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emotional abuse?? How to make final leap to leave if so

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iloverunning36 · 17/09/2014 16:38

I have always been oversensitive, had low self esteem and been a people-pleaser. I tend to put others needs before my own. I have 2 children from my previous relationship and have been quite reluctant to expect my husband to parent them. We met 2.5 years ago, got married 1.5 years ago and (at his suggestion but I was willing) had a baby together 7 months ago. My problem is his verbal outbursts and general disrespectfulness towards me which I feel has got worse since the baby was born. When I try to talk to him he denies things and turns stuff back on me saying I am a “paper bag” and I need to learn to discuss things but he is not approachable frequently getting so frustrated with me that he swears at me within earshot of my children. He then improves for a short time only to revert to normal within a couple of weeks. He also says he feels like he is walking on eggshells as anything will “set me off”
The main outbursts are as follows:
Calling me a “fucking idiot” for making a mistake on my CV (I did post about this and tried to leave but he convinced me I was being silly and it was a one off – I thought maybe I was being harsh)
Calling me a miserable bitch because I was very tired and down after the baby was born (and I thought he would be more hands on)
Asking me where the fuck I had been when I was late home from work one night (this meant that every other time I rushed home to avoid him being like that again)
Going in a mood if I go to the gym or if I am going on a night out with my friends (this has resulted in me only having 2 nights out since I met him one of which he collected me from but I still go out for lunch with my friends without hassle from him so in that respect I haven’t been isolated from them)
Repeatedly telling me to fuck off and calling me a horrible thing because I said I had never seen a man take less interest in his child (I apologised after as it was a harsh thing to say but t the time he was refusing to have anything to do with bathing or putting to bed of our baby as well as rarely giving him bottles or changing his nappy so it felt like he wasn’t interested as he gets very good time off but will spend an entire day before he even picks up the baby)

Money
He insists that I put more into the joint account as I have more to pay for (food, elec and gas for my kids from previous relationship – I pay for clothes, shoes toys etc from my own money) He still complains about me buying school shoes or uniform for them so I try to hide it from him. I am in the process of being made redundant and on the way in the car he told me one of the reasons he was attracted to me was that I was in the same earnings bracket as him and we could have a nice life together. I have had to really argue my case (and only because of what was previously advised here so I have heeded some advice) about putting in less into the joint account because I am on stat pay but this month he has accepted that although he keeps going on about it.

Family
DH doesn’t like my family and in some ways he has good reason as certain of them take advantage and my mum is quite controlling. She was upset when I moved away and has attributed the return of her cancer to my falling out with my sister (she phoned me to tell me this when I was pregnant and my DH reacted to my upset by getting very drunk and telling me that he hoped she dies of cancer and I need to stand up to her – I found this very upsetting as I felt like everyone was against me) Now that my mum is dying I don’t feel I can ask for DH support as he made his feelings clear. He comments if I see them often "that's
weeks in a row you've been to visit your dad" so I feel like I have to hide or justify seeing family.

Sleep
DH as a tendency to get up very early (4 or 5am) which frequently disturbs me and once I am awake he tends to go back to bed and he has a nap most of his days off but will wake me if he feels I am sleeping too long (he once came home from work when I was pregnant at 10am in the morning and woke me up “to make sure I was achieving something” I was really angry as was so tired and it was my one chance for a lie-in as my ex had my 2 children. He said I was overreacting. I have given up trying to get a nap or a lie-in as it just doesn’t happen any more, I feel resentful that he gets so much more sleep than me when he causes me to have less sleep. Also it is always me who gets up with the baby (he has maybe got up with him about 5 times in 7 months)

Sex
When we first met sex was good and frequent. Now it is once a week if that. He has difficulties and eventually admitted to using viagra although he refuses to discuss it. He does impressions of me having sex which make me feel so low and has said that I see it as the only way of showing affection. As a result I no longer really enjoy sex that much.

