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Still finding it hard to move on......

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Hobbitwife001 · 28/01/2015 20:05

Hello everyone, this is a continuation of my previous thread, so a big welcome to everyone who participated on that one, and hello to anyone new who would like to join in this one.

A little recap of my story, my husband of 27 years left four months ago for another woman that I considered a friend. We live in a small village, and he has moved in with her and her son around the corner from the family home.

I have two sons at home with me, they are 23 and 19, the youngest has Asperger's syndrome and dyspraxia.

I am having counselling to help me get over the massive shock of his betrayal, for months I couldn't sleep or eat very much and started to suffer panic attacks and anxiety.

At the moment I am at the nisi stage of our divorce, I have petitioned for unreasonable behaviour. I am now trying to get the best settlement I can before I apply for the absolute. Needless to say, he is trying not to provide any provision for my youngest son, and has put forward a 50/50 proposal for division of the assets.

So, let's carry on ladies shall we?

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Izzie595 · 30/01/2015 21:35

That above is regarded as a vile text

The truth often makes for unpleasant reading

TabbyTortie · 31/01/2015 09:43

Hello can I join you all? I am a regular on a quiet little corner of MN but have name changed so this doesn't link back. FDR is next week and I'm feeling scared. WWK has given me some great advice if I say that I got costs awarded she may realise who I am as apparently that's quite rare.

My STBXH has done most of the things on WWKs list and some more even more stupid and nasty. His form E was a bunch of figures picked out of the air with no documentation to back it up. He has ignored three court orders now so maybe looking at a little holiday at her majesty's pleasure which of course is all my fault.

I am a few years on from his affair so I have done a lot of healing but I spent many months crying in the street, in my car, with friends and family. As time goes by you will gradually heal from that. I rarely cry now. But I may do next week when he starts trying to bully in court...

WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 10:07

Welcome Tabby. Do join in.

I fully appreciate how awful divorce is, and if you're getting some costs awarded, then you're already spending more money than should be necessary in order to get fairness.

Form E is a like a book isn't it. It's so frustrating when it's a work of fiction. Here's a giggle for you:

Under X-Exam, Mr SW was taken through his, on the first page:

Is that your name?

Yes.

Is that how you spell your name?

No.

Let's turn to the last page. Is that your signature?

No. But I'm on oath now so I'm telling the truth.

Let's turn to the second page. Is that all the bank accounts you have?

No.

Please explain.

It's my financial advisor's fault he has to explain it.

Good luck in your FDR.

greenberet · 31/01/2015 10:11

i have just had a shouting rant with dh on the phone - the floor in the utility room has been wet again this morning under the washing machine - i thought it was the dog having an accident! when i look in the cupboard - one of the hoses has come off the back of the washing machine and i can hear the water dripping - ask DD to phone Dh to see if he can come over -his answer can it wait til tomorrow when he drops DS off - yes if he wants water all over the floor - then when i speak to him in tears and shouting i am the one that always makes things difficult - i cant move the washing machine - my DD has tried - my boob is twice the size this morning - beleive me if there was anybody else i could ask I would as i dont want him here - what is wrong with him? he still owns half the house - i cant even swear because my disbelief in his attitude is beyond words - i cnat put the kids washing on - what a complete F88K!

TabbyTortie · 31/01/2015 10:21

That's hilarious WWK my ex put a fictitious address on his then slipped up in court by complaining about the distance he had to travel from his real address. I shall expect more of the same next week.

green would a neighbour help?

greenberet · 31/01/2015 10:33

Hi Tabby

stupidly i have put all my reliance on DH over the years - i have just told my DD never to do the same - normally I would be capable of doing this myself but just not now - I have spoken to my DF - but quite rightly it is still DH's responsibility - he just doesnt want to get out of bed - im sure if he was coming to collect his share of the household contents he would be over - what he doesnt get is all the time the kids see how he behaves - yes im shouting im having to deal with F88888G hell at the moment
and my anger is probably more the frustration of not being able to deal with it myself than anything else

WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 10:35

Tabby Oh yours too? Mine is most upset we keep using his real address too. We have received many letters of complaint on this matter. We've patiently explained that we will use the address on his bank accounts as apparently he has 'no connection' to the other address. So if you can explain that, you're doing better than MrSW, who also keeps complaining about having his time wasted in court...

Green can you afford a plumber, or as Tabby says is there a neighbour or family member you can ask for help from? People really don't mind - but I fully understand is so frustrating having to ask them. Unfortunately, your husband is going to use any excuse to cause you upset and he's got every opportunity to upset you if you ask for anything from him.

greenberet · 31/01/2015 10:36

hes turned up - cant look at me though can he -

WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 10:37

Green shout away, get mad, kick the walls but just be kind to yourself. Hope the boob (the real one, but also the tit in your life) calms down soon. The washing can wait a day - it really can, and spoil yourself rotten right now.

WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 10:39

Yey! Good news (we keep cross-posting) then once he's fixed it as a matter of principle - don't do the laundry! I would get a real giggle out of that.

greenberet · 31/01/2015 10:41

well yes to TITS! :-)

greenberet · 31/01/2015 10:42

he worked out he didnt need to get DS up to come!

greenberet · 31/01/2015 11:36

hes done what he can - i need to get a plumber out - i have just had to ask my DD if my perception is skewed because this is what it does to you - thankfully she says not -
i have been questioning whether there is some sort of female midlife crisis & wondering why all the OW generally tend to be significantly younger -(this is my psychological interest) i understand from a male perspective that they start to feel old & so a younger OW recpatures their youth? but wondered what is the attraction of the older man to the OW and then I remembered - in my case she lost her DF 3 years ago so wonder if this casts them adrift and they need a father figure -maybe thats why there was the "targeting" -
DD is doing the washing up - so thankful for her!

TabbyTortie · 31/01/2015 11:58

WWK you made me laugh its helping the nerves a bit.

Yep much younger OW here too not quite young enough to be his grand daughter but not far off. The attraction was his promise of a fat wallet when that turned out to be mostly lies she dropped him like a hot potato.

greenberet · 31/01/2015 12:10

hi all- a normal post rather than a rant

just caught up and want to thank you all for your well wishes - im doing okish after this mornings hurdle. a quiet day on the sofa planned.

sorry to hear some of you are going through a difficult time family & why - it is just ongoing isnt it? - there is great support on here - I hope to be able to offer more but am just about keeping myself upright.

had to laugh at the image of you izzie in your nightie & boots - i guess i have this to look forward to!

drifting you sound so much better and you are doing well- keep going

think i need a sleep

Izzie595 · 31/01/2015 13:41

All of the men seem to become either controlling or spiteful.

I'm now back to square one with the issue of the dodgy car. Last night I read an email sent by him last week which I had merely skimmed then archived. , I was so disgusted by the vile accusations, twisting of the truth, lies and threats, that I told him I would sort the car myself, and I cancelled the test drive [although it was onlu for the model! not the actual vehicle]. Maybe not the smartest of moves re sorting the car, but so be it.

He has been trying to control all aspects of it. I even felt that going on a test drive with him was about exerting his control rather than helping me. He was also trying to force my hand, making me buy a car, "cutting coat according to cloth", and he would generously pay out of his settlement whatever his cost above mine. Arrogant entitled bastard. I'm also expected to commit cash without knowing the final outcome. He will want to maintain the choice. It doesn't surprise me at all, I knew he would avoid showing his hand.i also went back to him about how the maths was in his favour, and that I wasn't agreeing to that.

I've decided to go no contact now, partly for my own sanity and time, and also partly because I can't stand the odious entitled little man he now is.

Office hours too. I'm open for business when I get home from my proper work until my shopping is delivered. That means 1, maximum 2 hours a week. I'm employing Carol "Computer says no".....not the most efficient of workers, but her customer service skill are perfect.

I lost another night's sleep seething about him. I'm happiest without contact.

It's three months today since he left. I feel it's a bit of a milestone to celebrate. In that time I have done a lot of decorating, a lot of sorting, and, despite some of my posts, I think I am getting so much closer to actually wanting this to go all the way to divorce. I credit some of this to the contact, to seeing him as he really is. I am making bigger connections between his actions with the finances and his actions with the unstable frump. Certain events, what he said at the time, I now interpret those in a different light, and it's starting to make sense. He is a very bitter man.

I'm feeling more relaxed about what may happen financially. I'm not worried about moving if necessary. Moving would definitely mean the property was just mine, and I am at liberty to decide who does and doesn't cross the threshold.

I don't want him in my life after settlement. My oldest son agrees that any relationship is untenable due to the OW alone and her continuing attempts to target me. We have both told the ex. It didn't go down well with him. Not my problem.

All in all, I reckon I've done pretty bloody well in three months. Next step is to get some earlier nights and to stop being so lazy about cooking. I really haven't got to grips with the cooking at all.

Izzie595 · 31/01/2015 13:45

Green , missed you. I hope you are still on that sofa

Tabby, good to have another on board. I would say it's nice to see a new perspective, but really all the stories are the bloody same!

Hobbit, where are you? You ok? Are you worried about voting day?

Iwas, please no!

Drifting , you rat, you're cooking now.....

WWK KOKO

Fontella, thinking of you, missing those posts of yours

WellWhoKnew · 31/01/2015 15:41

You're doing just fine Izzie. It's ONLY three months and divorce takes longer than that so glad to see you're starting to exercise your own control over your life. They get v.v.v.v mad when you have your own ideas and opinions, and make decisions just for you. This is the first law of the "married" man: woman must do as she's told. When man fucks off, woman can do as she pleases. Good riddance.

Screw cooking - if you hate it, you hate it. I hate cooking for one although I like cooking generally.

