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I've acted like a crazy woman and want to know if I can fix it

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Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:06

I can't even tell anyone in real life what I am going to post here because I'm ashamed of myself but I feel really bad and just want some advice on how to fix it.

I am 37 and had a really bad experience two years ago when I found my then fiance on a dating website looking for casual sex among other things. He had a whole secret double life of prostitute use and webcam sex. I found he'd been on there for a over a year, a few months before he proposed and had just been a completely diferrent person to the lovely man I thought he was.

I had to cancel the wedding and spent a long time in counselling. I am feeling much stronger. I got myself back together, got a great new job, built myself a wonderful social life, lost a lot of weight and re-did my hair, bought a whole new wardrobe and generally took care of myself and feel good again and am enjoying life a lot.

I have dated 4 people since then. The first two I was still not ready and the third was not a good fit.

The fourth one came along and I really thought it was going wonderful but have completely ruined it and want some advice on how to fix it, or if it is best to walk away and chalk it down to a loss.

I was out with friends and I could see him staring at me across the bar and he came over to talk to me eventually and took my number. He phoned me the same night to ask me out. We ended up talking on the phone and he was quite lovely really and I started to like him back. He seemed to "get" me and the first date we had just went on for hours and passed in seconds and the second date was the same.

He was very into me, doing all the right things. He called every day, he was asking all the time when the next date could happen. He said the time couldn't pass quick enough. He was letting me know he thought about me as soon as he woke up. We were just getting on great and I was full of butterflies.

He invited me out with his friends on Valentines day and said he'd told them all about me.

Then it all went wrong. I was with a friend setting her up a dating profile two weeks ago and I could not believe it when we searched for men for her and the man I was dating who seemed so lovely and so into me appeared! I was just bowled over with shock, and it said he had been online that day!

I asked him directly about it, and he said that he had put it up before we met and that he checked it out of habit or something to click on and that there was no one else he was interested in or talking to. He was very insistent that he needed me to believe what he was saying because he did not want doubts over something silly to ruin what looked to be something potentially wonderful. He told me I had no competition at all and he liked me very much and wanted to keep seeing me and only me.

Anyway, I just couldn't let it go, so found myself checking constantly and getting completely paranoid if he was online on whataspp and not texting me or if he checked his dating profile :( It ended in me sending him a very long and totally embarrassing email telling him I didn't believe him for a second that there was no one else and to never come near me again.

Reading back that email that was two pages long (the horror) it was all basically words I wnated to direct at my ex, and they were not meant for this man at all. We had not had any talk about being exclusive, and I was totally unreasonable and acted like a mad person.

He only replied in a very short message to say it was a shame, but if that was what I wanted he would respect my wishes.

I was mortified afterwards and realised he'd not done anything wrong so after a week of blanking him, I messaged him to tell him I was sorry, that I had some scars on me from my past and that made me perhaps a bit delicate and untrusting and that I really regretted what I did.

I asked him if he would consider please going out with me again because I regretted ending it. He said yes of course, and it was all right and not to worry about it.

The problem is, that was four days ago and he's not called or texted to suggest a day. He is away right now on a course and he is back on Saturday and he's not made any suggestion about seeing me.

In fact, he doesn't text me at all anymore, or call. He does reply to my texts instantly (I have been very sparing with them so as not to make things worse) but he responds only with short responses like "sounds lovely x" and obviously there's a very clear shift in his interest level.

I am just unsure what to do. I liked this man very much, and I know I have blown it and really made a bad impression of myself but I am honestly a good person, honestly not desperate but I do genuinely want to see him again and have a chance to put this right.

He knows a very small part of my history, but I obviously missed out the details. I just said I was engaged once and he turned out to be a cheat. That was it.

Should I suggest we set a date for the date and actually ask what day is good for him? Even thought it is obvious he is no longer that keen? He might be just being polite saying he still wants to go out with me?

Or should I leave him alone and hope he contacts me? The last two days I did not text him at all and he has not texted me, even though I have seen him online multiple times. It's pretty clear he's gone off me.

I do really want to be able to have a relationship again, and feel so bad that I reacted like this.

Please tell me how to play this.

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chachachar · 19/02/2015 21:11

Oh, bless you Sad

I think you need to know where you stand either way.

