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HOBBIT'S BAR - still finding it hard to move on...part 4

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WellWhoKnew · 23/03/2015 00:51

If you are struggling to come to terms with the ending of your marriage, no matter how that came about, this is the place where you come to say SHIT THIS IS HARD, when you hit those times of despair.

It is the place where it is never rude to interrupt if you're having a bad day and need to vent. No matter what.

The bar, owned by Hobbit, but run by committee, is open to all as we wind our way through divorce, come to terms with our individual circumstances, or just cope with adjusting to a new life.

My name is WellWhoKnew (known here as everyone's bloody mother!). I was suddenly abandoned nearly eleven months ago. I've just had the final hearing (finished five days ago) and I am now officially an ex-wife. I now have to start making plans for a very different future than I ever imagined, which includes moving home, getting a job, and leaving the deadwood behind.

It is the place where the only thing anyone will tell you to do is keep on, keeping on.

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iwashappy · 03/04/2015 01:42

Our one bathroom is downstairs so have to clamber downstairs half asleep when I need the toilet in the night and it was new sometime in the 1980s!! Bet you're very jealous now! And we have an outside toilet too.

Very posh! I won't be asking him anything anytime soon, but yes I know what you are saying.

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 01:46

I had a downstairs bathroom in previous yellow house. The good thing about a downstairs bathroom though is that guests don't have to go upstairs see the mess

Cor an outside toilet too. That's interesting, seriously. We had an old brick built air raid shelter in yellow house. Outside dimensions good but inside absolutely tiny. I loved it.

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 01:48

I prefer the street our old house is in. I do t often drive that way but when I do I nearly crash each time as I slow down to look at the house.

iwashappy · 03/04/2015 01:48

I like Kate Bush. I always thought Babooshka was an interesting concept - about a woman who has an affair with her husband.

We should have an initiation process for anyone new - a challenge, a good mick take out of Sid, pass proofing read test from WWK and guess how many bedrooms you have Izzie. Absolutely, the DJ job is important.

Yellow bath! I feel better now about my bathroom

I have to tear the boxes up otherwise I fill the bin up

iwashappy · 03/04/2015 01:54

That's a good point about the mess DD's room

Old air raid shelter sounds great, I find things like that interesting.

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 02:06

Initiation process sounds good.

Yes I love a bit of history. Will tell you something about this house tomorrow. Not exactly history, but a bit strange. I better start getting ready for bed. Catch you tomorrow I hope. Xx

onceinagoldenmoon · 03/04/2015 02:39

initiation process you say? And what's the story with bobs? I went to school with a couple of people who are now MPs so not quite as fancy as Kate Bush.

iwas are we further along with ambush plans? I have quite a few chicken costumes (don't ask) and I'm sure we could cross moat without being noticed. Just say when my friend... just say when.

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 08:26

Oh Chicken Licken aka Once your first mission isn't going too well but love the costume You have to read through all the threads to find the answer.

Don't tell her bobs

FuckitAndStartAgain · 03/04/2015 09:14

Looked through money stuff with son number one last night. He thinks that currently it is just possible to stay in house, the plans SBTX has for our future are an important issue though.

Also talked to my brother, he will help costs of mediation. He also sees a lot of sense in not fighting at work. Just letting it go. I don't know. In many ways I see the sense in that but it does not sit well with me not to work. Psych commented work was a big part of my identity, perhaps it is because the current job is so hard that I feel so bad? There isa lot of support from sons for this, youngest has been saying for ages to quit. But my students, who are being short changed anyway, will have problems.

Then thorny issues of how to keep us when my income drops again, no answer at all to that one.

I am so bitter about OW. She is so grasping and horrid. How can she give up work knowing her partners young adult children will suffer? How can she live off the income that we all worked hard for, for our family. But then who could pay for a hotel to screw a man with, at the time, young dependent children and wife who lived in both ignorance and pain. How could she ask me what my boys might like for tea? How could she pretend to be me online? How could she ask me if stbx left me for her and it didn't work out would I take him back in a couple of years time? I have no contact with her at all this time but I still have not got all those horrible times out of my head.

How could I let him back after all this only to spend five years trying to be good enough?

Before all this I thought we we're so in love. Friends thought we were.

