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I've acted like a crazy woman and want to know if I can fix it

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Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 21:06

I can't even tell anyone in real life what I am going to post here because I'm ashamed of myself but I feel really bad and just want some advice on how to fix it.

I am 37 and had a really bad experience two years ago when I found my then fiance on a dating website looking for casual sex among other things. He had a whole secret double life of prostitute use and webcam sex. I found he'd been on there for a over a year, a few months before he proposed and had just been a completely diferrent person to the lovely man I thought he was.

I had to cancel the wedding and spent a long time in counselling. I am feeling much stronger. I got myself back together, got a great new job, built myself a wonderful social life, lost a lot of weight and re-did my hair, bought a whole new wardrobe and generally took care of myself and feel good again and am enjoying life a lot.

I have dated 4 people since then. The first two I was still not ready and the third was not a good fit.

The fourth one came along and I really thought it was going wonderful but have completely ruined it and want some advice on how to fix it, or if it is best to walk away and chalk it down to a loss.

I was out with friends and I could see him staring at me across the bar and he came over to talk to me eventually and took my number. He phoned me the same night to ask me out. We ended up talking on the phone and he was quite lovely really and I started to like him back. He seemed to "get" me and the first date we had just went on for hours and passed in seconds and the second date was the same.

He was very into me, doing all the right things. He called every day, he was asking all the time when the next date could happen. He said the time couldn't pass quick enough. He was letting me know he thought about me as soon as he woke up. We were just getting on great and I was full of butterflies.

He invited me out with his friends on Valentines day and said he'd told them all about me.

Then it all went wrong. I was with a friend setting her up a dating profile two weeks ago and I could not believe it when we searched for men for her and the man I was dating who seemed so lovely and so into me appeared! I was just bowled over with shock, and it said he had been online that day!

I asked him directly about it, and he said that he had put it up before we met and that he checked it out of habit or something to click on and that there was no one else he was interested in or talking to. He was very insistent that he needed me to believe what he was saying because he did not want doubts over something silly to ruin what looked to be something potentially wonderful. He told me I had no competition at all and he liked me very much and wanted to keep seeing me and only me.

Anyway, I just couldn't let it go, so found myself checking constantly and getting completely paranoid if he was online on whataspp and not texting me or if he checked his dating profile :( It ended in me sending him a very long and totally embarrassing email telling him I didn't believe him for a second that there was no one else and to never come near me again.

Reading back that email that was two pages long (the horror) it was all basically words I wnated to direct at my ex, and they were not meant for this man at all. We had not had any talk about being exclusive, and I was totally unreasonable and acted like a mad person.

He only replied in a very short message to say it was a shame, but if that was what I wanted he would respect my wishes.

I was mortified afterwards and realised he'd not done anything wrong so after a week of blanking him, I messaged him to tell him I was sorry, that I had some scars on me from my past and that made me perhaps a bit delicate and untrusting and that I really regretted what I did.

I asked him if he would consider please going out with me again because I regretted ending it. He said yes of course, and it was all right and not to worry about it.

The problem is, that was four days ago and he's not called or texted to suggest a day. He is away right now on a course and he is back on Saturday and he's not made any suggestion about seeing me.

In fact, he doesn't text me at all anymore, or call. He does reply to my texts instantly (I have been very sparing with them so as not to make things worse) but he responds only with short responses like "sounds lovely x" and obviously there's a very clear shift in his interest level.

I am just unsure what to do. I liked this man very much, and I know I have blown it and really made a bad impression of myself but I am honestly a good person, honestly not desperate but I do genuinely want to see him again and have a chance to put this right.

He knows a very small part of my history, but I obviously missed out the details. I just said I was engaged once and he turned out to be a cheat. That was it.

Should I suggest we set a date for the date and actually ask what day is good for him? Even thought it is obvious he is no longer that keen? He might be just being polite saying he still wants to go out with me?

Or should I leave him alone and hope he contacts me? The last two days I did not text him at all and he has not texted me, even though I have seen him online multiple times. It's pretty clear he's gone off me.

I do really want to be able to have a relationship again, and feel so bad that I reacted like this.

Please tell me how to play this.

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Cabrinha · 19/02/2015 23:19

Hang on, I've just re-read.

Have I got this right?

