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Please - I desperately need help. A truly horrible situation

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ChopinLiszt · 17/05/2015 21:55

I've nc for this. I've posted one or two threads recently and I'm worried about being outed.

I've been plucking up the courage to post this for such a long time but it feels like when I start to talk about it, the floodgates might open and I'm only coping at the moment by blocking most of it out.

Basically, ex-DH and I separated two and half years ago. I left him and we both went into other relationships. About six months into mine DH decided to be nasty and threatened constantly to spread lies and rumours about me. He specifically said he was going to contact my then partner and tell him all manner of horrible, personal things about me; some true and some not. DH also rang round my family and told them I was working as an escort (I was not, nor have I ever, I think it was the most damaging thing he could come up with). The absolute embarrassment and shame of having to discuss this with my family was awful. And DH was doing it to be nasty. He thrived on threatening me and making me sick with worry. He was hurt and he wanted to hurt me. It showed me another side of him that I hadn't seen before.

He would also go through my phone any opportunity he got (we have 3 DC so he's been in the house for pick up and drop off).

At that point I began suffering badly with MH issues. The stress and strain of the marriage breakdown and being bullied by my ex plus a relationship that was abusive eventually led me to have a nervous breakdown. At that point I was suffering with undiagnosed bipolar disorder. I became very, very ill for a period of weeks. I functioned enough to look after the DC but one day I came home to find social services on my doorstep. They'd had an anonymous tip-off they told me, so they'd come round to assess the situation. I was flabbergasted as there was no way I needed SS involvement. It was crazy! They went away and nothing more was said.

Whilst this was going on, DH refused to give back his doorkey which left me feeling very vulnerable and he generally bullied and threatened me. And it continues to this day. He has no respect, he will go over my head about things with the DC, he still goes through my phone. He says he doesn't believe a word I say, he is very controlling and he leaves every situation with a threat. Or just storms off. He NEEDS to be in control of everything.

SS became involved again because 'someone' had reported me and it turns out that they thought I was working as an escort!!!! There's been some sort of investigation going on but because the allegation is nonsense and my DC are very much loved and well cared for I've tried not to let it get to me. Until ex-DH said nastily that it was him who had told them that. I honestly could have cried. Due to BP I have anxiety issues and stress makes me ill. I can't be ill though or the children will suffer and it would give SS another reason to be involved.

On Thursday night last week my DC were away so I arranged to meet a friend in the pub. Unbeknown to me my ex-DH was also there with a friend (he lives hours away so it was really unexpected). We said hello pleasantly enough and then we left. Separately. I got back home, my friend and I went into the house, put some music on and sat down and chatted. At one point one of the dogs went into the porch and because they will chew up any shoe they find I followed them in - and got the shock of my life. Ex-DH was standing in the porch, black raincoat on with the hood up, just glaring at me. I asked him wtf he was doing and he said "It's your fault, you left the door open." Friend hadn't pushed it shut properly. He then started ranting and raving about what he'd heard, saying that he knew the truth now, etc., etc. All absolute rubbish and it came across as a bit of an act. He left in the end after arguing with my friend who was defending me against him. I honestly cannot describe the utter contempt ex-DH seems to have for me.

And this weekend things have come to a head. I asked him to wait to pick DC1 up because I had family down and they wanted to see her, he ignored me and went to the school, picked her up and took her. Didn't even text me, ignored my calls and then when I was frantic with worry he texted and said "What? DC1 didn't want to stay." She's young and should not have been put in the position of having to choose. It's making life for her stressful and she gets tearful because she feels the pressure. Ex-DH is oblivious to this and so utterly self-centered that he seems to believe that he can do no wrong.

I've ended up tonight just feeling anxious and tearful. I have no idea where his next 'attack' will come from and I can't trust him with my DC. I can't trust that he will behave in their best interests. I can't relax, I can't concentrate and I have no idea where to go from here. He has this horrible, threatening look in his eyes when he talks to me and I don't know how to cope with him. I don't know where to go from here. I feel cowed in fear and I have no idea how to deal with SS, what he might say in the future, what he might do with the DC. I don't trust him with my DC and that's awful.