We had an excellent sex life (still did until the day he moved out of here and three months after he told me he was off). Afte30 years we had sex twice a week, a leg in plaster did not stop us, only really snotty colds on the whole!

This is the third career I have lost. One as it clashed with his sport, he wanted and needed and argued for that and I caved doing the child care so he could play. I was flying through PhD when the affair began, despite using an electric wheelchair and driving up the motorway with one foot only to operate car controls! I lost it. Now another, in many ways I am doing my dream job, albeit not in anyone's idea of a dream organisation to work for. A medical retirement is crap and does not fit with how I see myself at all. I am 50. Could live a long time in poverty unless I get my arse into gear.

Think I will go and have another cigarette, that will mean I don't have too long to worry about (kidding, sort of oh who knows)

Sorry this is another pity party. I can't even scroll back on this to try and make some responses to anything else.

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 09:19

Hi everyone, YEY! It's Easter, in with Iwas , just had a Caramac at 8 o' clock in the morning Grin
< other chocolate bars are available>

Wheedled it out of the boys eggs

Is there a film called Dirty Rotten Complete Cunts ? If not there definitely should be, I'd go and see it !

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 09:22

Tee HEE , the c word at nine o'clock on Good Friday, I will be struck down Easter Shock

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 09:35

Sorry, Fuckit my love, cross posted, didn't mean to not reply to your heartfelt post.
You just get it all out, all your pain and confusion at how he has treated you, we all understand only too well how you are feeling, we have all been there/ are still there, they are just selfish MLC bastards, we will never really understand how they can rip apart a family in this way.

We will listen and try to help, or just empathise and offer a virtual hand to hold. Divorce is devestating, and no one realises actually how devastating until they have personally experienced it. Take care of yourself.

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 10:14

I've got the rage on your behalf now, Fuckit , and no one like Hobbit when she's angry! Easter Angry
Fight back my love, use everything in your arsenal, shoulder your fucking rocker launcher and fire up the Kalashnikov !

Do not give them the easy transition they obviously want< she sounds a complete nut job by the way>

You can do it, you're just worn down and overwhelmed at the moment, it's not a pity party, gather your loyal troops around you, your sons and your family, and launch a counter attack.

And on a personal note, I've decided when I go into that mediation meeting, I'm going to think of everyone on this thread, and know that I have everyone's support and good wishes, and that will give me some modicum of strength, and if I cry, I'm fucking crying for a good reason, because that twat let me down in the worst way, and he's not getting his own way any longer.

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 10:18

Hi Green , can I have my balls of steel back for the 14th please? Easter Grin

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 10:37

Fuckit so sorry you are having a tough time of it. Glad that your sons are getting involved though and giving their opinions. You know they have only your interests at heart. Same re your brother.

I totally get you re the OW. The one in my case is vile. I'm not going to write about her again, it will just get me going. But believe me, there is absolutely no ill that I don't wish on her. And she still continues behind the scenes. She won't be happy until I'm off this earth. I think of her at the moment all smug because he has just bought a fucking expensive brand new car. I think of her in the showroom with him. I wonder if they assumed they were married. Oh I bet she's got that in mind. Well he will end up hating her because she will never be a part of our lives. He will have to go to weddings, christenings etc on his own. My sons' future wives will never meet her. His sons will never set foot in the place he lives. She's the mad vile woman we all know about but who we never mention in his company. I wonder how she will explain that away? Mad ex wife manipulating her adult sons? I don't think so. We have all individually said th him that we want nothing to do with her ever.

Rant over for now.

Back to your story, yes unbelievable! What goes on in their fucked up minds, who knows.

Hobbit you sound very chocolatey chipper today. Good to hear from you! I wouldn't bother going to iwas or her local Waitrose, as there are no eggs to be found there well hidden and scoffed

PS Waitrose is a shop. Found in civilised areas. Meaning definitely not in the arse end of nowhere.

Apparently Our local Sainsburys has run out if Easter eggs. It was bad enough the other day when I wanted to get some of the little ones, like mini eggs. But not Easter cakes I've bought them all

Good Friday. Yes it's all go over in my part of the world. A few dog walkers out, roads clear. Weather dull. They will all be found at Homebase later. Or in Sainsburys. Because shock horror the shops all close on Sunday and we may all starve!!

