find a Freedom Prog near you, ask your gp if there is an equivalent running near you (or ask Women's Aid).

Talk to people about it. Tell everyone - the more people you tell, the more support and help you are likely to get. See if anyone could be there with you for handovers, or better still, do the handovers for you somewhere away from your home.

ColdTeaAgain · 18/05/2015 00:18

What an absolute pathetic excuse for a man, for a human being!

OP, you have been conditioned to years of emotional and financial abuse. The police would NOT think you were being silly or time wasting.

Number one priority - get your locks changed. Feel more secure in your own home.

Next tell the police everything. He is harrassing and intimidating you. They will not ignore you.

You need to get your life back Flowers

HexBramble · 18/05/2015 05:55

Good morning Chopin.
Feel strong today please, knowing that you have made a brilliant and brave decision to write everything down here. Everyone here is supporting you and saying that you are not to put up with this any longer.

This man, has no right to do this to you.

Remember, first thing, contact emergency locksmith. Does everyone agree that the official line is that Chopin 'lost' her keys? If Bully boy thinks she's starting to stand up to him, might he up the ante and be even more unpleasant?

ovumahead · 18/05/2015 06:18

He is abusing her, so yes, his behaviour may well worsen as a result of her standing up to him.

Chopin if you're struggling to get your head around this, I wouldn't be surprised. But it's time for change - not only for you, but for your kids as well. This man sounds like a terrible role model, tbh he sounds like he has psychopathic traits at the very least, he is remorseless, intimidating, happy to break the law. I wouldn't want him near my kids. This will be hard work but it will be worth it. The police are well trained to handle this stuff. They are very aware if emotional abuse, financial abuse, risk to kids etc. Keep safe. Change the locks, do everything that has been suggested. We are here with you!

Phoenix0x0 · 18/05/2015 06:42

As every other poster has said.

Please call womens aid and the police.

You cannot live like this anymore nor can your children.

The not allowing you to have a bank account and stone walking was abuse.

He is doing this because you had the guts to get away and is now getting a kick out of driving you crazy.

Change the locks.....oops I lost the key (when he knows he may demand to have a copy though).

Get a cheap smart phone on pay as you go (so that you can access email) and only have this out when he is there.

Don't allow him into the house.

Document everything....the more services you engage with (womens aid etc) the quicker it could be to get it to stop.

ScrambledEggAndToast · 18/05/2015 06:54

Why haven't you changed the locks?

HexBramble · 18/05/2015 07:21

As Phoenix said, he may very well demand a key.

"No." Is all you need to tell him. Practice it. How old are the DC? Are they old enough to need keys? Heat very well wait for them to get their key and take a copy off them. You must try and second guess this lunatic and cut him off at each pass.

HexBramble · 18/05/2015 07:22

Heat?

He may

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 18/05/2015 07:28

If you have never accessed help from a DV service it's no wonder your mental health has suffered having to cope with all his shit for years. You really must contact them and tell them everything. You need help and backup! They can advise you on safety planning, legal options etc. you can get him out of the house but you need to know how to donut legally.

Fairy13 · 18/05/2015 07:41

Bloody hell OP.
Definitely go to the police.
When I left my ex he threatened to kill me. I reported it to the police and they were really good.

There is no reason for him to come past your threshold when collecting DC. In fact, I meet XH in a neutral location now. He collects from nursery on the Friday, we meet at a supermarket on the Sunday on his weekends.
He is not allowed to contact me in between times unless it is to confirm collection/drop off.

Definitely lose your keys.

Good luck

Jux · 18/05/2015 08:06

Do you have a back door? You could change the locks both front and back (lost keys excuse), bolt the front and use the back, only giving him a key for the front. Then he can't get in even if you do have to give him a key - and you can delay giving the key for quite a while.

Phoenix0x0 · 18/05/2015 09:00

That's a good idea jux

It would mean that if he used the front door key in front of the OP and it opened the door; he couldn't accuse her of changing the locks again.

However, OP you need to call the police/women's aid today to get support.

ChopinLiszt · 18/05/2015 12:02

I don't know what to do. My anxiety levels are through the roof and yet every time I think about telling someone my brain just shuts down. SS are due to ring today with the outcome of whatever they've been investigating and I am petrified that he will have got to them with more nonsense.