  • you find him on match
  • you tell him your upset, he says it was idle checking and he doesn't want to lose you over it
  • you then feel paranoid and check when he's on line there
  • you're able to list multiple occasions in this crazy email Wink when he was back on the dating site AFTER he knew how upset you were, and after he said he didn't want to lose you over it?

Love, stop beating yourself up. That paranoia was there for a reason, and well done you for not turning a blind eye to it!

You ended it. Frankly - GO YOU.

He's an arsehole. Don't just hide him as I suggested, on Facebook. Block him. Totally. Move on.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 23:30

Yes, that is a good point, I did tell him how upsetting I found it and he did continue to go back Confused

I suppose that is actually quite shit.

Maybe it was because of the total psycho email that I am assuming too much of a portion of the blame here, because while there's nowt wrong with him being on match, nor in checking in on his account...there is something pretty suspect about me telling him it pissed me off and him continuing to do the same thing.

If you really liked a girl, and knew she'd found her ex cheating...you'd probably not actually do that...?

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Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 23:31

I was so close to setting up a fake profile and testing him. I hate that I a like this now :( I really judge myself and my behavior as someone I don't like and maybe that's what I am really upset about. I lost my dignity, didn't I

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excitedbutscared · 19/02/2015 23:33

Again Sally, had exactly the same thing. After 3 months, I found him on Tinder (I saw the app on his phone one day and signed up myself). I had it out with him one night and told him how I felt it was disrespectful and I felt insulted. He came off it straight away and I haven't found him on it, or any other site, since

Sincap · 19/02/2015 23:33

I'd done exactly the same...

Asked for a date, but he already was on his back foot. I tried very hard he ended up being sarcastic and pathetic...

I lost interest myself after seeing his behaviour. Thus didn't give him a chance to make it work as I started to be pathetic myself.

Didn't trust him enough. It didn't work in my case...

Hope it will work in yours... See how he will act and take it from there. But please don't rush...

MadameJulienBaptiste · 19/02/2015 23:34

Fast forward a few weeks and you will be howling with laughter over a bottle of wine with friends. Telling them about Mr too keen to be true, and the scary stalker lady. I bet you can hardly get the email bullet points out for laughing.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 23:36

That's a good point!

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Cabrinha · 19/02/2015 23:37

MadameJB, I like you style and wish to share a bottle with you after my break ups Grin

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 23:38

Out of interest....if he is an arsehole, what will he do next?

And if he is genuine, what will he do next?

I mean, if he does get in contact I want to know how I should be assessing that from that point.

If I never hear from him again, fair enough, there's my answer but I don't want to either lose any more self respect here or let myself in with someone who might be less than a good person.

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Cabrinha · 19/02/2015 23:42

Sally, yes, it is quite shit of him.
I really don't think he's good news, and I think you sussed that out quickly. You just rolled in a heap of emotions you're still dealing with Flowers

I'm a match now. The multiple dating thing is weird, to me. I haven't agreed to any dates yet, but there's one guy who has blown all comers out of the water with lovely sparky chit chat. We've moved to texting. He was quite slowly responding sometimes this evening. I could see he was online on match. I don't doubt he was having nice conversations with others too. It's a weird feeling!

But you know, even after one date (if we have one and I like him) if he said "I non it's not how match works, but I don't feel comfortable with multiple dating - do you think you could hide your profile for a bit?" then I would.

You weren't asking that much of him.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 23:45

Thanks Cabrinha xxxxx

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VioletMoon4683 · 19/02/2015 23:45

It sounds to me like he's warey of you after your email.

I really don't think you can expect exclusivity 3 weeks in. Yes you were having initial dates but hadn't made a commitment to each other.

RubyFlint · 19/02/2015 23:47

Noooo don't contact him. I understand you're embarrassed but you've apologised enough, it's now time to let him do the chasing. If he doesn't, he never would have.

You can't force it, he'll get in touch if he's interested. Look how keen you are now that he's backing off. It's the same for him.. the thrill of the chase, knowing it doesn't come easy. And if it doesn't work out with him, you'll be glad you didn't beg him to come back to you. Best of luck.

Cabrinha · 19/02/2015 23:47

I know it's easy for me to say, but honestly? I'd just delete him now and if he contacts just ignore it say "I don't really feel this is going to work out now - good bye and good luck". No apologies.
You may find he tries to win you back then.

It he hadn't been so gushy at first, I might be more inclined to think that this was crossed wires and a modern way of dating.

