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HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on ...part 7

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Izzie595 · 02/05/2015 07:36

Nobody understands the fully devastating impact of the ending of a marriage unless and until they experience it themselves.

Welcome to Hobbit's Bar. Thread number 7.

This is the place where we meet to let it all out, to share experiences, to get support, and maybe give support if and when we feel able. And also to sometimes have a good laugh about things, because Hell, we've earned the right to laugh!

The bar is owned by Hobbit. She is adorable, kind, and bonkers. And lazy. So we take turns in running the bar for her ladyship.

I'm the latest proprietor of the bar. Izzie Age 54. Married 30 years. Two young adult sons living with me. Husband left to live with OW on Halloween last year. Very appropriate! No moves towards divorce or financial settlement at present. I started posting my own stuff on MN at the start of the year. Best thing I ever did. Well, I've had better successes in life, but you get my point, yes? I've been through the whole range of emotions, backwards, forwards, round and round: it's not a linear process by any means. And it does seem common to have a huge crash at 4 to 6 months on. Today I'm meh. Mostly.

There are a range of experiences in the Bar, generally at any one time. Examples: the early stages of separation; negotiating; legal matters; abuse in all forms; feeling stronger; having a major crash again; dealing with fuckwittery from the exes; financial worries; issues involving both young and adult children; moving towards the Mecca that is "meh". Basically, the whole works. Believe me, whatever you are currently experiencing, you are not alone.

My advice to any newbies: just jump in, but if you have the time and inclination, try reading all of the threads. You will see real women experiencing their bleakest moments, their progress, their dips, their innermost thoughts.

Rules of The Bar

  1. Don't ask to join just come in.
  2. The phrase Party Pooper is banned. We may be having a good old giggle sometimes but someone in need must interrupt whatever is going on. We can't all be in sync, but someone in need ALWAYS takes priority.
  3. You are not obliged to give advice, reply to any posts, there are no expectations of you. Take what you want from the thread.

And just to ease you in, here are a few things you may wish to know:

  1. An Izzietini is the bar drink.
  2. A number 6 refers to rule number 6 in Hobbit's Twunts list. Reasons why they do things. Because they are....... erm, no, the answer is not "misguided".
  3. Mother, WellWhoKnew or WWK. Recently divorced, previous proprietor of the Bar and a legend of MN to those who followed her own threads. Also a legend on here for her straightforward advice. And keeps us in order.
  4. Some of the posters also have their own threads. I hope they will do a link for you.
  5. There's a bad case of exclamationitis on here. Occurs when trying to put in a comma on ipad, but it auto corrects to an exclamation mark. So if you post and get a dodgy comment back, eg "Have you thought about counselling! sounds like you need help!".....please believe us that we are not sarky cows. Because the rule of exclamationitis is that we only spot it after we have posted!
  6. Our sayings are Shit, this is hard and KOKO, keep on keeping on.
  7. Our theme tune to keep us going, is below.
  8. Jess is our sausage snuffling mascot. Owned by Hobbit, she pops up every now and again to entertain us and to dispense her own brand of advice. She says it as it is. She is currently busy knitting herself some new hats.

At the start of the year Fontella posted this on the first thread:

"Can I just say as more of a reader rather than a participant on this thread (I got shot of my lying, conniving, controlling ex 10 years ago) that this is fast turning into my favourite thread. Lots of powerful, courageous and funny (in a good way) women all coming together and supporting each other through an incredibly painful time. You are all fabulous!"

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

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Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 17:17

according I'm going to gradually collect the links and put them on one page, then Spreadsheetbobs can put them onto the next thread. If she hasn't already collated them , of course Smile

More Abba......I'll get me coat!

Actually we do need a song for today. Do you want to post something, just something to brighten us up?

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Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 17:31

Here is Jess again thinking about Summer.

And love to Hobbit xx

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bobs123 · 03/05/2015 17:32

sakura nettles are really good for you - iron, vits A & C (I think) potassium, calcium - even some protein. Just don't cook any that are due to/have flowered. They also make great home made fertiliser to make things flower or fruit like tomatoes when soaked in water for a month or so - smelly though! I'd be all for living off the land if i needed to Smile

Ali if he isn't paying child maintenance this needs to be sorted asap. I don't think you can claim back payments via the CMS (CSA). simply email him asking him to commence maintenance payments by standing order within the next 14 days (presuming he has your bank details). Otherwise you will seek help from the CMS direct. You can work out how much it is using the online calculator if know how much he gets paid.

Re breakdown cover, I found using comparison websites very helpful as the AA is really expensive.

AccordingtoMe · 03/05/2015 18:09

Izzie going to get out my rock chick side now, two of my most favourite bands ever. Seen both live, this is the most excellent mash up between them I have ever seen.

"Its times like these you learn to live again"

AccordingtoMe · 03/05/2015 18:14

and shhhh... forget Poldark, give me Dave Grohl anytime anywhere anyhow.. please!

AccordingtoMe · 03/05/2015 18:17

^I am a new day rising
I'm a brand new sky
to hang the stars upon tonight
I am a little divided
do I stay or run away
and leave it all behind?