Green enjoy your day on the sofa. Makes me feel better for being bone idle today - not even managed to empty the washing machine yet (I hate that job, I don't know why).

Things I'm looking forward to post divorce: not having that 'anxious' feeling day after day after day after day, morning, noon and night. Good luck with the FDR next week Tabby - you never know, you might settle then and it'll be over bar the shouting. I had this amusing idea of taking a 'good book' in next time STBXH takes to the witness stand and sit there reading to indicate my total indifference to anything he says. I can imagine this will not be allowed by the judge under any circumstance but if it were, I'm wondering what the most apt title is that I should be reading?

"Runaway Husbands" by Vickie Stark would be taunting but
"The Liar's Chair" by M. J. Arlidge might be more accurate but my intelligence may well be best communicated reading:
"Disclosure and Due Diligence in the International Capital Markets" by Roger Wedderburn-Day

Reckon Hobbit has run off with Iwas' husband...

Hobbitwife001 · 31/01/2015 15:53

I'm here! Been out gallivanting again haven't i? Went to cinema and for a meal yesterday , Theory of Everything , I cried a bit, had Fajitas, yum, and today went out for lunch with my sons, son number 1s girlfriend and her mum and had some retail therapy. I must admit i enjoyed it more than talking therapy, maybe I need to do more of the former and less of the latter!
Have read all the latest posts, it's nice to meet you tabby, although for crap reasons, it sounds as if they are all being complete twunts, as usual, they make me sick to my stomach all of them, and if I could get away with it I'd destroy the lot of them, they are a waste of oxygen.

Green, my love , please look after yourself, can your DF not come and stay while you recuperate? I know you have your children there but I think you need a bit of extra help just for a day or two. I know what you mean about not asking 'him' to help, it would bug me too, I hate him coming to the house, but can't ask him not to really as it is still in joint names.

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Hobbitwife001 · 31/01/2015 15:56

HeyWWK, you cheeky mare! As if, , I would take that privilege from the fair maiden Izzie, tee Hee!

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Izzie595 · 31/01/2015 18:43

WWK screw cooking....I've been starving all day, too lazy to cook anything, so just picking at a few bits. Couldn't even get the lid off Doritos dip! Finally cooked myself a plate of sausages. Just sausages! I've tackled allsorts of DIY stuff recently, and I panic at the thought of cooking.,I despair of myself sometimes Sad

The books Grin

Hobbit sounds like you have had a lovely time.

Izzie595 · 31/01/2015 18:44

Keep forgetting to mark the thread !

greenberet · 31/01/2015 18:57

i have just been reading the article i linked to - and have said this is how i feel that i am being punished & destroyed - it is actually scary reading that there are people like this so much so that the characteristics can be identified - i quote

"it's not about acknowledging failure in the marital relationship, separating, and moving on. Rather, it's about punishing, destroying, or making someone else's life miserable for daring to say "no" or declare an end to an abusive situation. Character assassination becomes the norm. The CD will arm their attorneys with examples of their ex's "questionable behavior," which are amplified to such an extent to paint the worst possible picture of the person."

greenberet · 31/01/2015 19:04

this is a review of a book i have just come across - i think we can all see ourselves in this - i am actually scaring myself reading some of these reviews

It explains how your relationship started out like a fairytale: s/he showered you with compliments & praise, lavished gifts on you, called you the best thing that ever happened to them, called you 'soulmate' after just a few weeks. Then things start to go wrong, and you find s/he is insulting you, winding you up, being mean, flirting with their ex on social media. They break up with you, and while you are left heartbroken & confused, they're already in another relationship, and it's being flaunted right in your face (on faceb00k).
"Peace" explains that this was all a set-up, it was all staged, deliberately to ensnare you, make you fall in love, and then dump you. It's a game to the controller, they never did care for you, and they don't care for their other exes or their next partner (victim) either.

You didn't get caught out because you're stupid or because you're a masochist: you got caught because you're a caring kind person who tries to see the best in people. Because you would never treat someone so badly, you fail to recognise or believe it when someone does it to you: you forgive them, you give them another chance, you believe them when they say "it'll never happen again". Later on, when they really start to gaslight & crazymake you, you'll think you're going mad. They will TELL you you're going mad, imagining things, being paranoid, crazy. They will accuse you of being the things they are being: nasty, lying, abusive. They will shout at you and then say they never shouted, YOU were shouting. They will deny saying or doing things that you know darn sure they did, and they will convince you that YOU said or did those things. They are that manipulative & devious & unpleasant.

Hobbitwife001 · 31/01/2015 20:08

Yep, sounds like quite a few other halves on this thread doesn't it Green?
Although not mine actually, he only went downhill when he met bitchface.
Are you ok?
I hope you are getting looked after by your dc's, just rest and recuperate as much as possible, lay on the sofa and give some orders out, it's character making for them!

Hi to everyone, xx

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