Housework
DH sometimes hoovers but criticizes my hovering the rest of the time saying I don’t do it properly. He mows the lawn and is very good at DIY tasks around the home, he does them straight away.
DH has not cleaned a toilet or sink since we moved into our house 1.5 years ago (we have a cloakroom, 2 en-suites and a bathroom) Although I said in the first place I didn’t mind doing it I tried to get him to do it when I was heavily pregnant and after my c-sec but he refused on the grounds he only uses the bathrooms 10% of the time. This is despite the fact that he refuses to lift the seat so leaves little dribbles frequently and has IBS so leaves the inside of the toilet messy at least once a day.
I do all the washing/drying/ironing, initially it stemmed from me knowing that most of it was mine and my 2 kids but when I have asked my husband to be involved in doing some of it (after my c-sec and once I go back to work) he protests on the grounds that hardly any of it is his. He doesn’t like me using the tumble dryer and I have even seen him “jokingly” take stuff out of it and throw it on the floor.
As a result I use the tumble drier when he is out and panic when he comes home unexpectedly. I also have a lot less free time than him as I do the majority of the housework with the exception of cooking which he will do when he is here but generally leaves the dishes to me (he has made up the babies bottles once in 7 months and never sterilised anything)

Sorry this is so garbled, I am so confused and don’t know if it is just me being oversensitive. I have tried 3 times to leave, I have packed my bags but he somehow persuaded me every time that I was being silly/I’d regret leaving/I overreact to stuff. Afterwards I was disappointed in myself. I feel like I am 90% on the way to knowing I should leave but what can give me that last shove?? Is this emotional abuse or is it just a clash? He always says "is your life really so terrible?"

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iloverunning36 · 24/11/2014 10:06

Thanks I've read the Lundy book a couple of times now and "living with the dominator". Have texted him today to tell him I don't want to come back, that I just can't get my feelings back for him much as I want to and the damage is done, I don't miss him. No response yet. Cowards way but he won't listen and will try to manipulate me if I do it face to face.

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AnyFucker · 24/11/2014 10:53

Do it whichever way is easier for you

You cannot be reasonable with the unreasonable

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welliesndogs · 24/11/2014 12:20

Sweetheart you need to get out. I talk from experience of the exact same thing and know how bewildered, confused and hurt you can feel, but at the same time always hopeful that something will miraculously change and they will become the person you thought you'd fallen in love with. He won't change. It will get worse and from somewhere you need to find the strength to break free. He will be so sorry and you will be weakened by this, but this is part of the cycle of abusive behaviour. You do need help, support and guidance from people who understand and can give real help. Woman's aid would be an excellent start. talking on here shows strength as you know it's all not right. You deserve so much more, and your children deserve so much more. He is a sick, evil person. Do not allow him to waste anymore of your precious life.

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tipsytrifle · 24/11/2014 12:54

Sending you a dollop of determination and strength today, iloverunning. Lease signing, right? I'm glad you rejected him by text, too! Absolutely no need to be in his presence at all, in fact every reason NOT to be.

Good luck and good signing today!! Update when 'tis done please! Flowers

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iloverunning36 · 24/11/2014 13:18

He is being totally reasonable. I feel fine (just now) thanks all, I think you have collectively saved me many years of confusion and heartache, it's already such a relief not to be blamed for everything being mad/oversensitive/a pushover/thinking too much.

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somewhatavoidant · 24/11/2014 13:44

Good woman iloverunning, you are an amazing, strong woman. Moving in on your own will be really tough. Now is the time to call on your friends and family if you can. It will get easier though and you will be so proud of yourself for putting your kids first. They are probably misbehaving because of all the stress. It will pass. Best of luck, stay strong. Tell him you need a month to yourself & get yourself some space, a week will make a huge difference. Take it one day at a time. Hour by hour if necessary.Thanks

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OydNeverDeclinesGin · 24/11/2014 13:57

Well done you for stating strong.

He is manipulative, controlling and sinister.

He always will be.

My advice at this point would be to exit the counselling ASAP. She's enabling HIS behaviour by minimising YOUR reactions to his emotional abuse.

This could undo the work you've already done and this makes her a dangerous counsellor.

You need a counsellor just for you.


Stay strong today,get your lease signed. It's an important step to recovering yourself.

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We're all rooting for you, you can do it Flowers

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iloverunning36 · 24/11/2014 14:19

Am signing the lease at 7. We've both decided not to go to the counselling any more. He's said he'll give me the same for our baby that he gives his ex for his other child. He says he feels stupid he's done this and will help move etc. also he'll take the baby as much as possible.

