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annoyed with stingy boyfriend

242 replies

blizzardcat · 21/03/2015 12:22

I've been seeing my boyfriend for 2 years. I always have paid half of all meals out, I expected to, he expected me to, but I am getting fed up of never being treated. Not even for my birthday.

When he stays at mine I usually cook for him. He eats a lot! I pay for the meals at my house...but when I stay at his we eat out mostly and I pay half.

Same with driving. He likes to go places in my car rather than his. A few months ago we went for a night away, he wanted to go in my car, I said fine but you can pay half the petrol. He told me 'that is not how it works'. So refused to pay towards petrol. I hoped he would then pay for dinner (accommodation free, i arranged it) but no. He made it very clear that I was expected to pay half as usual.

I actually dumped him over this as the night away cost me £60 in petrol, i arranged free accommodation, he did nowt and it rankled. After a week he apologised, took me out for dinner, PAID.
We talked about it, he agreed he had been unfair, agreed to make sure things are fair in the future.

They aren't. I think he is probably just very mean with money.

If I bring it up he tells me I am being petty and mean, but I feel it is ok him saying that when actually he is the one who is holding onto his money.

He earns over twice as much as me btw, certainly isn't rich so does need to be careful with money, but spends plenty on himself, his children and pays his ex about double the csa maintenance amount . I am a single mum, money is tight, but i do have enough to get by, i don't need his, i just want it to be fair.

The birthday present he got me is lovely, but i know it cost half the price of what I got him last year!

Writing this makes me feel petty. He would say i am being petty. It is not about the money though, it is about how unfair it feels. He makes me feel cheap and a bit used. There is an implication that if i was 'a better gf' i would be treated better! Am i being petty or is he just mean?

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HelenaDove · 22/03/2015 00:48

I bet there was financial abuse in that marriage, I bet she had to justify every spend.

LucilleAndrews · 22/03/2015 01:21

Dump. You can do better.

SavoyCabbage · 22/03/2015 01:59

My mum has a friend who has been in a marriage like this for fifty years.

If he buys a lightbulb he docks the money from the housekeeping. He went mad when she bought a battery for the kitchen clock with the shopping as she should pay for that with her own pension as he wears a watch and doesn't look at the kitchen clock.

Worst of all is that he had the house they live in before he met her. So although she has lived there for half a century and has paid half the morgage etc. he's told her that she can't live in the house if he dies first and he has left it to his dd from his first marriage.

H2212jean · 22/03/2015 02:56

Wow I am in the same situation my boyfriend earns 4 times as much as me and he has no rent to pay no food bills nothing, he works away Monday to Friday and then when he comes home he stays at mine and eats all the nice food I buy for my lunches at work or for my child. I work 40 a week single mum earl £1000 I pay £700 of that to my rent and council tax and then after school fees for.my son and u can guarantee on a Friday of he comes home not straight to.the pub shell raid what food I have and then am stuck til the next Friday then when I get tax credit. I've said summary to him but he doesn't listen. I have to pay when we go out as well.always saying he has no money but magically he has money to go out every night at his hotel at work and then all weekend he will drink!! Why do we put up with ut their shit. Mine I think I'm.better off single

mildlyacquiescent · 22/03/2015 06:03

He's married (and won't divorce) and sponging off his girlfriend.

Either of those makes this relationship futureless!

I'm surprised the poor OP has to ask.

BackCrackAndNappySack · 22/03/2015 06:16

I think meanness and a lack of generosity (especially to those you love and who are generous with you) is a horrible trait in a person and I don't think I oculd be with someone like this, long term. If you've made him aware of how used you feel and he's made very little effort to change then I think you are going to either have to dump him, or accept that is how he is, and make major changes to the way you manage him. If you really don't want to be without him because he has other great qualities that override the tightness then you just have to change your behaviour.

Refuse to provide him with food free of charge. Insist you go food shopping together and make him pay half. Or present him with the receipts of what the meals have cost each week and insist he pays his share. If this proves difficult and impractical then tell him he's welcome to come over for the evening but he needs to have eaten first because you cannot afford to keep feeding him. Then sit with your dinner and enjoy it and let him go without if he hasn't taken you seriously.

Or if he's there for a good deal of the time, treating it just like home, using your shower, helping himself to whatever's in the fridge, coffee, tea, using the washing machine regularly etc., then start charging him a basic housekeeping amount each week. And tell him he's not welcome to stay over if he isn't going to contribute.

Insist that you take turns in each other's cars, insist he gives you petrol money. Stop treating him more generously than he will treat you on birthdays and Christmas.

You can't stop him being mean by nature but you can change the way you manage it and react to it. You don't have to be taken advantage of.

basgetti · 22/03/2015 06:18

H2212jean you are allowing your boyfriend to literally take food out of your child's mouth. What on earth are you thinking?

drspouse · 22/03/2015 06:23

When I had been seeing my DH about 6 months, in a LDR, we decided it was getting impractical to keep splitting bills, so we set up a small joint account, maybe £50 a month went in (or of that order) so we didn't have to keep working out who owed what to who.
We were earning roughly similar amounts but he had a car and I didn't. We only went on short car trips though, but a little later went on holiday together, put a chunk in this kitty account, and used it for holiday stuff (and his petrol).
If you see a long term future, why not suggest this as a chance for him to do things properly equally? Buy ingredients for a nice evening meal when you're at yours, from the kitty. Ditto babysitter if you need one. Cinema tickets, etc.