Can anyone advise? Am I being stupid about the whole thing? I'm just desperate for advice and guidance. I was so pathetically grateful when my friend defended me against exDH - it showed me that I wasn't over-reacting. I have no one to talk to in RL and no partner so shouldering the strain is hard. I want to keep things amicable, I want to be friendly - if not friends - I want to hand the DC over with confidence but honestly this weekend I have caught myself wondering whether he's planning to commit suicide and take them with him. It's the sort of thing he would do and all the stories in the press recently have scared me. It's got the point where I'm scared if I don't hear from him and yet my adrenaline shoots through the roof when his name flashes up on my phone. He seems hellbent on hurting me and I don't know how to stop him. What can I do????

Sorry this is so long.

OP posts:
springydaffs · 21/05/2015 09:14

Oh god, Chopin - same here. Practically exactly the same story re family.

I am NC with my family now - took a while but I finally got there. I see my mum bcs she's ancient and v frail but I keep her at arm's length. She still bleats about 'poor' ex now and again, mainly bcs he's dead shame! . I cut her off/walk away.

Dust yourself off - your mother is the fucked one here. Painful Sad

springydaffs · 21/05/2015 09:17

I did say, effectively, him or me - my family chose him (hands down!); my mum chose me but very reluctantly.

Toxic family, Chopin xx

Jux · 21/05/2015 11:20

No contact or low contact, Chopin. You don't need that dreadful woman.

You are brave, and resourceful. Keep your chin up, you have nothing to be ashamed or embarrassed about, and KOKO.

GP, ncdv, WA, CAB, SHL! Talk to as many people as you can and give them everything. Log everything, every little bit of nastiness, any lies he tells your family or children, everything. Date and time if you can. Also, historical things. Get as full as record as you can.

ChooChooLaverne · 21/05/2015 11:46

Chopin - sorry to hear how upset that made you. I think you've been so strong to break away from your abusive ex - now it's time to break away from her too.

She laid the groundwork for you to end up in an abusive relationship. I would try and make the mental shift that she's not on your team. You only need people in your life who are on your side - she doesn't deserve the privilege to be a part of your life.

You are incredibly brave to have got away from your ex. Every step you take with the support of other people will get you further away and into a better new life.

Have you had counselling? If not I would definitely recommend looking into it when you have time. None of this is your fault.

tipsytrifle · 21/05/2015 12:26

My mother too was horrific. I recall "divorcing" her first when I was about 5. It never got much better. Whole family was toxic but her loathing of me was the driving factor. I came to understand, decades later after leaving them all for good when I went to uni, what drove her to declare she had cursed me; that I wasn't good enough for any man, never mind the abusive one I thought was my saviour from it all. Ha! Some families are a sick parody of the ideal, hey?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 21/05/2015 12:30

You are very brave OP. I must be naive I am dismayed this kind of personality could be a magistrate. The aggression and spite is shocking.

Very glad the police officers were so helpful.

I don't know how your mother could adopt such a "We're all right Jack" attitude towards this bully. It's ridiculous seizing on your abusive H's ambitions and not responding to the severity of your situation.

I hope SS will see his malicious allegations are completely unfounded.

Flowers
DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 21/05/2015 12:31

Sorry, exH, obviously.

trackrBird · 21/05/2015 14:34

I'm so sorry Chopin. I can't even imagine the thought processes there: it really beggars belief.
And if your ex now has less chance of being a judge, that would do society the greatest service. That's all I can say.
Take care Brew

Jux · 21/05/2015 14:46

Chopin, you are not the only one whose mother is ghastly www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2363055-Awful-email-from-my-DM?msgid=54457125

I don't know if that helps you at all. I am disgusted by these 'mothers' who let their children down so badly and behave so horribly and unsupportively. I ambeginning to see that my mum was similar, though she had a LOT of positives too, which has made it hard to see the negatives. I do need to though, so I can learn not to follow her steps.

pocketsaviour · 21/05/2015 15:26

Sorry your mum's reaction was so crap.

Remember her attitude is about her, not you. She would rather side with an abusive but superficially charming man, over her own daughter, and I could write loads here about internalised misogyny and how she's rewarded by the patriarchy for complying, but basically it doesn't matter why she does it - she's a toxic person.

