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emotional abuse?? How to make final leap to leave if so

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iloverunning36 · 17/09/2014 16:38

I have always been oversensitive, had low self esteem and been a people-pleaser. I tend to put others needs before my own. I have 2 children from my previous relationship and have been quite reluctant to expect my husband to parent them. We met 2.5 years ago, got married 1.5 years ago and (at his suggestion but I was willing) had a baby together 7 months ago. My problem is his verbal outbursts and general disrespectfulness towards me which I feel has got worse since the baby was born. When I try to talk to him he denies things and turns stuff back on me saying I am a “paper bag” and I need to learn to discuss things but he is not approachable frequently getting so frustrated with me that he swears at me within earshot of my children. He then improves for a short time only to revert to normal within a couple of weeks. He also says he feels like he is walking on eggshells as anything will “set me off”
The main outbursts are as follows:
Calling me a “fucking idiot” for making a mistake on my CV (I did post about this and tried to leave but he convinced me I was being silly and it was a one off – I thought maybe I was being harsh)
Calling me a miserable bitch because I was very tired and down after the baby was born (and I thought he would be more hands on)
Asking me where the fuck I had been when I was late home from work one night (this meant that every other time I rushed home to avoid him being like that again)
Going in a mood if I go to the gym or if I am going on a night out with my friends (this has resulted in me only having 2 nights out since I met him one of which he collected me from but I still go out for lunch with my friends without hassle from him so in that respect I haven’t been isolated from them)
Repeatedly telling me to fuck off and calling me a horrible thing because I said I had never seen a man take less interest in his child (I apologised after as it was a harsh thing to say but t the time he was refusing to have anything to do with bathing or putting to bed of our baby as well as rarely giving him bottles or changing his nappy so it felt like he wasn’t interested as he gets very good time off but will spend an entire day before he even picks up the baby)

Money
He insists that I put more into the joint account as I have more to pay for (food, elec and gas for my kids from previous relationship – I pay for clothes, shoes toys etc from my own money) He still complains about me buying school shoes or uniform for them so I try to hide it from him. I am in the process of being made redundant and on the way in the car he told me one of the reasons he was attracted to me was that I was in the same earnings bracket as him and we could have a nice life together. I have had to really argue my case (and only because of what was previously advised here so I have heeded some advice) about putting in less into the joint account because I am on stat pay but this month he has accepted that although he keeps going on about it.

Family
DH doesn’t like my family and in some ways he has good reason as certain of them take advantage and my mum is quite controlling. She was upset when I moved away and has attributed the return of her cancer to my falling out with my sister (she phoned me to tell me this when I was pregnant and my DH reacted to my upset by getting very drunk and telling me that he hoped she dies of cancer and I need to stand up to her – I found this very upsetting as I felt like everyone was against me) Now that my mum is dying I don’t feel I can ask for DH support as he made his feelings clear. He comments if I see them often "that's
weeks in a row you've been to visit your dad" so I feel like I have to hide or justify seeing family.

Sleep
DH as a tendency to get up very early (4 or 5am) which frequently disturbs me and once I am awake he tends to go back to bed and he has a nap most of his days off but will wake me if he feels I am sleeping too long (he once came home from work when I was pregnant at 10am in the morning and woke me up “to make sure I was achieving something” I was really angry as was so tired and it was my one chance for a lie-in as my ex had my 2 children. He said I was overreacting. I have given up trying to get a nap or a lie-in as it just doesn’t happen any more, I feel resentful that he gets so much more sleep than me when he causes me to have less sleep. Also it is always me who gets up with the baby (he has maybe got up with him about 5 times in 7 months)

Sex
When we first met sex was good and frequent. Now it is once a week if that. He has difficulties and eventually admitted to using viagra although he refuses to discuss it. He does impressions of me having sex which make me feel so low and has said that I see it as the only way of showing affection. As a result I no longer really enjoy sex that much.

