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Please - I desperately need help. A truly horrible situation

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ChopinLiszt · 17/05/2015 21:55

I've nc for this. I've posted one or two threads recently and I'm worried about being outed.

I've been plucking up the courage to post this for such a long time but it feels like when I start to talk about it, the floodgates might open and I'm only coping at the moment by blocking most of it out.

Basically, ex-DH and I separated two and half years ago. I left him and we both went into other relationships. About six months into mine DH decided to be nasty and threatened constantly to spread lies and rumours about me. He specifically said he was going to contact my then partner and tell him all manner of horrible, personal things about me; some true and some not. DH also rang round my family and told them I was working as an escort (I was not, nor have I ever, I think it was the most damaging thing he could come up with). The absolute embarrassment and shame of having to discuss this with my family was awful. And DH was doing it to be nasty. He thrived on threatening me and making me sick with worry. He was hurt and he wanted to hurt me. It showed me another side of him that I hadn't seen before.

He would also go through my phone any opportunity he got (we have 3 DC so he's been in the house for pick up and drop off).

At that point I began suffering badly with MH issues. The stress and strain of the marriage breakdown and being bullied by my ex plus a relationship that was abusive eventually led me to have a nervous breakdown. At that point I was suffering with undiagnosed bipolar disorder. I became very, very ill for a period of weeks. I functioned enough to look after the DC but one day I came home to find social services on my doorstep. They'd had an anonymous tip-off they told me, so they'd come round to assess the situation. I was flabbergasted as there was no way I needed SS involvement. It was crazy! They went away and nothing more was said.

Whilst this was going on, DH refused to give back his doorkey which left me feeling very vulnerable and he generally bullied and threatened me. And it continues to this day. He has no respect, he will go over my head about things with the DC, he still goes through my phone. He says he doesn't believe a word I say, he is very controlling and he leaves every situation with a threat. Or just storms off. He NEEDS to be in control of everything.

SS became involved again because 'someone' had reported me and it turns out that they thought I was working as an escort!!!! There's been some sort of investigation going on but because the allegation is nonsense and my DC are very much loved and well cared for I've tried not to let it get to me. Until ex-DH said nastily that it was him who had told them that. I honestly could have cried. Due to BP I have anxiety issues and stress makes me ill. I can't be ill though or the children will suffer and it would give SS another reason to be involved.

On Thursday night last week my DC were away so I arranged to meet a friend in the pub. Unbeknown to me my ex-DH was also there with a friend (he lives hours away so it was really unexpected). We said hello pleasantly enough and then we left. Separately. I got back home, my friend and I went into the house, put some music on and sat down and chatted. At one point one of the dogs went into the porch and because they will chew up any shoe they find I followed them in - and got the shock of my life. Ex-DH was standing in the porch, black raincoat on with the hood up, just glaring at me. I asked him wtf he was doing and he said "It's your fault, you left the door open." Friend hadn't pushed it shut properly. He then started ranting and raving about what he'd heard, saying that he knew the truth now, etc., etc. All absolute rubbish and it came across as a bit of an act. He left in the end after arguing with my friend who was defending me against him. I honestly cannot describe the utter contempt ex-DH seems to have for me.

And this weekend things have come to a head. I asked him to wait to pick DC1 up because I had family down and they wanted to see her, he ignored me and went to the school, picked her up and took her. Didn't even text me, ignored my calls and then when I was frantic with worry he texted and said "What? DC1 didn't want to stay." She's young and should not have been put in the position of having to choose. It's making life for her stressful and she gets tearful because she feels the pressure. Ex-DH is oblivious to this and so utterly self-centered that he seems to believe that he can do no wrong.

I've ended up tonight just feeling anxious and tearful. I have no idea where his next 'attack' will come from and I can't trust him with my DC. I can't trust that he will behave in their best interests. I can't relax, I can't concentrate and I have no idea where to go from here. He has this horrible, threatening look in his eyes when he talks to me and I don't know how to cope with him. I don't know where to go from here. I feel cowed in fear and I have no idea how to deal with SS, what he might say in the future, what he might do with the DC. I don't trust him with my DC and that's awful.