In your shoes I would bite the bullet and arrange a date - I think therein you will find your answer, probably through one of 3 possibilities:

  • he doesn't commit to a date/turn up/respond at all;
  • you go on a date but the spark has gone; or
  • you go on a date and the spark is still there and you get past it.

You need to move on one way or another and there's no point tormenting yourself with what ifs so I would just get on with it and rip the sticking plaster off. It might turn out ok!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 19/02/2015 21:14

Poor thing. I think you need to back off now if you don't want to come across as terribly needy. Let him make the running now and don't chase. He may just have been being polite - and kind - given your explanation. He sounds a nice man, considerate of your feelings, whether he was or wasn't on the dating site.

He may decide to contact you again if his feelings were very warm towards you. If he doesn't, just chalk it up to experience and never send e-mails/letters like that again because the next time, somebody could use that information to hurt you - this man won't. Rant at girlfriends, rant on here - all harmless.

He's probably evaluating, gathering his thoughts and I hope he contacts you again, you've apologised and you've done all you can. To chase him now will almost certainly put him off. He knows how you feel.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:14

Do you really think that someone can respect you again after such a performance? He said he loved how confident and carefree I was :( I feel so awful inside.

I just keep thinking that if he wants that date he will ask for it...but then maybe you are right and I rejected him and maybe need to take the bull by the horns.

Maybe if I could explain face to face quite what I went through he might understand :(

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 19/02/2015 21:15

Or do what ChaChaChar says, that may well work and at least you'd know where you are. Good luck!

YouAreMyRain · 19/02/2015 21:16

Meet him face to face, then you can chat properly and gauge his reaction. He may not want to meet up and may just be being polite but you won't know unless you try. All this texting and waiting for responses and analysing the responses is just making things worse.

Or chalk it up to experience and walk away.

It sounds like you at least want a chance to fix stuff.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:17

Now I read your post Lying that seems better! I don't want to seem even more needy! This is nothing like me. I'm such an easygoing, calm person. It was like I just saw red and was so scared of anyone ever putting me back where I was before.

If he is warm to me, will he take some time to get calm and decide it's worth one more meet and if not he was never that into me? I do think people deserve a second chance and hope he sees it that way :(

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Eminado · 19/02/2015 21:19

Oh bless you! Dont know what tomadvise but you seem lovely and i hope things work out.

YouAreMyRain · 19/02/2015 21:20

Give it a go. I sent my DP a scary ranty very long text message that makes me cringe thinking of it now. It should've could've scared him off but didn't.

Boomf · 19/02/2015 21:23

Ok so you acted madly but let's back up here for a moment... Yo found him on a dating website. What a load of bollocks he then spun you .. And yes, I firmly believe it was exactly that. Just something to click on was it? Yeah ok then!

I think your initial instincts were correct. He seems to have come in very strongly initially which can be a red flag. And now you've busted him, he's backed right off . Trust me, he'll still be clicking away on that dating website.

You've dodged a bullet here I think. Stop texting him now, however sparingly. He's not the one for you. The one for you won't be all gushy gushy whilst simultaneously tapping away on match.com. Let this one go...

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:25

Boomf that was what I thought on the day, but we'd been on TWO dates. Can hardly have expected him to have deleted his dating profile surely?

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chachachar · 19/02/2015 21:26

It's up to you, I wouldn't put myself through the grief of waiting to find out.

He either wants to see you again or he doesn't.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 19/02/2015 21:26

I'm not good at this, Sallyanna. I've gone back through your post and I think you could do with some 'good' news the way I see it:

  1. After your outburst he bothered enough to get in touch with you and say that it was a shame but if that was how you felt... very respectful of you.
  1. He replied to you when you said you wanted to go out together again - he didn't need to do that at all so that's positive.
  1. He's replying to your texts, he's not blanking you.

I have to be honest, a lot of men would have run a mile and not responded to you... he has.

What to do next?