Sadly there are loads of them about. My rubbish mother worshipped the ground my ex walked on. She once told me I should start putting his needs ahead of my son's, otherwise I ran the risk of losing him. Hmm

rumbleinthrjungle · 21/05/2015 16:11

Oh darling xxx. I am sorry, that is not what you need right now. Unfortunately you may have now identified the person who taught you how to be placating to abusive fuckwits.

What she has told you is so utterly ridiculously crap it would be laughable if it wasn't for the horrible time you're having this week.

You're stronger than she is. You are not putting up with this crap, and good for you. You left. Thanks

AcrossthePond55 · 22/05/2015 02:23

You are doing so well! You've already made some necessary steps to become more secure and safer in your home! Wonderful.

You're right on about him not leaving messages. So, can you insist that any communication be via email or text? If nothing else, it will force him to be civil to you. I don't think there's any 'law' that says that you must speak to him, just that there must be some way to communicate about the children.

Your mother is truly beyond words! As hard as it may be for you to see it, you are so much better than she is and you do NOT need her. You may feel alone right now, but MN is here and you will begin to come out of your shell and make friends who will have your back.

I don't know about there, but where I live officers of the court (lawyers, judges, advocates) are held to an even higher standard of behaviour than we 'civilians' are. Although you may not have the ammunition now, do keep a record of his antics with a view to reporting him to whoever governs magistrates.

TandemFlux · 22/05/2015 03:05

Your mother is disgusting! Fancy not supporting your DD when exposed to such awful behaviour. It would be enough for me to go almost completely NC with her and only take strength from people who had their head screwed on properly.

ColdTeaAgain · 22/05/2015 08:27

Classic tactic of abusive partners to get family on their side to isolate you even further.

If she is going to be like that then don't involve her any further in any if this. I would be keeping my distance from her for the forseeable future. You have made amazing steps to defend yourself from him and she will only dent your confidence and make you doubt yourself.

If you need to talk, talk here, we all support you every step of the way Flowers

BettyCatKitten · 22/05/2015 08:42

Your DM response is unbelievable!
No point in looking for support from her. Have you got some good friends to support you? If I were you I wouldn't bother with your mumSad

HexBramble · 23/05/2015 09:45

Chopin you've already taken a massive and brave steps. No doubt you need time to gather your thoughts. Your Mums response is a spectacular disappointment. Start distancing.

We are here for you and will take things at your pace. Let us know how you are, my lovely.

ChopinLiszt · 23/05/2015 20:23

I'm ok. He knows something is up from my changed attitude.

I've also managed to get some texts out of him where he admitted reporting me as an escort. I've then challenged that and he skirts the issue. So hopefully that's a bit of proof.

Thank you for the continued support everyone

OP posts:
Phoenix0x0 · 23/05/2015 20:37

Glad you posted again choppin as I was worried about you.

Keep strong.

Flowers
notapizzaeater · 23/05/2015 20:48

Keep strong, you are In the right xx

HexBramble · 23/05/2015 21:11

Strength and light to you Chopin.
We are here for whenever you need us. You must play the long game now so every small change you make is another brick in your defensive wall. Evidence is good.
KOKO.

ColdTeaAgain · 23/05/2015 23:23

Glad you are ok Chopin.

Make sure you keep those texts safe! Is it worth ringing 101 and seeing if they would make note of them in addition to the info you have already given them?

rumbleinthrjungle · 24/05/2015 09:07

Well done Chopin! Definitely the texts help. Hang in there.

ovumahead · 24/05/2015 09:24

You're doing great! Things are already so different from this time last week. Well done. I'd call SS and let them know about the texts, see what they want you to do with them.

BertieBotts · 24/05/2015 12:42

Just popping in to say hello :) Texts are good. Hope you're having a nice weekend, as nice as it can be, anyway!

Dontunderstand01 · 24/05/2015 15:43

Just read the whoke thread. Firstly, you are stronger and braver than you think. Secondly, please keep posting and talking as it will help nit only you but others too.

As for your 'd'm? No words, or rather no nice ones.