Housework
DH sometimes hoovers but criticizes my hovering the rest of the time saying I don’t do it properly. He mows the lawn and is very good at DIY tasks around the home, he does them straight away.
DH has not cleaned a toilet or sink since we moved into our house 1.5 years ago (we have a cloakroom, 2 en-suites and a bathroom) Although I said in the first place I didn’t mind doing it I tried to get him to do it when I was heavily pregnant and after my c-sec but he refused on the grounds he only uses the bathrooms 10% of the time. This is despite the fact that he refuses to lift the seat so leaves little dribbles frequently and has IBS so leaves the inside of the toilet messy at least once a day.
I do all the washing/drying/ironing, initially it stemmed from me knowing that most of it was mine and my 2 kids but when I have asked my husband to be involved in doing some of it (after my c-sec and once I go back to work) he protests on the grounds that hardly any of it is his. He doesn’t like me using the tumble dryer and I have even seen him “jokingly” take stuff out of it and throw it on the floor.
As a result I use the tumble drier when he is out and panic when he comes home unexpectedly. I also have a lot less free time than him as I do the majority of the housework with the exception of cooking which he will do when he is here but generally leaves the dishes to me (he has made up the babies bottles once in 7 months and never sterilised anything)

Sorry this is so garbled, I am so confused and don’t know if it is just me being oversensitive. I have tried 3 times to leave, I have packed my bags but he somehow persuaded me every time that I was being silly/I’d regret leaving/I overreact to stuff. Afterwards I was disappointed in myself. I feel like I am 90% on the way to knowing I should leave but what can give me that last shove?? Is this emotional abuse or is it just a clash? He always says "is your life really so terrible?"

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billy1966 · 18/06/2023 07:45

I'm sorry things arevso hard.

But you will need to involve the police to have him removed from the house to protect you and your child.

He sounds unhinged.

Ring the police.

Ring Women's aid too for advice and support.

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Interracialbabysmom · 18/06/2023 00:20

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Birdywoo · 23/01/2023 17:52

Day to day life seems pretty ok*

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Birdywoo · 23/01/2023 17:51

I put this thread on watch years ago. It's so nice to log back in and see such a positive update. My relationship isn't like this but we do have issues so I often read threads like this. The only thing I can say is that the only time I feel fully relaxed is when I'm home with the kids and he's not here. Other than that, day to day lift seems pretty. Can't put my finger on why I feel like that.

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PerseverancePays · 14/04/2022 19:39

That is such a great update. The internet can be many negatives and also so many positives. I know I would have been so grateful back in the day for something like Mumsnet to tell me I wasn't unreasonable and I wasn't unhappy because I was so unreasonable. I did leave but it took me ten years.
To read that you are living your best life has made my day, and will do for many days.
Amazing woman, please don't ever doubt yourself again.

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moirarosebabay · 14/04/2022 11:18

Good question as that's something that put me off leaving him if I'm honest as he'd tell me no one else would want me and I was scared of being on my own especially as I knew he'd immediately get with someone else and parade it all over social media. Ive had chances to meet/be involved with someone else but I've got to the stage where I'm so genuinely happy on my own that I don't really see where it would fit. It would have to really add to my life and I still appreciate every day the small things that being away from my abusive relationship allow me to do. Ive built up really good friendships and got really into hiking, running and cold water exposure and have a very full life. I wouldn't have been able to do any of that stuff previously as my life was getting smaller and smaller. Even just simple stuff like eating or going to the bathroom or washing were so fraught with difficulty and getting grief. So in short, I know I could meet someone if I really wanted to but Ive chosen not to do much internet dating and no one I'm attracted enough to has crossed my path in real life. Also from the point of view of not wanting to bring someone into my kids lives. We have a great dynamic and I worried that they would have been damaged from what they witnessed and how we lived but they seem ok.

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Wildflower922 · 14/04/2022 11:01

This is amazing. I'm being so nosy but did you ever meet anyone else? Coming out of a similar situation I feel like I'm scarred for life. I've just downloaded the book x

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billy1966 · 14/04/2022 10:22

Wonderful update.

You can be rightfully proud of yourself and the value you placed on your life and future.
Flowers

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moirarosebabay · 14/04/2022 10:04

I have name changed since then but I am very well thanks. My ex got with another woman and had another baby and she left him during lockdown. I'm not even interested in what happened, just felt a wave of relief that she and her kids (the baby she had with him is her 4th and she has teenage daughters) are safe. I love being at the stage where I don't care what he does any more. He sees our son regularly. Our son is 8 and quite intense, I used to worry he would be controlling and angry as well but he is turning out lovely and caring. When I first posted here I had no idea it was abuse, I always refer people who are wondering about this stuff to Mumsnet along with the Lundy Bancroft book. I cant believe how much happier I am now. I was so broken back then and owe such a debt of gratitude to all the people who helped me. Strangers on the internet were so kind and loving when my husband was abusing me.