But because I'm the one 'in the wrong' they don't listen to a word I say.

He also hasn't responded to a text message I sent him about next weekend which just fills me with dread.

For those saying change drop off/pick up arrangements - it's impossible. I can't keep him out of the house. If I'm out he just lets himself in. He dictates when, where, why and how he collects/drops off. He will come into the house and go upstairs himself without the DC to get what he wants from their rooms. There's absolutely no respect or privacy. But it's 'his' house too so I can't do anything.

I've also noticed things going missing. A very expensive coat I had that he borrowed sometimes and liked wearing has vanished, though he denies all knowledge. And a diary that my sister bought me and I had written two entries in has also disappeared. He's never physically aggressive, just verbally and intimidating and just generally HORRIBLE.

OP posts:
fuzzywuzzy · 18/05/2015 12:19

can you put a lock on your bedroom door so he cant enter it?

Speak to a solicitor infact print off this thread and show it to women's aid ask them to help you, ring right of women they offer legal advice free over the phone.

abitwrong123 · 18/05/2015 12:39

If you're divorced then there should be an agreement about the house which would give you occupancy surely?

Even if the house is jointly owned if you are the sole occupier he doesn't need keys.

I really really think you need to go to womens aid, or google your local womens services as you will be able to get access to legal advice free through either of them.
You need to do this as their legal advisors will be more able to give you specific advice and will be used to dealing with men like this.

I divorced an incredibly abusive man and the legal advice I got through my local womens service was absolutely crucial in making sure my ex husband didn't manage to continue to abuse my child and I. The divorce solicitor I had was really not well versed in dealing with the situation and if I had followed her advice i would have ended up in a very sticky situation.

You need to keep a diary of events. Keep it at work or find a very good hiding place for it, this will back up your case. So things like 15.052015 - found ex-husband hiding in the porch, was verbally abusive, my friend X was a witness etc etc.

bendybrickpumpkinpatch · 18/05/2015 12:42

CHANGE THE LOCKS !!!!!!!

Why havent you done this ?

tipsytrifle · 18/05/2015 13:27

Chopin you absolutely would be wise to follow abitwrong's advice. This is an urgent ongoing crisis really. The pressure must be unbearable. It is an abusive situation of an extreme nature and you need RL help in changing the way all of this operates. Please get that help.

bendy locks have not been changed (yet) because the property is jointly owned and there are legalities involved. This is a powder keg of a situation and the balance of safety is worth bearing in mind. Before going to war a strategic plan should be made, yes?

Phoenix0x0 · 18/05/2015 13:54

Please call the police/women's aid!

He is still abusing you and controlling your entire life.

Could you afford to move? Or better still go to a women's refuge.

You also need to contact your solicitor ASAP and document everything.

You say you are scared of SS, I would be seeking their help to stop this.

pocketsaviour · 18/05/2015 15:29

Please call Women's Aid, OP. Do this today. The lines are quieter after 7pm.

You need urgent legal advice to get this horrible abuser out of your life.

I know this must feel overwhelming right now as there are so many things to do, and he has been controlling you for so long.

He is not the boss of you. You have split up. He does not have a right to enter your home, to go through your belongings, to look at your phone. He is breaking the law by removing your belongings.

I know he has probably been intimidating you for years and telling you that nobody will believe you and that he has a big important job and you'll never win. Right? WRONG. Call Women's Aid. They will help you. They have PLENTY of experience dealing with power-hungry narcissists like this, believe me.

BertieBotts · 18/05/2015 15:43

I know that the feeling of telling somebody is really paralysing. Could you ask your friend for moral support, the one who was there when he came in? (Now you say he has a key, I wouldn't be sure that she left the door open, either.)

If you call women's aid, they won't force you to press charges or tell you what to do.

SS can help you. I know it feels like they are not on your side right now - but they won't be happy to find that somebody has wasted their time (and that is not you!!)

He is still abusing you. It's not his house any more, he doesn't live there.

What would help you feel more able to reach out? Even if it's impossible? Tell us what you need.

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