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Feminism - thoughts?

181 replies

tyuiobnm · 22/03/2015 15:31

I am quite traditional. I don't really understand women who are so keen to 'be equal' to men. I understand that equal pay etc is something that needed to be addressed...but seriously, in today's world, is any of that even an issue anymore?

Without going into huge amounts of analysis, I think the very fact women are feminists, undermines women completely. I have a good job and feel happy with my life, and as a result I'm proud to be a woman...I enjoy organising the home, cooking and cleaning... and although I know it's not the same for everyone, I think generally women are much better and more in tune with these kinds of tasks.

There are also lots of reasons why women and men are, and always will be different. IMO I think people should get over it.

On a recent date - not sure how we got onto this topic - but the guy was very surprised I wasn't a feminist. I found this extremely unattractive.

Thoughts/opinions?

OP posts:
Nolim · 22/03/2015 15:34

I enjoy organising the home, cooking and cleaning... and although I know it's not the same for everyone, I think generally women are much better and more in tune with these kinds of tasks

I totally disagree with this. May i ask if you have a basis for this opinion or is it just anectdotoxal information and personal preference?

anvilofleibnitz · 22/03/2015 15:34
Biscuit
thatstoast · 22/03/2015 15:35

Don't ask me, I'm just a girl! Grin

anvilofleibnitz · 22/03/2015 15:36

I actually retract my jammy dodger.

I would state I am amused by the "man pretending to be a woman" tone Grin

TrulyTurtles · 22/03/2015 15:37

Ohh this will be good. Cuppa anyone?

Marshpillow · 22/03/2015 15:37

"I think people should get over it."
Wow.

AnyFucker · 22/03/2015 15:38

my thoughts ?

I think you are a Goady Fucker

Raconteurs · 22/03/2015 15:38

You don't understand why one group of people might want to be treated as equal to another?

Vivacia · 22/03/2015 15:40

Ok, perhaps this is more for the sake of the readers...

OP what is your definition of Feminism, because I think you are confused about what it means.

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tyuiobnm · 22/03/2015 15:40

These responses are really interesting.

Nolim I guess it is anectdotoxal to an extent, although I was bought up in a home with very traditional values and around women who seemed to very much enjoy running a home. I work in a very male-orientated environment, so there was never discouragement growing up for me not to succeed in the same way a man can.

I just find feminism a really strange thing...why aren't women happy to be women and..let's be honest...women do many things better than men, one of which is rising above men's immaturity (!), so why not take that approach with this..as opposed to a vile article I read the other day entitled 'free bleeding.'

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Vivacia · 22/03/2015 15:40

Your definition appears to be "The desire of women to be just the same as men".

pocketsaviour · 22/03/2015 15:41

How absolutely fascinating, dear.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 22/03/2015 15:41

My thoughts are ... Shouldn't you be cooking and cleaning?

thatstoast · 22/03/2015 15:41

Now now, let's give the first time poster the benefit of the doubt.

EBearhug · 22/03/2015 15:42

You are either very naive or very goady. If it's the former, there's plenty of information around on why feminism is still needed. If it's the latter, then feel free to sod off.

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tyuiobnm · 22/03/2015 15:42

vivacia* the way I understand feminism is a means to ensure quality between men and women.

Whilst I agree with that principle, it is clearly not going to be 100% achievable in every aspect of life. Things such as 'free bleeding' and a hatred towards men seems absolutely absurd to me.

I realise that's an extreme element of feminism, but is still exists!

OP posts:
Nolim · 22/03/2015 15:43

Op can you please clarify what you mean by feminist? You say you agree with equal pay etc so what is the aspect in which women should not try to be equal to mean? You mention house work, anything else?

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 22/03/2015 15:44

"Free bleeding" is made up bullshit positioned as feminist

File under "you can't call it Christmas any more!" and other urban myths

SenecaFalls · 22/03/2015 15:44

What do you think about violence against women, OP? And the feminists who have been responsible for nearly all of the activism against it?

EBearhug · 22/03/2015 15:44

women do many things better than men, one of which is rising above men's immaturity

You don't appear to have a very good opinion of either women or men. Feminism expects more of both women and men.

WestEast · 22/03/2015 15:44

Is there a spontaneous combustion emoticon? Cos that's what I'd rather do than attempt to counter that rubbish.

Vivacia · 22/03/2015 15:44

I think feminism is more to do with equality of opportunity. I.e. people should have the same economic, political, cultural and social opportunities.

Nolim · 22/03/2015 15:45

Men not mean. And anectodoxal is also a typo of course.

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tyuiobnm · 22/03/2015 15:46

I'm not sure why there's such an aggressive response! It was a genuine query to see if any other women could understand where I am coming from?

I love my job and I would be furious if a man was paid more than I was for it/if I hadnt been able to actually do it.

But yes..I love running a home and when we have kids I will happily take a career break while my OH carries on working. It's instinctive to me, and as a result, when I go back to work, I won't expect to be paid the same as a male who has been in work for the duration...surely that IS fair? As one example.

Women should celebrate the differences, not turn into men haters, which I find embarassing for womankind. Personally.

No need to be rude, posters!

OP posts:
TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 22/03/2015 15:47

Does your OH know about your recent date?