Well in true bank holiday tradition I thought I might do some more painting. After another cigarette.

bobs123 · 03/04/2015 10:39

Hobbit you go girl must be a sugar rush from the caramac and do you know, if he's all detached and serious, it will help keep the meeting shorter (cheaper) and to the point instead of a Twunt who waffles on about how hard done by he is.

Don't know if you read my 2 posts on Wednesday re my meeting (around 8-8.30pm). The best bit was saying he had to produce something before the next one. Useful to know that you can send stuff to each other via the mediator in between meetings.

Hmmm chocolate - have to confess to eating a cream egg last night. Won't be buying any more as definitely not like they used to be Easter Sad (at least I don't pinch the kids chocolate Easter Shock )

In this household, because I'm skint/tight/greedy, I buy us a small (£1 on offer) egg each, then anything that is egg shaped (well round) and chocolatey, so we have maltesers, chocolate oranges, mini eggs, cream egg biscuits, minstrels etc. Sometimes I even save stuff from Christmas that was on offer [Easter Grin

bobs123 · 03/04/2015 10:40

Sorry couldn't resist - pretty gross!!!

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 10:44

Hobbit if you do cry, don't worry. It's better to have decent feelings than to be a cold heartless cunt. And remember, his day is yet to come. His life will unravel at some stage. By which time you will have totally detached. It's about time someone on here had her ex doing that. I reckon Sid could be the first. And whose ex will come crawling begging for forgiveness? It could make an interesting vote.

Talking of which, I want to go to a tarot thing. For a bit of fun. I'm going to mention it to a few friends, to see if they will come with me. I will put my wedding ring back on for the occasion, so she doesn't get any clues.

bobs123 · 03/04/2015 10:59

Fuckit there are people in this life who don't care about how their action affect other people. If they don't have any contact with you, they don't have to think about you.

Please just remember, those of you going to mediation, a good mediator will spend part of the first meeting just going through points to think about in coming to a decision re asset splitting (mostly in your favour if you are the SAHM and lower earner). However they cannot give any advice of what would be a fair split. My stbx asked ours several times what she considered as fair - she couldn't answer this. Once she has all the disclosure she will have a fair idea of the boundaries of what is fair and will try to steer one or the other of you in the right direction. Once either side has put forward a proposal this should be discussed with a solicitor.

If you have disclosure already and have seen a solicitor with this, you should have a fair idea of what is reasonable and upper and lower limits of what to ask for/accept. You can then immediately say yes or no to his proposal and save time, or ask him to submit a better one before the next meeting

Of course it is all voluntary, and although you can ask for clarification on assets, you might not necessarily get it - and he can not be forced to give it.

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 11:02

Ha ha, Bobs do you think there're big enough? Don't know if I could sit down in them!

Hey Izzmeister here's someone else who enjoys painting!
Maybe you could hook up? Easter Grin

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 11:06

Tee HEE! Who's a naughty Hobbit?

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 11:06

Hobbit I know him! Here he is working out....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcEt0-KRHOE

Izzie595 · 03/04/2015 11:10

Hobbit I wonder if he tapes it up to stop it dangling in the tin Grin

FuckitAndStartAgain · 03/04/2015 11:16

I need to get his voice out of my head, the one that said I was pathetic, that he only had sex with me because he felt sorry for me, the one who never made me feel ok. Too fat, smoker, too useless.

How do you do that.. How do you stop caring what they think of you. He knows me better than anyone. 32 years worth. I grew up with him, made mistakes with him made babies with him.

He has replaced everything. He has taken away my dreams of retirement beaches etc. He even told me our family holidays, organised by me with bucket and spades were boring and he hated them. I spent hours asking him what he would like to do for a holiday.

I booked adult time away, romantic weekends. All rejected as sub standard because he did not actually want to spend time with me.

I was determined to make our partnership work enter he had that affair. He lied. He said he did too but his heart was never in it. I failed and failed and failed.

Still failing, work, house everything.

Some of this might be down to Psych who pointed out just how much I blame myself for everything. But how do you get it out of your head?

Hobbitwife001 · 03/04/2015 11:19

Well it certainly merits that! What was he thinking? Posting that on a dating site? Bit of a niche market, only Izzie need apply Easter Grin

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