But look... He was all over you. But still online. You tell him to come off, HE AGREES. He doesn't.
Seriously - why would you give him another chance? Why?
It isn't about what is normal in the early dating world. It's about him agreeing to something, and then lying.

And that's before I even get started on throwing you crumbs saying it's all OK, but not going back to "normal".

NEXT!!!

VioletMoon4683 · 19/02/2015 23:49

You've apologised, given a brief explanation and should just back off. If he arranges a date, go and enjoy it.

NerdyBird · 19/02/2015 23:54

I think this is a tough one. After your email he may well be taking a step back and thinking about whether he wants to go further. You said it was the sort of thing you'd wanted to say to your ex and perhaps he's picked up on that and doesn't want to deal with being scrutinised for what your ex did. As others have said, your email might have been a 'red flag' for him. Perhaps you are not as ready as you thought for a relationship? Of course, you could be right and he is a player and you've caught him out. I think perhaps the thing to do might be to contact him one last time with proper suggestions for a date. If he doesn't reply affirmatively then it would be better to cut your losses and move on. You both have children so better to get things sorted either way before you get too far into things.

Sallyanna1 · 19/02/2015 23:55

I am actually suspicious he IS seeing someone else or arranging it.

The first weeks we were dating he was only ever on whatsapp to talk to me.

He was previously on match every morning and every evening at minimum to check and maybe a few times in the day some days.

Now not been on match for days and he's constantly on whatsapp (even ow at midnight) and it;s not to me.

He probably did get a message from someone he quite liked when we were dating and was logging in to message her a bit, then I blew a wobbly on him so he decided to see what happened with her, swapped numbers, so now they are texting and arranging a date for when he gets back.

Does all look a bit suspicious. Probably messaging me about "postponed but not cancelled" dates so he can test stuff out with her first?

She's probably 25!

Starting to lose all faith in men whatsoever.

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QuintessentiallyInShade · 19/02/2015 23:56

Did your "stalking email" explain what YOU were doing on a dating site? Do you think he believes you? Or do you think he thinks you wee liking for dates, or maybe just checking him out?
I think you should move on....

DarkNavyBlue · 20/02/2015 00:04

Right. So you're back to exactly where you were - stalking him and extrapolating wildly.

I can appreciate you meant the crazy stuff in your e mail for your ex. However, the fact that you sent it to the new guy means that on some level you are that crazy lady.

Accept you're not ready to date yet and move on.

Carii · 20/02/2015 00:13

I think you have scared him and he is being naturally cautious. You need to stop contacting him at all and let him lead the pace of things.

SugarFreeforSpring · 20/02/2015 00:15

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Cabrinha · 20/02/2015 00:17

What's with the "probably 25" stuff?
Move on lovey. Who cares who he is talking to?

You should not still be looking at him on match / whatsapp /fb.
Delete him, block him.

Pass me your bloody phone and I'll do it for you.

He's keeping you slightly warm. Don't be just an option for someone.

Not all men are bad.
But some aren't great, and you identified this quickly. Meh to the letter, yeah you lost your dignity but it was all true. It's not the crime of the century. The only bad thing you're doing, is this stuff now.

You don't sound ready to date again yet. And that's FINE. Seriously - it bloody pulls the rug out from under you, when you discover prostitutes. Don't feel bad about needing more time Flowers

honeyroar · 20/02/2015 00:19

Gosh you could be me ten years ago. I'd had a cancelled wedding (his affair) and all the heartache that comes with it. Dated a few, met one I really liked, 3 dates, all going great, then I come home from a work trip away (when phones had no internet) and found he'd been on the dating site again (he'd asked that we both came off it). I sent a snotty, baggage filled email and dumped him. After a week I felt bad and apologised. A week after that he text me a simple hello. I rang him but he couldn't talk and said he'd ring back the next day to talk. He never did and I left it, figuring that I'd be too needy if I did, and that if it was going to work it would. I'm now married to a man that I know wouldn't have gone back online, would have talked it through, and would generally have been better.. I think leave him be now unless he comes back to you with interest and enthusiasm..

honeyroar · 20/02/2015 00:20

Ps, you sound like I was in that you're still very insecure from your past - you need a bit more time.

alicemalice · 20/02/2015 00:22

For some reason, it isn't good. I agree you should move on. With the right man, you're prob not going to feel paranoid.