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AnyFucker · 24/11/2014 14:22

I wonder if he has learned any lessons from this. At least two destroyed families because of his behaviour. Has he realised what the common denominator is yet ?

Stupid man.

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iloverunning36 · 24/11/2014 16:07

I don't think he is self aware. At least I know what not to raise my 3 sons like.

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iloverunning36 · 26/11/2014 17:37

His devastation hasn't stopped him upgrading his car. Meanwhile mine has something wrong with it so will likely further eat into my redundancy money. Where is the fairness??

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tipsytrifle · 26/11/2014 17:53

oh dear heart ... fairness is a whimsy ... some folk seem to get lashings of it and others, well we just get the lashing! My theme song for this life should be "if it wasn't for all this bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all" ... forget which song it's from and of course it isn't ALL like that .. just some days .. argghh!

Have you signed the lease for freedom?

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iloverunning36 · 26/11/2014 18:42

Yes I have signed the lease. Husband "devastated" (but not enough to stop him car shopping )

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tipsytrifle · 26/11/2014 18:55

I'm relieved you've signed ... spitting feathers at his car shopping but hey, that kind of says it doesn't it? Let the universe deal with him, she's not keen on types like him

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iloverunning36 · 26/11/2014 21:17

Thanks tt, he has lost the most valuable stuff. I get to wake up to beautiful ds every day (and sometimes many times during the night lol )

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somewhatavoidant · 27/11/2014 18:44

So how are things OP? Hope you're ok and staying strongThanks

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iloverunning36 · 27/11/2014 19:07

Thanks, very teary day. Went round house with him and decided who was getting what out of the stuff we bought together. I got very angry as he wanted to keep a TV we bought together which would mean he has 3 TVs and I have none (although the kids have one) he wanted to keep the largest suitcase so he can visit his daughter although in my view the obvious thing would be for me to have it as I have 3 children! Didn't bother arguing about that as am just worn out from arguing. Just when I think I feel better I get another upsetting day :( thanks for asking though. Got a couple of friends coming round tonight to keep me company/help with baby so that will be nice (for me- I tried to warn them that they are not in for a pleasant evening!) car fixed and not as expensive as I thought. He was phoning for car insurance while I was there and his car is worth 20 grand so am doubting his story that it was virtually free from trading in his previous car. Made the point that if he can afford a new car he can afford to be paying maintenance from when I left and giving me back the money I've put towards house since I've been gone and after a fight (but I've chosen to leave and I have redundancy money) he conceded.

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iloverunning36 · 27/11/2014 19:07

Stupidly still wondering if I've done the right thing.

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tipsytrifle · 28/11/2014 19:06

Your heart KNOWS you've done the right thing! It all takes a bit of getting used to, the changes are phenomenally huge. You have done the right thing, now get your new home decorated for a new start Flowers

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tipsytrifle · 28/11/2014 19:09

You've also done the right thing by way of getting him to concede on finances ... though let's see if he follows through, eh? It's Friday, have some Wine and Cake. You are forbidden to feel guilt and other futile emotional tipper-overs!

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iloverunning36 · 28/11/2014 19:14

Yeh the way he has been over finances really shows that he will never change. Happy Friday to you too, thanks WineCake

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Flimflammer · 28/11/2014 22:44

Happy Friday to you running. I hope you and your children have a wonderful Christmas.

I'm afraid the car might be new girlfriend bait. You said twice that you thought he would have a new girlfriend by Xmas and I think you are right,if the unfortunate woman happens to cross his path :( Brace yourself for that nonsense and remember its all textbook stuff.if you are ready for it it won't hurt as much.

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somewhatavoidant · 30/11/2014 22:06

Hope you're ok after the weekend OPThanks

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iloverunning36 · 01/12/2014 09:33

I am good. I had got in touch with his exes sister and she only saw message yesterday but very kindly spoke to me on the phone for 45 minutes and made me realise without a shadow of a doubt that the suicide threat stuff has been done before and he has even said the same things to her sister as he did to me and leaving was the only thing to do as he is so very damaged.

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somewhatavoidant · 02/12/2014 19:10

I'm glad you're ok. As hard as it is, you've done the right thing. A person that damaged will never be able to love you in a healthy way.

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