Frizzybear · 03/05/2015 18:24

hello to you all, hope your all getting through the weekend, OH took kids out all afternoon, he looks so ill, hope all of this shit has a purpose, because I'm struggling to see any at the moment, my lovely sister and her husband redecorated my bathroom yesterday, it looks so lovely, he walked in and looked and instantly welled up, saying I'm so sorry etc etc, felt quite angry at times the last few days, hope it continues, haven't cried today which I'm chuffed aboutHmm it's been good for my soul to see him look so crap and that he is suffering, not sure what kind of person that makes me really, I've been a nurse for 20 years, which is also a good reason I'm off sick at the moment Blush can't look after myself properly let alone those ( apart from my DCs) that need me, I love what I do but I can't stretch myself that far yet, why he has done this I'll never know, but my family and your help have been what's pushing me through everyday, love the bones of all of you
izzie Thankyou for the pm only saw this morning, very much appreciated WinkFlowers

Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 18:44

According that's a great mash up. And I just love Sweet Child Of Mine, a favourite.

Dave Grohl, nah, doesn't do it at all for me.

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iwashappy · 03/05/2015 18:46

One of my break up songs I have lots :

Crying In The Rain - Everly Brothers. A-ha sung it as well. Hope to "walk in the sun" again one day obviously not today as it's raining

iwashappy · 03/05/2015 18:49

Sorry Izzie, but Sid likes Guns 'N' Roses and Abba. Bit eclectic. Agree with him on Abba.

Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 18:55

frizzy I just went back to read your earlier posts. Christ, he is a mess. So, I'm right that there is no OW? And this appears to be some sort of depression?

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Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 19:00

iwas strange you should mention that. Because I remember you told me he had an eclectic taste in music. And that he also looks like someone who eats beans in a commune? I always forget that little gem. Well, I happen to know that According, I'm sure it's her, wants to go travelling at some stage. And she likes Guns 'N' Roses and Abba too. also has dodgy taste in men, see Dave Grolsch

Anyway, I'm far too busy running a bar nowadays.....

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iwashappy · 03/05/2015 19:09

Izzie my friend said that Sid looks like he eats seeds in a commune. I do recall that According mentioned something about a commune and I meant to comment. According if you fancy going round Europe on the back of a motorbike listening to Guns 'N' Roses, Abba, AC/DC, Bon Jovi and The Eagles while eating seeds Sid may be your man...

iwashappy · 03/05/2015 19:16

Hello Frizzy well done on not crying so far today, one more small step. Lovely that your sister and her husband have redecorated your bathroom for you. Family support does help.

I don't mean this in a nasty way but I am pleased that your separation has affected your husband and that he is feeling the strain for having put you through this. I wonder if he thinks it is worth it. He's not really given you a proper reason has he. KOKO sweetheart. Flowers

Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 19:17

iwas Grin

Break up song, this was one from my youth. Not for now, it's far too good a song to waste on him. Looked at the words as just played it. They are very relevant to some on here.

I have to say I do have a bit of a thing for Phil Collins, when he has hardly any hair. I must be developing a thing for slapheads. The ex has a full head of hair. Phil, yes he's played the victim re his first marriage. But I will overlook it in a fantasy man

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F9UKWk7Y4Q

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iwashappy · 03/05/2015 19:18

According I take that back actually as I like you. I will leave Sid for Izzie Grin

Frizzybear · 03/05/2015 19:20

izzie we have had so much to deal with, loss of business, house, his dad, accident the list goes on and on, BUT we got through it all, together, never once doubted his love for me, but he's been slowly detaching for last 18 months and hurt me like I would never believe, we were always the couple that others wanted to be, no other reason apart from the love we had and respect for each other, this is why everyone is in meltdown now, no one can understand, when I say he looks ill, he looks desperate, guilt I'm sure, God I hate him right now, what a selfish bastard, want him to hurt every second of the day, sounding like a loon now, love him hate him love him hate him, Well that's what He's done to me since September, hope it grabs him by the scrote and eats him aliveHmm just like to point out I have had a little sainsburys cava and it feels good ( for one night only) Grin

iwashappy · 03/05/2015 19:25

Izzie yes quite an apt song. Phil Collins though! May be you would like Sid after all

"I will leave Sid for Izzie"!!! Think I should have worded that better, don't worry I've already left Sid and I haven't got the hots for you Izzie!!

Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 19:29

frizzy I can relate to all of those feelings in the past. They do start to fade. And yes there's nothing wrong with alcohol on occasion.

iwas

A word please

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iwashappy · 03/05/2015 19:36

Izzie if you're doing a Barbara Windsor impression then Sid is definitely up your street. didn't think that association through did you! [grins]

Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 19:43

iwas omg I certainly didn't!

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Izzie595 · 03/05/2015 19:46

Well everyone, it's Sunday and it's really good TV tonight for onceGrin

I'm going to watch the Sheridan Smith thing and watch the war series another time. Actually I will probably watch 10 mins of the Sheridan Smith thing and fall asleep, as I always doSad

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Frizzybear · 03/05/2015 19:47

iwas never had a reason really, just " I don't love you anymore" never been a doormat till I was trying to save it all, always been the fiery one really, always laughed and cried together, always just been our rock really, but he says it's done and I have to deal with that, still so shocked, never ever thought he would leave me, let alone his children, he's like this weird shell, I can see him but he's just not there xxx

bobs123 · 03/05/2015 19:50

Izzie haha Grin

iwashappy · 03/05/2015 19:53

Izzie It made me laugh though! Clever link.

Poldark has finished, it is not good on TV tonight!