Can anyone advise? Am I being stupid about the whole thing? I'm just desperate for advice and guidance. I was so pathetically grateful when my friend defended me against exDH - it showed me that I wasn't over-reacting. I have no one to talk to in RL and no partner so shouldering the strain is hard. I want to keep things amicable, I want to be friendly - if not friends - I want to hand the DC over with confidence but honestly this weekend I have caught myself wondering whether he's planning to commit suicide and take them with him. It's the sort of thing he would do and all the stories in the press recently have scared me. It's got the point where I'm scared if I don't hear from him and yet my adrenaline shoots through the roof when his name flashes up on my phone. He seems hellbent on hurting me and I don't know how to stop him. What can I do????

Sorry this is so long.

OP posts:
mix56 · 24/05/2015 16:55

I am wondering how he gets hold of your phone? if you leave it on the table, or does he go thru your bag ?. You must change the PIN on it, & not give it to the children, if you you can't put it in a place where he can't get it, the same for the keys, once he realises that you have changed the locks, he will be furious, & probably try & lift them to get a copy. DO NOT leave them in the door, put them somewhere where only YOU, not the kids, know, that way if he asks them, they won't know.
You can also get a non-mol order.
This is horrific emotional abuse, & you have been bullied for so long that you don't see how to fight back. but you can with help.
As for your mother, unspeakable, but she was probably manipulative too.

thewomaninwhitefluffybunnyears · 24/05/2015 20:59

Another one popping in to see how you are doing. I am so sorry to hear of your Mum's reaction. I actually have no words to her response. You have so many people rooting for you here, truly. You know that you are doing the right thing.

springydaffs · 24/05/2015 21:48

I'm a picket freak - a Virgo trait, apparently Hmm - bcs I have to have my phone e-cig and lipstick on my bod somewhere. Put it in your pocket, don't use it if he's there.

Mind, don't be in his presence. There is no reason to be.

He has so trashed your boundaries you have lost a sense of where they begin and end. Letting himself into your house when he pleases/roaming about your house at will/picking up your phone as though it belongs to him are all physical manifestations of not only disregarding your boundaries but appropriating them as his; that you belong to him, you are his property to do with as HE chooses.

Well, he's wrong! You DONT belong to him - you never have. You are a separate person. Even if you were happily married you are still separate people.

I appreciate that setting boundaries is a challenge bcs you are afraid of his vindictive reaction - understandable. For the time being - ie until you can build an effective case by collecting evidence - it's enough to note to yourself what is yours, your boundaries, what belongs to you, that he has no right to appropriate.

springydaffs · 24/05/2015 21:48

*pocket freak ffs

Jux · 24/05/2015 22:26

Write everything down. Get as much in writing (text, email) from him as you can.

Well done getting those texts from him. Keep everything.

TendonQueen · 24/05/2015 22:39

mix has made a very good point about the keys and phone. Hide them well. I would also consider having a 'decoy' set of keys around.

Your mother is just a pathetic human being. If she can't support her own child in this situation she is completely messed up. Sadly it does happen. Don't tell her any details of the steps you are taking in case she passes them on to him. Good luck Flowers

AuntieDee · 25/05/2015 00:17

Hope you have had a stress free day today - been thinking about you Flowers

AmIbeingTreasonable · 25/05/2015 00:41

I've read your whole thread and I'm absolutely horrified. You've had great advice, I'd just like to add perhaps set yourself up an extra gmail address and forward a copy of all his emails and texts to it. Keep that address for that purpose so if your evidence somehow "get's lost" you'll always have a backup.

Thinking of you xx

mix56 · 25/05/2015 08:01

Also, "the watching"; So he drives for miles to to spy on you.
In the immediate instance, either draw the curtains. or if you don't have any, get "voile" in Ikea, (incredible cheap).
alternatively, try & catch him at it, & photograph him looking in, this will record the time, which would be good for any legal action.

BitOutOfPractice · 25/05/2015 08:20

Oh Chopin I've just caught up with this.

It's amazing isn't it, that these men can sustain such anger over such a long time period. The amount of emotional energy it must take to keep this going is just mind blowing.

You are doing so well

SupSlick · 26/05/2015 17:51

Just another post to say you are acting remarkably, and you are very brave.

I was in a situation like this, however with my dad rather than an ex husband, & it may be refreshing for you to look at the situation as if it wasn't your ex, but rather someone you had just met at the pub one night, or someone you worked with once who was behaving like this. You would not tolerate it, it would be harassment. Ex or not, father to your kids or not, the behaviour is still the same & it's still not right.

You're taking all the right steps to protect you & your children & I'll watch this thread hoping for the outcome you deserve.

ovumahead · 29/05/2015 14:05

How are you getting on, OP?

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