Maliceaforethought · 22/03/2015 06:40

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kittyvet · 22/03/2015 06:46

Dump him and move on. I put up with behaviour like this for 4 years and regret it! It's not about the money it's about five and take... Clearly he is all about taking!

kittyvet · 22/03/2015 06:47
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redcaryellowcar · 22/03/2015 06:50

Leave him, it won't improve and you'll always resent it. Lots of people are much more 'generous' with lots more or less money, you don't have to be rich to be generous.

BackCrackAndNappySack · 22/03/2015 06:54

Yes I agree there's a big difference between being careful with money generally and being one of those people who is happy to splash their own cash on themselves but it is looking for a chance to take unfair advantage of someone else in order to save themselves a few quid; that person who always hangs back from the bar when entering the pub with a crowd and mysteriously sneaks off home before everyone notices they didn't buy a round.

That's just a nasty, parasitic, grabby quality. I just could not be with someone if I knew they were like that. It's massive turn off for me.

hollyisalovelyname · 22/03/2015 09:19

Savoy is there any way that your mum's friend would go to a solicitor to get advice?
That poor woman having to live like that.

etStykkeKage · 22/03/2015 09:57

savoycabbage as hollyisalovelyname says, that is dreadful, I hope your mum's friend doesn't end up homeless after a life time of penny pinching. That is not right. He sounds a miserable old bastard and she can't even hope that he dies first and gives her a few years of freedom!

Anniegetyourgun · 22/03/2015 10:02

It's often a theme with a certain type of user that they can blame someone else in their past for how they behave now. The gf is expected to bend over backwards to prove she is not like the nasty ex, whether it's hogging the cash, nagging him to do his fair share of housework, or running off with the milkman. Actually, no, she doesn't have to prove anything. She isn't the ex and she most patently isn't sponging. Like a couple of others have hinted, I did wonder what the ex's side of the story would be, but even if it's true it's beside the point. If he genuinely hasn't noticed they are two completely different people he's got a severe problem with perception.

As for SavoyCabbage's friend, yes, do encourage her to get some legal advice. Unless they're not really married she is entitled to approximately half of everything after all these years, and even if they're not if she can prove she's contributed to the mortgage he can't just leave the house to someone else while she's flung out on the streets. What a very unhappy relationship it must be for him even to say that.

And H2212: the proper term for what you have there, my love, is a cocklodger. Your man must think he has a cock of gold that makes him worth everything you spend. I don't want this to sound harsh towards you as you clearly are just trying to be a good girlfriend/host, but you are frankly better off hiring an escort for the night as this is effectively what the transaction boils down to. That's not what I'd call a relationship.

SavoyCabbage · 22/03/2015 10:17

My mums friend has been to a solicitor as once the dh told her he wanted a divorce (this was over a decade ago) and my mum insisted she talk to a solicitor and when the dh found out he never mentioned divorce again and neither did she. She's so downtrodden that she doesn't see that she is an equal to, well to anyone really.

hollyisalovelyname · 22/03/2015 10:32

Savoy that is so sad. What a life.

Anniegetyourgun · 22/03/2015 10:37

Poor dear, if she believes she doesn't or shouldn't have any rights she may end up moving out and signing over her house to her step-daughter when she doesn't have to Sad At least she has some friends looking out for her.

FinallyHere · 22/03/2015 11:27

Oh dear.

^ Please read these comments and ask yourself, what you would say to a friend in this situation.

Very best wishes for a better future. xx

NettleTea · 22/03/2015 11:29

H2212 can you change your shopping habits so that you shop on Monday, that way it will only be the dregs of the week left when he goes fridge raiding

expatinscotland · 22/03/2015 13:02

Why change how you shop, hide food in your own home, set up 'kitties' for meals, etc? So you can keep a total dicksmack in your life? That's pathetic. Get rid. Why let a mean twat bring out the worst in you - point scoring, tit for tatting, keeping tabs like a pair of Uni flatmates?

expatinscotland · 22/03/2015 13:04

He hasn't divorced his wife because of cost to him, I would bet on that, and he pays over the odds to keep her sweet. Almost certain there was financial abuse there.

FuckYouChrisAndThatHorse · 22/03/2015 13:23

Couldn't agree with expat more.

blizzardcat · 23/03/2015 16:01

Well...
Had a word with him, along the lines of me being hurt that he didn't want to treat me to a birthday dinner when he is so generous to others in his life. He didn't take it too well. He can't see how his lack of generosity towards me is hurtful, and can't see that the over all situation is unfair in any way.

He immediately started listing all items he has ever bought (there is a list in his head it seems) and accused me of all sorts of things from gold digging to cheating on him, called me evil/nasty etc.

He thinks I am being a princess and said the next thing would be me telling him he can't do his hobby anymore because he needs to stay in and wash up. This is what his wife told him. So you guys were right, he can't see that we are two different people.

Needless to say, he is dumped and blocked! I wasn't going to dump him over it, after all it is just a few quid here and there, easy to fix if the attitude behind that wasn't so crazy. His reaction is so over the top and just plain mean i can't get over it. He seems to genuinely believe that I am dumping him over £20 he didn't spend on dinner. Git.

H2212 spell it out to him and/or get rid! That's a ridiculous situation, he must have no morals.

Thanks for all the replies, have helped me feel better off without him (though brokenhearted tbh. Why did he have to be like that?!)

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