I'd probably leave it a day with no texting at all - then I'd send an e-mail, honest and from the heart (but short):

"As you might guess, I'm mortified about my outburst. I'd really like to see you again to make it up to you or, if not, at least explain better that it was not directed at you at all. If you are agreeable, can we meet one day next week? I'm free x, y, z day. A walk around a park would be nice, talking is easier when walking. Thanks for your generous acceptance of my apology, it was and is heartfelt. Best, Sallyanna"

I really hope it works out the way you want it to. Thanks

Boomf · 19/02/2015 21:27

TWO DATES?!?! And he's already mooning about over you , texting non stop and banging on about how he's sooooo into you? Bloody mad and weird.

Trust your instincts. Or trust mine! This bloke has played you, you've caught him out and now you're having a wobble. Fuck him right off

pocketsaviour · 19/02/2015 21:29

How many dates had you been on before this behaviour started? Had you had the conversation about "I'm not looking to go on other dates now, what about you?"

Because if you'd been seeing him a few months and had that conversation, then as boomf said you may have dodged a bullet.

But it's not clear from your OP how long things had been going on. If you were only a few dates in then I'm sorry but I think you may have blown it and need to just walk away.

SofaSpud · 19/02/2015 21:30

I don't think you have been U. Although early days he was claiming to be smitten but his actions suggest he was keeping his options open. I'd be suspicious. Did you DTD?

Kvetch15 · 19/02/2015 21:31

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 19/02/2015 21:33

See Sallyanna, told you I wasn't good at this. I've wibbled at the following posters and think that they're right actually. What is your gut telling you?

Boomf · 19/02/2015 21:36

He's perfectly entitled to keep his options open after two dates. As are you OP. What's dodgy is his chat about how much he's into you etc etc and oh look... There he is, still keeping his options open on the website.

I'm actually more concerned about how quickly all of this was going.

Gather up your dignity OP. You've got all your answers from this man and it's time for you to delete his number and move on.

OhDearMuriel · 19/02/2015 21:38

I think you should back off and let him come to you if he wants to. You risk losing more dignity if you chase him.
It would bug me about the dating site too.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:42

I have a child and a busy life, so it was not always easy to go on dates otherwise we would have been out more often.

We'd been out twice in three weeks and in between time we talked a lot on the phone and texted a lot and he was always very happy to make the big effort to see me and always very understanding it was not easy for me to go out every night.

He was thoughtful, patient, VERY opposite of pushy. On the first date he was very shy and a bit scared so I asked if he wanted to kiss me and he said he'd wanted to since he first saw me but that he'd never presume. So I had to kiss him!

In the first week after we met I told him I was very busy and he actually didn't text or call for three days and when I asked if he'd forgotten me he just replied that he preferred me to do things at my own pace and if I was busy he'd give me space.

He's easygoing, passive, gentle, not really the alpha male type but also quietly strong in his ways and immensely stubborn which he explained when we first met as his biggest flaw.

No, we didn't DTD, he said he was in it for more than one or two dates and he was happy and excited to wait and get to know each other slowly. It was all just good.

Until now. It's very frosty now.

I am not sure how much time to give him, but his responses to my texts were nice...

When I first apologised four days ago and asked him if he still wanted to go out he replied "I'd like that" and "it would be a shame not to see each other again".

I texted again the day after to say I felt bad and regretted it and he said "Sally I totally understand" and I said I'd thought about him when I woke up and wished he was there and he said "I wish I was" and I said I really regretted cancelling our date on Valentines and he said "Consider it a postponed date Sally" and then I said I knew a place I wnated to go with him and he said it sounded lovely and when I asked if he'd like to go he said "of course".

then nothing for two days.

He's still very nice...just such short answers and no follow up at all, whereas before he was so keen to talk :(

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Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:43

Lying...my gut is telling me he really, really liked me and was completely genuine and I was an absolute, total psycho crazy bitch and now he kind of still fancies me but suspects I'm insane and doesn't really want that.

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Boomf · 19/02/2015 21:43

Stop now!!!!

SofaSpud · 19/02/2015 21:46

What's dodgy is his chat about how much he's into you etc etc and oh look... There he is, still keeping his options open on the website
claiming to be smitten but his actions suggest he was keeping his options open
Same thing surely?

Kvetch15 · 19/02/2015 21:48

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Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:52

He was on it before we met. I'd only known him for three weeks. He didn't join after we met, he'd been on it for 18 months.

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