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3rd letter from my in laws!!!! omfg!!!

372 replies

inmyshoos · 01/05/2015 14:59

For anyone who might remember my previous posts from my fil I wanted to share the 3rd which arrived today!!! I think i might explode if i dont share it with someone!!

Dear shoos and dhofshoos,
I wrote to you on 10/2/2015 asking you to detail what you consider the problems are between the four of us; and again on the 25/3/2015 asking you both if you wished to be involved in a number of family events that will be happening this year, and also asking you to consider allowing the dc to be included in these family occasions. To date i have received no reply.
Therefore not having received the courtesy of replies to my letters, I can only assume that you both wish to sever all ties with us.
However our door will remain open, but, remember, the longer the door remains open the colder the house becomes.
There are no winners in this situation, only losers. There are losses in the short term and lisses in the long term.
I hope this finds you both well and that your futures are secure.
Regards fil/dad
P.s we will be passing through your area on return from a holiday on the 20th may if you would like to meet us for something to eat?
Pps Give the dc our love.

OMG please someone hit me with a stick! I don't know if i want to laugh or cry!!!

OP posts:
magoria · 04/05/2015 10:14

I am the other way shirleybasseys someone can leave all their money to a cat's charity if they threaten to cut me out unless I dance their tune how they want.

Money isn't worth that.

beezlebop · 04/05/2015 10:17

With you magoria on that!

CamelHump · 04/05/2015 10:17

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beezlebop · 04/05/2015 10:20

Someone thinking towards some form of legal action? Seems like he's creating a paper trail, so that when he demands to see dgc he can wave his letters and say "we tried!".

CamelHump · 04/05/2015 10:27

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Roonerspism · 04/05/2015 10:29

I don't know the backstory... But they don't actually sound unreasonable to me! Sound like they want to reconcile...

Meerka · 04/05/2015 10:32

I suspect they are deeply unhappy people. It's hard to imagine how you can be healthy when you act towards your son in a way that leads him to not want to have any contact with you, and your idea of conflict resolution is to sit down with your DIL and tell her she's dreadful. Plus the weirdness of that letter. People who have unhealthy relationships are rarely happy ...

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/05/2015 10:34

Yeah coz any normal parent whose kid hasn't talked to them for a couple of months would respond with- the door is open - but only for a bit - and you better be ready to get nothing from us.

Absolutely normal loving parental response there...

CamelHump · 04/05/2015 10:38

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Tequilashotsfor1 · 04/05/2015 10:48

shirly I don't think they are arsed about any money from their will.

Grim

ptumbi · 04/05/2015 11:15

Legal action, Beez? Grandparents have NO right of access to grandchildren in law.

flippinada · 04/05/2015 11:31

Yes, GP don't have any right of access to their GC so if they were planning that it will get precisely nowhere, and any solicitor will tell them so. I can't imagine they would though as they don't seem interested in their GC by shoos and her DH.

They seem to be a very odd and chilly pair.

As PP have said, disinheritance is infinitely preferable than having with people like this.

flippinada · 04/05/2015 11:31

*than having to deal with people like this.

GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/05/2015 12:41

Unless UKIP get In.Their manifesto includes an automatic right to visits for grandparents unless you can satisfy a court that access shouldn't be allowed.

flippinada · 04/05/2015 13:06

I sincerely doubt UKIP are going to be forming a government. Even if they get a few seats and form part if a coalition government they are not going to be in a position to start enacting legislation.

So I don't think OP had anything to be concerned about on that basis

GiddyOnZackHunt · 04/05/2015 13:23

Probably not ada but it's in there and the idea could get purchase.

flippinada · 04/05/2015 13:26

Well yes there is always the possibility in the future.

But I don't think it's something the OP needs to be worrying about; is not an immediate concern and she has enough on her plate.

Jux · 04/05/2015 13:51

^My dear son, I know that as parents we have been a disaster, have made big mistakes and your life, as a result, has been much diminished. I know we have let you down badly many times. Apologies seem small beer in a situation like this, after a lifetime of being let down and disappointed, but for what it is worth, I am so so so sorry.

I do not know if it is possible for us to find a way to become, if not family, perhaps friends eventually, but maybe for now at least in contact? I miss you so much and my heart would be so gladdened if only a text from you were to come once or twice a year.^

In the OP's situation that's a letter I would reply (cautiously) to. I wouldn't reply to the one she actually received.

DayLillie · 04/05/2015 15:21

I recognise the following from my family in the OP's situation:

Father who expresses his love for the wife by giving her what she wants unconditionally - family, money etc. He leaves the personal relations to her, and sees things from her perspective and backs up her all decisions, with an occasional bit of behind the scenes discussion, but basically this is her domain. She is now short of some grandchildren and he wants to get them back for her. Everything dances round her, she is the centre and this gets dysfunctional when you start involving other people, ie the children grow up into other people.

The obsession with a favoured person, opting out of the difficult problems of personal relationships and therefore not learning useful skills in that area could all be asd related.

I had a hell of a time with my mother, and when I eventually called her on her favouritism, it went tits up and she didn't ever admit to it. We ended up with a more distant cooled relationship as we both tried to avoid NC - there had been too much in previous generations on her side. A triumph of sorts, I guess. I feel very detached from my parents, and the love has been replaced with a sort of calm duty.

I would take heed of Meerka's advice and reply in a way that you are making (almost permanent) breathing space, without absolutely slamming the door.

I would agree that favouritism is not something that will change, no matter what you do. It is easier once you can take a philosophical approach from a distance.

I think it is important to nurture a balanced relationship with one's OH and there should be no opting out, or leaving it to the other because they are seen to be better at it as far a relationships with the children go. If one does it all and the other just backs them up blindly, you end up with just the input of one parent, when you could have had two, only you think you have two Hmm.

DayLillie · 04/05/2015 15:28

To add: my mother's favouritism came from her habit of overcompensating for what she perceived as one of her children being disadvantaged compared to the others. Just happened to be the one most like her in temperament.

DayLillie · 04/05/2015 15:29

To add: my mother's favouritism came from her habit of overcompensating for what she perceived as one of her children being disadvantaged compared to the others. Just happened to be the one most like her in temperament

shirleybasseyslovechild · 06/05/2015 03:27

fFS you are all slagging off the dad for his old fashioned language . Some of you with your Eng Lit degrees and you being at least a generation ( maybe two ?) younger are even rewriting an ACCEPTABLE wording.Well bully for you . But you are not the fil , you are not of his generation.

Get the pole out your arse . It's a generational / cultural thing.
Life is far too short to nurse your wrath.

shirleybasseyslovechild · 06/05/2015 03:35

by the way my fil is an alcoholic waste of space who has put my lovely Mil through a big old pile of shite for nearly 60 years.
privately we all hope he pops off soon.
but practically we all help out and visit often. Because that's the right and decent thing to do.
OP your husband gets 50% of his genes from this man you choose to excommunicate .
your children 25%. maybe they will grow up and cut you off too ?

JohnFarleysRuskin · 06/05/2015 06:59

formality is fine: threats to close the door, threats to financially cut off, time limits - not so much. That is not a generational or cultural thing so I don't know why you are pretending it is.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 06/05/2015 07:03

I don't have an English lit degree, but fortunately despite the pole in my arse(?) I do have basic comprehension skills.

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