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Wildflower922 · 14/04/2022 07:14

@Nicelunch25 I could have written your original post, I have just left a nearly identical situation.

How are you now x

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willowmelangell · 28/10/2020 12:58

What a great update!

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SoulofanAggron · 27/10/2020 21:09

Just seen your update. Yay, well done.

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Eddielzzard · 27/10/2020 21:05

That's amazing! Well done on being able to get rid of him. Thank you for the update.

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FreshFreesias · 27/10/2020 19:43

Thank you for the wonderful update.
It’s great when posters come back as otherwise you never know how things have gone.

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Nicelunch25 · 27/10/2020 19:24

I like doing a positive update. It was a long slow painful journey though, he had brainwashed me so much and I can now understand why people don't leave immediately as it's not bad all the time so hard to accept it is abuse.

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spiritsoppressivelyhigh · 27/10/2020 19:06

@Nicelunch25

Well done you!!! I love a positive update xx

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SoulofanAggron · 27/10/2020 19:00

Yes, hes abusive. Sad Leave and don't let him talk you round again please xxx

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Nicelunch25 · 27/10/2020 17:37

I posted this thread in 2014 and it was 2017 by the time I made the final cut and divorced him although I did move out in 2014. I just wanted to say to anyone who is in this position that the things that helped me were reading the Lundy Bancroft book and posting on Mumsnet. It took me a very long time to fully accept that his behaviour was abusive but once the seed was sown I couldn't unknow what he was. It also took a while to feel fully happy as a single mother. But me and the kids are so happy, properly happy- probably because we've had the experience of living in fear the experience of a happy home is all the sweeter. At the weekend my son came back from his dads and said daddy's girlfriend and her kids (including their one year old baby) have moved into a different house because there was too much fighting. My heart went out to her and It just made me so grateful that when I went through this I had the wisdom and strength from people who have been in this position. I got so much support from people I've never even met.

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positivo · 01/11/2015 22:39

I have just left an EA marriage after 19 years. Please don't put up with this any longer. You are entitled to 50% of everything but that also includes debts. But you will find a way. They always become nicer for a while and it leaves you thinking "what was all the fuss about I'm just being silly/sensitive/hormonal blah... you're none of those things. You won't regret leaving and you'll need every ounce of inner strength to stand your ground. But you can do it. I wish you all the best. Good luck xx

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iloverunning36 · 02/12/2014 20:30

I know. I spoke to his ex today and he said all the same stuff to her. She left after 6 months and he managed to get her to come back "to be a family' and he got worse. At one point he threw his phone at her. She is so much happier now she lives in a different country. He has lied so much. She said she wished she had warned me but to be fair I probably wouldn't have listened, he was very charming and plausible.

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somewhatavoidant · 02/12/2014 19:10

I'm glad you're ok. As hard as it is, you've done the right thing. A person that damaged will never be able to love you in a healthy way.

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iloverunning36 · 01/12/2014 09:33

I am good. I had got in touch with his exes sister and she only saw message yesterday but very kindly spoke to me on the phone for 45 minutes and made me realise without a shadow of a doubt that the suicide threat stuff has been done before and he has even said the same things to her sister as he did to me and leaving was the only thing to do as he is so very damaged.

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somewhatavoidant · 30/11/2014 22:06

Hope you're ok after the weekend OPThanks

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Flimflammer · 28/11/2014 22:44

Happy Friday to you running. I hope you and your children have a wonderful Christmas.

I'm afraid the car might be new girlfriend bait. You said twice that you thought he would have a new girlfriend by Xmas and I think you are right,if the unfortunate woman happens to cross his path :( Brace yourself for that nonsense and remember its all textbook stuff.if you are ready for it it won't hurt as much.

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iloverunning36 · 28/11/2014 19:14

Yeh the way he has been over finances really shows that he will never change. Happy Friday to you too, thanks WineCake

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